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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:47 PM ET
My only worry about Malkin is his health
- Stripes77


Its going to cost you a S*** ton more to get Malkin as well.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:48 PM ET
Its going to cost you a S*** ton more to get Malkin as well.
- ImThatGuy


Yeah like taking 9 mill of the pens salary cap
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 3:59 PM ET
Yeah like taking 9 mill of the pens salary cap
- RynoBull


And giving up a helluva lot more than it would take to get Kessel
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 4:04 PM ET
And giving up a helluva lot more than it would take to get Kessel
- Stripes77

Malkin is ALOT better than Kessel though.

Only issue is that trade starts and ends with Reinhart ++
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:06 PM ET

- RynoBull



Ludomaniac.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
Malkin is ALOT better than Kessel though.

Only issue is that trade starts and ends with Reinhart ++

- sbroads24


Oh I agree but Malkin hasn't played any where near a full NHL season since 2011-2012, is a year older than Kessel, and he plays a position of strength for the Sabres (something the Sabres haven't had in forever).
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:34 PM ET
I would take Backes or Oshie in a hot second.
- ImThatGuy

Oshie is hot garbage.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:39 PM ET
Oshie is hot garbage.
- Pierceme69


55 points is now Hot garbage?


that also means
Corey perry is hot garbage
Patrice Bergeron is hot garbage
Matt Duchene is hot Garbage
Jason Pomminville is hot garbage
Bobby Ryan is hot garbage
Eric Staal is hot garbage
Brandon Saad is hot garbage
Marty St Louis is hot garbage
Thomas Vanek is hot garbage
Kyle Okposo is hot garbage



just to name a few.....


Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:43 PM ET
55 points is now Hot garbage?


that also means
Corey perry is hot garbage
Patrice Bergeron is hot garbage
Matt Duchene is hot Garbage
Jason Pomminville is hot garbage
Bobby Ryan is hot garbage
Eric Staal is hot garbage
Brandon Saad is hot garbage
Marty St Louis is hot garbage
Thomas Vanek is hot garbage
Kyle Okposo is hot garbage



just to name a few.....

- ImThatGuy

What did he do in the playoffs? Career playoffs stats: 30 GP, 5 goals and 4 assists for 9 points, and a -12. AKA hot garbage. Don't want him AT ALL.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:44 PM ET
What did he do in the playoffs? Career playoffs stats: 30 GP, 5 goals and 4 assists for 9 points, and a -12. AKA hot garbage. Don't want him AT ALL.
- Pierceme69


So he was on a team that made the playoffs...

Wish Buffalo could make those...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 4:45 PM ET
What did he do in the playoffs? Career playoffs stats: 30 GP, 5 goals and 4 assists for 9 points, and a -12. AKA hot garbage. Don't want him AT ALL.
- Pierceme69


Lets get to the playoffs before we start complaining of playoff production from players.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:46 PM ET
Lets get to the playoffs before we start complaining of playoff production from players.
- Stripes77

When we get to the playoffs I don't want under-performing 'stars' on the team.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 4:47 PM ET
When we get to the playoffs I don't want under-performing 'stars' on the team.
- Pierceme69


So Matt Duchene and his zero goals in the playoffs is garbage?

Come on now
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:49 PM ET
So Matt Duchene and his zero goals in the playoffs is garbage?

Come on now

- Stripes77

Matt Duchene has 6 points in 8 games. That projects out to 23 points in 30 games. Oshie has 9. You can paint a picture however you want.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
Matt Duchene has 6 points in 8 games. That projects out to 23 points in 30 games. Oshie has 9. You can paint a picture however you want.
- Pierceme69


Josh Bailey has 5 in 7 games, also "projects to 23 in 30" we should go and get him.

Mind you most Islanders fans most think he is "hot garbage"
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
And giving up a helluva lot more than it would take to get Kessel
- Stripes77

I know this isn't nearly the most important thing, but Kessel is just such an unlikeable douchenozzle I'd cringe having him on this team. Plus, we already have our douchebag in Kane, thank you very much.

What is more important is he's a petulant 1-trick pony of a player who has openly told his coaches he refuses to play their system. Really not the kind of guy I want to put stock in building around. And at his salary we would be building around him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 4:57 PM ET
I know this isn't nearly the most important thing, but Kessel is just such an unlikeable douchenozzle I'd cringe having him on this team. Plus, we already have our douchebag in Kane, thank you very much.

What is more important is he's a petulant 1-trick pony of a player who has openly told his coaches he refuses to play their system. Really not the kind of guy I want to put stock in building around. And at his salary we would be building around him.

- nfph



Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
Josh Bailey has 5 in 7 games, also "projects to 23 in 30" we should go and get him.

Mind you not all Islanders fans most think he is "hot garbage"

- ImThatGuy

No one thinks Josh Bailey is a great player. People think Oshie is. The playoffs are when good players get exposed as either great players or just ok. Oshie is just ok. I don't want him.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
Matt Duchene has 6 points in 8 games. You can paint a picture however you want.
- Pierceme69


Right just like saying Oshie is garbage because of an entire team underperforming in the playoffs
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Right just like saying Oshie is garbage because of an entire team underperforming in the playoffs
- Stripes77

So the entire team under-performs every season in the playoffs. He is a part of the team. So by your own account, Oshie under-performs in the playoffs. And you want him, why?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 5:05 PM ET
So the entire team under-performs every season in the playoffs. He is a part of the team. So by your own account, Oshie under-performs in the playoffs. And you want him, why?
- Pierceme69



Because he's dreamy............



I want no part of him.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:07 PM ET
I know this isn't nearly the most important thing, but Kessel is just such an unlikeable douchenozzle I'd cringe having him on this team. Plus, we already have our douchebag in Kane, thank you very much.

What is more important is he's a petulant 1-trick pony of a player who has openly told his coaches he refuses to play their system. Really not the kind of guy I want to put stock in building around. And at his salary we would be building around him.

- nfph


For one good coaches build their systems around the players and not the other way around.

Nothing the Leafs have done is right so there's that.

As I have said before that 1 trick pony is a ppg player. His salary is $2 million dollars less than the other ppg wingers in the NHL. With the cap space they have and the salary cap going to rise by the time Reinhart, Eichel etc are due for their raise it wouldn't matter as much.

Having a one trick pony isn't the worst thing as long as you only have one and he does that one trick really freaking well. Besides that he has speed something they will need to play with Eichel.

I understand the pros and cons of him but to just dismiss him because he plays for Toronto and you don't want to help them or because he is pudgy is kinda dumb if you ask me.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:08 PM ET
So the entire team under-performs every season in the playoffs. He is a part of the team. So by your own account, Oshie under-performs in the playoffs. And you want him, why?
- Pierceme69


He wouldn't be my first target but you don't want him just because he hasn't performed well in the playoffs? Kinda silly
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:09 PM ET
Because he's dreamy............



I want no part of him.

- dadeadhead


I'd take him but he isn't any of my top choices
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 5:11 PM ET
For one good coaches build their systems around the players and not the other way around.

Nothing the Leafs have done is right so there's that.

As I have said before that 1 trick pony has been at times a ppg player. His salary is $2 million dollars less than the other ppg wingers in the NHL. With the cap space they have and the salary cap going to rise by the time Reinhart, Eichel etc are due for their raise it wouldn't matter as much.

Having a one trick pony isn't the worst thing as long as you only have one and he does that one trick really freaking well. Besides that he has speed something they will need to play with Eichel.

I understand the pros and cons of him but to just dismiss him because he plays for Toronto and you don't want to help them or because he is pudgy is kinda dumb if you ask me.

- Stripes77



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