I think Zack Werenski suits the Sharks. Especially if Mueller doesn't significantly progress and Burns moves to forward (where he belongs).
- DJD209

Burns isn't a god dam forward he wasn't that good when he did play forward..........don't worry flamer we're perfectly fine with Burns on the blueline.......he's one of the top offensive blueliners in hockey so take your derp talk somewhere else.

Burns makes the all star team because he gets points, not because he's a good defenseman.
He belongs at forward.
- flipneil

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Bernier is a better than league average goaltender, everyone just wants to hold the Maple Leafs against him.
- Tim Chiasson

I'd like a bigger goalie than Bernier we've already got Stalock at 6"0ft, we don't need two 6"0ft goalies.

I'd like us to see if we could pry Jon Gillies away from the flamers since they drafted McDonald last year.

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- SJSharks39

Making up for lost time?

Making up for lost time?
- Tim Chiasson

I had too..........some people are just derp talkers.

So trading Bernier, leaves the Leafs with Reimer as their #1.?? The UFA goalie market is a weak one also.
Personally, I'd rather have the 9th overall selection in the draft most years. This year is a different beast.
Maybe they can get a goalie in return for Kessel, Phaneuf or whoever they trade. They would need something in place, IMO, before trading Bernier. Or tanknation is back for another year.

I am against trading the 1st this year because it is a buyers market for goalies this summer and if either Provorov or Werenski are still on board, they will be worth it. We are talking surefire#1 defensemen in a few years there. At worst, I see Werenski as Keith Yandle. Provorov and Hanifin have "Ray Bourque" type written all over them.

No forwards outside the top 5 on my radar when compared to those two.

Trading a 1st rounder for a goalie this summer would be beyond wasteful. Goalies just do not command that kind of return these days. Even good goalies generally go for a 2nd.

A 2nd and B level prospect for Bernier at best.

It is a buyers market for goalies this offseason. Some may even retain salary. That will nerf Bernier's price due to supply and demand.

Chicago may want to unload Crawford, NMC aside(but I do not want him) or even Raanta.

The wild are going to have to buy out Backstrom to keep Dubnyk and then probably want to lose Kuemper. Dubnyk himself is going to get a nice raise.(Dubnyk would be the only one i want)

The wings have to get rid of Howard if they keep going with Mrazek.(No interest in Niemi 2.0)

Tampa might not be happy with Bishop's contract when time comes to extend some of their young players. Especially since they have Vasilievski.(Huge interest)

Toronto has Bernier calling them a junior team. Reimer can't be too happy either. I'd want Bernier.

Vancouver has Miller and Lack(Neither interest me)

Neither Blues goalie interests me.

Anderson from Ottawa since they have 3 goalies. interests me since it is a reasonable 4.2 million for 2 more years. Lehner is also interesting because he is a big acrobatic 6'5 goalie, 23 and signed cheap.

Via Kurz on Sharks goalie targets.....

Kevin Kurz, responding to a reader’s e-mail, believes the San Jose Sharks will target a goaltender in his mid-to-late twenties who can be with the team for a few years. Options could include “Scott Darling or Antti Raanta (Chicago); Jonathan Bernier (Toronto); Dustin Tokarski (Montreal); Cam Talbot (New York Rangers); Robin Lehner (Ottawa); Nicklas Svedberg (Boston) and Michal Neuvirth (New York Islanders, and a pending unrestricted free agent).” Kurz doesn’t expect the Sharks will have interest in Chicago’s Corey Crawford or Detroit’s Jimmy Howard, as they’re carrying lengthy and expensive contracts plus they’re both over 30. He also speculates the Sharks could be interested in even younger prospects like “like Philipp Grubauer in Washington, Malcolm Subban in Boston, or Andrey Vasilevskiy or Kristers Gudlevskis from Tampa Bay.”

Via Kurz on Sharks goalie targets.....

Kevin Kurz, responding to a reader’s e-mail, believes the San Jose Sharks will target a goaltender in his mid-to-late twenties who can be with the team for a few years. Options could include “Scott Darling or Antti Raanta (Chicago); Jonathan Bernier (Toronto); Dustin Tokarski (Montreal); Cam Talbot (New York Rangers); Robin Lehner (Ottawa); Nicklas Svedberg (Boston) and Michal Neuvirth (New York Islanders, and a pending unrestricted free agent).” Kurz doesn’t expect the Sharks will have interest in Chicago’s Corey Crawford or Detroit’s Jimmy Howard, as they’re carrying lengthy and expensive contracts plus they’re both over 30. He also speculates the Sharks could be interested in even younger prospects like “like Philipp Grubauer in Washington, Malcolm Subban in Boston, or Andrey Vasilevskiy or Kristers Gudlevskis from Tampa Bay.”
- SJSharks39

No with a capital N to the bolded. Vasilevskiy would be a DREAM for me. I watch a lot of Bolts games on the east coast, and this guy has been great at every level of hockey he has played at. Bishop thus far has had a great playoff.

The problem is, Tampa is deep all over. Great depth on forward, defense and in goal. I don't see them parting ways with him.

My bann is finally over......

Would've been on earlier but i got called in to work for a few hrs.
- SJSharks39

No with a capital N to the bolded. Vasilevskiy would be a DREAM for me. I watch a lot of Bolts games on the east coast, and this guy has been great at every level of hockey he has played at. Bishop thus far has had a great playoff.

The problem is, Tampa is deep all over. Great depth on forward, defense and in goal. I don't see them parting ways with him.
- j0e Th0rnton

They'll have some tough decisions in a couple years can't pay everybody.

They'll have some tough decisions in a couple years can't pay everybody.
- SJSharks39

Agreed. This year and the Stamkos contract will be interesting.
Johnson is the best player on the team and we got 2 years to see if him and Palat get big raises. Kucherov definitely gets a big raise in 1 year. Hedman has a few more years before a big raise too.

The Carle contract is an albatross they need to dump. Coburn is gone next year.

Drouin has been underused and will likely replace Morrow. Killorn is kinda stuck in Wingels territory

A guy I am really starting to respect is big man Sustr. Safe stay at home guy, good first pass and makes the right decisions with the puck and uses his size and reach effectively.

They have what I call "good problems" in a few year. Crap! We have too many good players, gotta trade some for picks.

Nothing like the terribad problems Chicago has this offseason yet, unless Stamkos wants a max contract.

- BeastModeS62

Yep the authorities finally got me.

Agreed. This year and the Stamkos contract will be interesting.
Johnson is the best player on the team and we got 2 years to see if him and Palat get big raises. Kucherov definitely gets a big raise in 1 year. Hedman has a few more years before a big raise too.

The Carle contract is an albatross they need to dump. Coburn is gone next year.

Drouin has been underused and will likely replace Morrow. Killorn is kinda stuck in Wingels territory

A guy I am really starting to respect is big man Sustr. Safe stay at home guy, good first pass and makes the right decisions with the puck and uses his size and reach effectively.

They have what I call "good problems" in a few year. Crap! We have too many good players, gotta trade some for picks.

Nothing like the terribad problems Chicago has this offseason yet, unless Stamkos wants a max contract.
- j0e Th0rnton

Oh you best believe Stamkos is going to get paid, he gave the bolts a break with his current contract. He's going to get 10 to 12mil per for sure.

Oh you best believe Stamkos is going to get paid, he gave the bolts a break with his current contract. He's going to get 10 to 12mil per for sure.
- SJSharks39

Probably. Would be nice if he took the Thornton route and thought of the team first and took drastic hometeam discounts. Thornton was making Drury/Gomez money during his Hart candidacy years just to make it possible to keep teammates and constantly signing 3 years instead of the typical 5-6.

Florida is one of the BEST places to play in the NHL due to tax breaks. in comparison to San Jose anyways. It equals MILLIONS of dollars in savings for him just to play there.

A 10 million dollar contract in Florida will = walk away pay of around 6 million.
A 10 million dollar contract in San Jose will = Walk away pay of 4.7 Million.

Or something to that effect. Someone did a good write up on it the other day

Probably. Would be nice if he took the Thornton route and thought of the team first and took drastic hometeam discounts. Thornton was making Drury/Gomez money during his Hart candidacy years just to make it possible to keep teammates and constantly signing 3 years instead of the typical 5-6.

Florida is one of the BEST places to play in the NHL due to tax breaks. in comparison to San Jose anyways. It equals MILLIONS of dollars in savings for him just to play there.

A 10 million dollar contract in Florida will = walk away pay of around 6 million.
A 10 million dollar contract in San Jose will = Walk away pay of 4.7 Million.

Or something to that effect. Someone did a good write up on it the other day
- j0e Th0rnton

When Jumbo was in his prime he made alot he was one of the top earners ......what was it 7 to 7.5 mil cap hit? Point being there wasn't no 10+mil cap hit players back when he was in his prime but that's all changing now we're going to keep seeing more & more big contracts like that for teams top scorers. Contracts will always keep increasing.

I think Zack Werenski suits the Sharks. Especially if Mueller doesn't significantly progress and Burns moves to forward (where he belongs).
- DJD209

Burns makes the all star team because he gets points, not because he's a good defenseman.
He belongs at forward.
- flipneil

You two would be what we like to call...wrong. However, because I'm interested...what makes you think that Burns should actually be a forward instead of playing defense? All the facts I can see point to him playing D.

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- SJSharks39

Welcome back.

Welcome back.
- IDtheJC

Good to back, the enforcer has returned.

When Jumbo was in his prime he made alot he was one of the top earners ......what was it 7 to 7.5 mil cap hit? Point being there wasn't no 10+mil cap hit players back when he was in his prime but that's all changing now we're going to keep seeing more & more big contracts like that for teams top scorers. Contracts will always keep increasing.
- SJSharks39

In 2008-09 when Thornton signed a 3 year extension, he signed for 7.2. 2 years removed from his Hart Trophy win, and with 2 more years in a row top 5 for the Hart. He scored 96 points when the next highest sharks scorer had 55 points.
In the offseason, contracts like Ovechkin and Malkin's 9 million and Crosby's 8.7 million were raising the bar for top players. Lecavalier signed long term for nearly 8. While second raters like Drury and Gomez were getting 7 to 7.5 million dollar contracts on the market. Inflation and long term contracts were everywhere.

Thornton would have been well within his rights to demand 8+ million given his performance and constant Hart candidacy at the time or at least demand a long term commitment.

But for the team, he took a discount and did not force them to commit a crazy long term deal like others were forcing. All he wanted was a 100% no movement clause. He was never getting forced into leaving right after he bought a home again. He is a loyal guy. Always has been. And deserves loyalty in return.

In 2008-09 when Thornton signed a 3 year extension, he signed for 7.2. 2 years removed from his Hart Trophy win, and with 2 more years in a row top 5 for the Hart. He scored 96 points when the next highest sharks scorer had 55 points.
In the offseason, contracts like Ovechkin and Malkin's 9 million and Crosby's 8.7 million were raising the bar for top players. Lecavalier signed long term for nearly 8. While second raters like Drury and Gomez were getting 7 to 7.5 million dollar contracts on the market. Inflation and long term contracts were everywhere.

Thornton would have been well within his rights to demand 8+ million given his performance and constant Hart candidacy at the time or at least demand a long term commitment.

But for the team, he took a discount and did not force them to commit a crazy long term deal like others were forcing. All he wanted was a 100% no movement clause. He was never getting forced into leaving right after he bought a home again. He is a loyal guy. Always has been. And deserves loyalty in return.
- j0e Th0rnton

He's also a red ass. Can't forget that.

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- SJSharks39

Very classy.

I'm a northern Ontario boy that actually sees games inside an arena multiple times a week, played hockey for over 20 years and have a family member with jersey retired in an NHL arena.
So wow, you showed me.

Very classy.

I'm a northern Ontario boy that actually sees games inside an arena multiple times a week, played hockey for over 20 years and have a family member with jersey retired in an NHL arena.
So wow, you showed me.
- flipneil

I did show you, but you obviously didn't listen.........,so again (frank) off with your Burns should be a forward talk.

So if it's true & Canes are willing to trade down.....9th overall, Nieto, & a 3rd in 2016 or 4th 2015?

Too much?

Not enough?

Take Semin's contract if they throw in 5th in 2015?

Or keep everything, hope for the best @ #9?

Whatever a draftsite.com is , has Provorov lasting to #10, although we'd all like to think the Sharks would take him if he makes it to #9.

What say you, fin-faithful?

Yep the authorities finally got me.
- SJSharks39

Ya caught me! Ya caught the Tater.

So if it's true & Canes are willing to trade down.....9th overall, Nieto, & a 3rd in 2016 or 4th 2015?

Too much?

Not enough?

Take Semin's contract if they throw in 5th in 2015?

Or keep everything, hope for the best @ #9?

Whatever a draftsite.com is , has Provorov lasting to #10, although we'd all like to think the Sharks would take him if he makes it to #9.

What say you, fin-faithful?


- Sharx1

I think Provorov will be the 2nd defenseman off the boards. So teams that need defense will take Hanifin then Provorov then Werenski. Does that mean we'll see any of them at 9th? Nope, however, if 3 defensemen go in the top 8 after McEichel we should be able to get a really quality forward if we don't trade back.