dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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There is nothing wrong with that as long as you don't have a team full of them.
Someone needs to score - Stripes77
There is when he's a liability and Kessel is just that. |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Ennis is a fully capable 1st line winger, especially if he's on a line with Kane and Eichel. - Herzeleid
Disagree. At this time a 2nd line winger who can improve to be a 1, but is not there yet. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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There is nothing wrong with that as long as you don't have a team full of them.
Someone needs to score - Stripes77
Not really a Kessel fan, but I agree. Cody Hodgson's play style is acceptable if he can start potting 65 points a season. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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No whats comical is why anyone would want to spend a dime on Kessel.
Let him rot in Toronto.
He's not what this team needs now. Not even close.
The cost far outweighs it all right now. You and I both know the other 1st, prospects, and other picks aren't getting it done. Girgensons will be the start and IMO the conversation ends there.
Maybe in 2 years but at that point he's 30 and we all know what happens to one trick ponies at that age. - dadeadhead
Because there are plenty of teams with the ability to take on a contract like Kessel's? That have the amount of picks and prospects like we do? That have a real need for a top line RWer like we do? It would take something like the late first this year and a lottery protected 1st next year as well as a prospect like Compher and a roster player like Pysyk.
It's a lot maybe more than I would like. Would I do that exact trade? Probably not but if a deal could be worked out I would be all for it. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Not really a Kessel fan, but I agree. Cody Hodgson's play style is acceptable if he can start potting 65 points a season. - TheSabresTaco
Again I am not just saying we need Phil Kessel but I would take a player like him in a heartbeat.
It turns the PP around especially with a true center.
I want to add talent to the roster. Phil and all his fatness is a talented hockey player that happens to player in a market where he gets torn apart every game playing for the most dysfunctional franchise in the league.
Having him as RW #1 and Ennis as RW #2 is much better than Ennis as RW #1 and Gionta as RW #2 |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Not really a Kessel fan, but I agree. Cody Hodgson's play style is acceptable if he can start potting 65 points a season. - TheSabresTaco
You know that thing about your aunt being your uncle if only ... , right? |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Ennis is a fully capable 1st line winger, especially if he's on a line with Kane and Eichel. - Herzeleid
Maybe. But I would rather have Ennis on the 2nd line |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Because there are plenty of teams with the ability to take on a contract like Kessel's? That have the amount of picks and prospects like we do? That have a real need for a top line RWer like we do? It would take something like the late first this year and a lottery protected 1st next year as well as a prospect like Compher and a roster player like Pysyk.
It's a lot maybe more than I would like. Would I do that exact trade? Probably not but if a deal could be worked out I would be all for it. - Stripes77
And...and....and
That doesn't even get the ball rolling.
ROR and their 2015 1st for Kessel and 2015 2nd add things as needed.
IMO this is in the ballpark asto what Toronto wants. Kessel is signed where ROR isn't. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Not really a Kessel fan, but I agree. Cody Hodgson's play style is acceptable if he can start potting 65 points a season. - TheSabresTaco
A buyout is more likely. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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And...and....and
That doesn't even get the ball rolling.
ROR and their 2015 1st for Kessel and 2015 2nd add things as needed.
IMO this is in the ballpark asto what Toronto wants. Kessel is signed where ROR isn't. - dadeadhead
Toronto is going to "tank" next year especially since missing out on McDavid. I see them doing a proper tear down like the Sabres began 3 seasons ago. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Toronto is going to "tank" next year especially since missing out on McDavid. I see them doing a proper tear down like the Sabres began 3 seasons ago. - Stripes77
They can't move Kessel for less.
What they get for him has to equal or better what they gave up.
If they can get ROR and their 1st it helps the rebuild in a big way. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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They can't move Kessel for less.
What they get for him has to equal or better what they gave up.
If they can get ROR and their 1st it helps the rebuild in a big way. - dadeadhead
You think Murray is going to lose out on ROR if he is moved ? |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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They can't move Kessel for less.
What they get for him has to equal or better what they gave up.
If they can get ROR and their 1st it helps the rebuild in a big way. - dadeadhead
I don't see ROR getting moved personally but when there's smoke there usually is fire |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Again I am not just saying we need Phil Kessel but I would take a player like him in a heartbeat.
It turns the PP around especially with a true center.
I want to add talent to the roster. Phil and all his fatness is a talented hockey player that happens to player in a market where he gets torn apart every game playing for the most dysfunctional franchise in the league.
Having him as RW #1 and Ennis as RW #2 is much better than Ennis as RW #1 and Gionta as RW #2 - Stripes77
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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They can't move Kessel for less.
What they get for him has to equal or better what they gave up.
If they can get ROR and their 1st it helps the rebuild in a big way. - dadeadhead
They may have no choice. I don't see Toronto getting 2 first round picks, especially one being a top 5 one.
a first, a prospect and a roster player. Your standard hockey player trade. Similar to what Bobby Ryan got. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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You think Murray is going to pass on ROR if he is moved ? - SABRES 89
yes |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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They may have no choice. I don't see Toronto getting 2 first round picks, especially one being a top 5 one.
a first, a prospect and a roster player. Your standard hockey player trade. Similar to what Bobby Ryan got. - ImThatGuy
Bobby Ryan is making Thomas Vanek money. Wow. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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You think Murray is going to lose out on ROR if he is moved ? - SABRES 89
I think he should to be honest. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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yes - TheSabresTaco
Think again |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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I think he should to be honest. - dadeadhead
Agreed but I also don't think he is going to be moved |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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I think he should to be honest. - dadeadhead
I still say Ted Black will inquire about Malkin, bad contract if you ask me. |
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RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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Bobby Ryan is making Thomas Vanek money. Wow. - TheSabresTaco
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RynoBull
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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I still say Ted Black will inquire about Malkin, bad contract if you ask me. - SABRES 89
id rather have Malkin than Kessel |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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id rather have Malkin than Kessel - RynoBull
Kessel looks like a fat pig. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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id rather have Malkin than Kessel - RynoBull
My only worry about Malkin is his health |
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