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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: If Jack Eichel decides on another year at Boston University, so what?
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Apr 20 @ 1:45 PM ET
When it boils down to it, does it matter too much who starts off their career better? Neither Edmonton or Buffalo are a year away from the finals.

McDavid is the better prospect, although you are right, the power in Eichel ' s skating is 2nd to none really.

People compare him to Getzlaf, he's 5x the skater Getzlaf is

- sbroads24



I am biased because I watch Getzlaf much more than anyone else, and I would prefer to have a guy like him on my team any day of the week.

Just my preference. I wouldn't have hated McDavid, but I am almost relieved with Eichel. Especially with the way the league is going, big bodies that can make things happen... seems to fit Eichel.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 20 @ 1:46 PM ET
Eichel staying in school would cost him millions of dollars in the grand scheme of things:

His entry level deal is 3 years just about a million per. He signs that at 18 when he turns 21 he is making close to $8 million (or more) for the next 7 years. That means when he is 28 he has made $59 million plus (not including endorsements). At 28 is the ending of his peak performing playing days. He signs a 4 year deal making $10 million a season. So now he is at $99 million at age 32. He has maybe 3 years left. Signs a 3 year $12 million per year contract. That is $135 million dollars through his contract. Now lets say he stays in school for one more year. He is 19 and signs his entry level contract. So now he signs his next contract at age 22. $8 million for 7 years. Still at $59 million but now he is 29 instead of 28. Next contract we can still say 4 years at $10 million but remember production starts to decline at age 28. $99 million at age 33. Now he has maybe 2 good years left. Now he will get a 2 year deal probably around $8 million a season now since he is a year old and his production is declining. Now he is at $115 million for his career. That is a $20 million difference by waiting 1 more year. Would you stay in school for 1 more year meaning that's $20 million less you could be making in your career? Is 1 year of school worth $20 million? I don't think so. Not to mention the risk of him being hurt in college and not making any NHL money. So in fact the smart move would be to sign his pro contract.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Apr 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
Eichel staying in school would cost him millions of dollars in the grand scheme of things:

His entry level deal is 3 years just about a million per. He signs that at 18 when he turns 21 he is making close to $8 million (or more) for the next 7 years. That means when he is 28 he has made $59 million plus (not including endorsements). At 28 is the ending of his peak performing playing days. He signs a 4 year deal making $10 million a season. So now he is at $99 million at age 32. He has maybe 3 years left. Signs a 3 year $12 million per year contract. That is $135 million dollars through his contract. Now lets say he stays in school for one more year. He is 19 and signs his entry level contract. So now he signs his next contract at age 22. $8 million for 7 years. Still at $59 million but now he is 29 instead of 28. Next contract we can still say 4 years at $10 million but remember production starts to decline at age 28. $99 million at age 33. Now he has maybe 2 good years left. Now he will get a 2 year deal probably around $8 million a season now since he is a year old and his production is declining. Now he is at $115 million for his career. That is a $20 million difference by waiting 1 more year. Would you stay in school for 1 more year meaning that's $20 million less you could be making in your career? Is 1 year of school worth $20 million? I don't think so. Not to mention the risk of him being hurt in college and not making any NHL money. So in fact the smart move would be to sign his pro contract.

- Stripes77



Murray said, he will ultimately let Jack and his Family decide. He will, however, make the case for him to go. I think the dollar signs will be a big aspect. The charter flights do not go away. The attention grows, and he will always have less of a spotlight than McDavid. He can be the player he wants to be and have less of an expectation in the national scheme of things.
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
I am biased because I watch Getzlaf much more than anyone else, and I would prefer to have a guy like him on my team any day of the week.

Just my preference. I wouldn't have hated McDavid, but I am almost relieved with Eichel. Especially with the way the league is going, big bodies that can make things happen... seems to fit Eichel.

- thatsapickle




You prefer Eichel to McDavid?? Did you feel this way on Saturday morning as well?
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
Murray said, he will ultimately let Jack and his Family decide. He will, however, make the case for him to go. I think the dollar signs will be a big aspect. The charter flights do not go away. The attention grows, and he will always have less of a spotlight than McDavid. He can be the player he wants to be and have less of an expectation in the national scheme of things.
- thatsapickle



How long do the teams have to sign these guys? Is it a year or 2?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
When it boils down to it, does it matter too much who starts off their career better? Neither Edmonton or Buffalo are a year away from the finals.

McDavid is the better prospect, although you are right, the power in Eichel ' s skating is 2nd to none really.

People compare him to Getzlaf, he's 5x the skater Getzlaf is

- sbroads24


At the end of the day, no. But, it could at least help the team get to the playoffs a bit sooner. Or just be a huge improvement over this past year. But overall, it doesn't.

I'm just happy that we're getting one of them. Both are very special players and are going to be a ton of fun to watch for the next decade plus.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET


You prefer Eichel to McDavid?? Did you feel this way on Saturday morning as well?

- imsorry66


We all felt differently about some things on Saturday morning. We all died a little bit inside on Saturday night.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET


You prefer Eichel to McDavid?? Did you feel this way on Saturday morning as well?

- imsorry66


We all felt differently about some things on Saturday morning. We all died a little bit inside on Saturday night.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Apr 20 @ 1:50 PM ET


You prefer Eichel to McDavid?? Did you feel this way on Saturday morning as well?

- imsorry66

its a coping mechanism.. just let him be..

but either way we get a solid player that we shoul dbe able to build around
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Apr 20 @ 1:52 PM ET


You prefer Eichel to McDavid?? Did you feel this way on Saturday morning as well?

- imsorry66



yeah.

It's my preference. I think he's better suited for the league now.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
Maybe they will take Marner. I could also see Arizona trading out of #3.
- Pierceme69



Idk, Marner is a winger
I think they really wanted a #1 center
A top pair defenseman isn't too shabby though

I could seethe Leafs try to switch places with Arizona, but I think the Coyotes want a center too so I'm not sure why they would?
The Leafs would prob have to offer more than they should to get Arizona to do it
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Apr 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
Michael Pachla: If Jack Eichel decides on another year at Boston University, so what?
- Michael Pachla



You shut your whor.....

Nvm.



Nothing any one of us can do about it....
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
yeah.

It's my preference. I think he's better suited for the league now.

- thatsapickle



When you're talking about this kind of skill, the "better suited for" goes out the window. Great is great. And McDavid is simply that. Eichel appears to be too, but there's a reason 30 GMs out of 30 would take McDavid first.

Despite what Murray says, Eichel is a consolation prize, a very good one, but a consolation prize nonetheless.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Apr 20 @ 2:00 PM ET
Idk, Marner is a winger
I think they really wanted a #1 center
A top pair defenseman isn't too shabby though

I could seethe Leafs try to switch places with Arizona, but I think the Coyotes want a center too so I'm not sure why they would?
The Leafs would prob have to offer more than they should to get Arizona to do it

- jdfitz77


If Zona takes Strome, Leafs will be ecstatic to grab Hanifin.
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
yeah.

It's my preference. I think he's better suited for the league now.

- thatsapickle



To each his own but McDavid will be better than Crosby.
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:03 PM ET
When you're talking about this kind of skill, the "better suited for" goes out the window. Great is great. And McDavid is simply that. Eichel appears to be too, but there's a reason 30 GMs out of 30 would take McDavid first.

Despite what Murray says, Eichel is a consolation prize, a very good one, but a consolation prize nonetheless.

- buffalofan19


This^
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Apr 20 @ 2:04 PM ET
yeah.

It's my preference. I think he's better suited for the league now.

- thatsapickle


You should be incredibly happy that you are getting Eichel - guy has "franchise" tag written all over him.
That said, anyone that would pass on McDavid (even for Eichel) is plain out of their mind. McDavid is so ridiculously talented he will be dominating this league in short time. As for your size comment, he's 6ft1" and 190lbs at 18yrs old - very nice size for an elite skilled center.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:07 PM ET
Educate the old guy here... Are there any excellent prospects for the 2016 draft? Just wondering...
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Apr 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
Educate the old guy here... Are there any excellent prospects for the 2016 draft? Just wondering...
- rapperray


The glaring one is Austin Matthews - another "franchise" tag type player. Not McDavid good but definitely considered Eichel good.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 20 @ 2:10 PM ET
Educate the old guy here... Are there any excellent prospects for the 2016 draft? Just wondering...
- rapperray

We shouldn't look that far ahead Ray.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:10 PM ET
Eichel staying in school would cost him millions of dollars in the grand scheme of things:

His entry level deal is 3 years just about a million per. He signs that at 18 when he turns 21 he is making close to $8 million (or more) for the next 7 years. That means when he is 28 he has made $59 million plus (not including endorsements). At 28 is the ending of his peak performing playing days. He signs a 4 year deal making $10 million a season. So now he is at $99 million at age 32. He has maybe 3 years left. Signs a 3 year $12 million per year contract. That is $135 million dollars through his contract. Now lets say he stays in school for one more year. He is 19 and signs his entry level contract. So now he signs his next contract at age 22. $8 million for 7 years. Still at $59 million but now he is 29 instead of 28. Next contract we can still say 4 years at $10 million but remember production starts to decline at age 28. $99 million at age 33. Now he has maybe 2 good years left. Now he will get a 2 year deal probably around $8 million a season now since he is a year old and his production is declining. Now he is at $115 million for his career. That is a $20 million difference by waiting 1 more year. Would you stay in school for 1 more year meaning that's $20 million less you could be making in your career? Is 1 year of school worth $20 million? I don't think so. Not to mention the risk of him being hurt in college and not making any NHL money. So in fact the smart move would be to sign his pro contract.

- Stripes77


This X100.
this is exactly what an agent does which is exactly why they drive $100.000 cars.
At the end, its all about money in the bank. When the counter argument is "Unfinished business winning the NCAA title" I ask how many people on this board, sabres fans or not, would trade that kind of money for a college championship.
Plus, Eichel hasn't been drafted by Buffalo yet, if others are going to play the "who knows what could happen" thing AND he already has a slam-piece waiting for him there if he does....
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:11 PM ET
Educate the old guy here... Are there any excellent prospects for the 2016 draft? Just wondering...
- rapperray



There's a kid from Arizona that is already projected to be #1 next year. Austin Matthews is supposed to be in Eichel territory.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:11 PM ET
We shouldn't look that far ahead Ray.
- cabin



Well Cab... Let's be prepared eh?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
Well Cab... Let's be prepared eh?
- rapperray



What was the question ?
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Apr 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
The glaring one is Austin Matthews - another "franchise" tag type player. Not McDavid good but definitely considered Eichel good.
- Cooshie



And the Sabres have a bushel full of choices in 2016 don't they?
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