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Red Wings top prospect Mantha “very disappointing” says Detroit senior VP Devellano
- GilPerreault11

Grigorenko for Mantha?
Larsson?

I get that Mantha isn't having a good playoffs, but considering he was coming off a broken leg, 15 goals in a shortened ROOKIE AHL season is nothing to be disappointed about.
I'd trade for Mantha in a freaking heartbeat
Instead of throwing a 2nd at the Hawks for Sharp, I'd even include it in this deal to get him
There's the top6 winger we are looking for!

Ennis isn't exactly a veteran. I want Eichel learning from a truly seasoned vet. Nothing against Ennis I just want someone with skill who has won a cup or 2 and knows how to handle the daily grind of the NHL.
- Stripes77

What exactly can Sharp teach him that Gionta can't?
Plus,
We don't know Sharp would even want to be here
I think that's a point that at the least needs to be considered

The St. Louis Blues are concentrating on re-signing Vladimir Tarasenko.
"We are not going to be active in signing other players until we get him taken care of," Blues GM Doug Armstrong said. "If it means allowing players to go to free agency, if it means making players sweat it out on what their deal's going to be, he's the priority for us." Tarasenko had 37 goals and 73 points in 77 games in 2014-15, so he's in line for a big payday. That being said, he's a restricted free agent coming off of his entry-level contract, so Armstrong is in a fairly strong negotiating position. He's already stated that he'll match any offer sheet if it comes to that.
- SABRES 89

So why do "we give a poop about Tarasenko when the Sabres have their own problems to worry about?"

Grigorenko for Mantha?
Larsson?

I get that Mantha isn't having a good playoffs, but considering he was coming off a broken leg, 15 goals in a shortened ROOKIE AHL season is nothing to be disappointed about.
I'd trade for Mantha in a freaking heartbeat
Instead of throwing a 2nd at the Hawks for Sharp, I'd even include it in this deal to get him
There's the top6 winger we are looking for!
- jdfitz77

So lets add even more youth to the top 6. That's 5 outta 6 25 and under with 2 rookies

That's an average age of 22.8 including Moulson and his 31 years of age...

What exactly can Sharp teach him that Gionta can't?
Plus,
We don't know Sharp would even want to be here
I think that's a point that at the least needs to be considered
- jdfitz77

Gionta is not a top 6 forward this late in his career.

Sharp still is.

Sharp has a NMC I believe (I miss capgeek) he would have to waive to come here so he would have to be on board.

Grigorenko for Mantha?
Larsson?

I get that Mantha isn't having a good playoffs, but considering he was coming off a broken leg, 15 goals in a shortened ROOKIE AHL season is nothing to be disappointed about.
I'd trade for Mantha in a freaking heartbeat
Instead of throwing a 2nd at the Hawks for Sharp, I'd even include it in this deal to get him
There's the top6 winger we are looking for!
- jdfitz77

Even though Dellvanno ripped him a new one in public he was their #1 prospect this year and they weren't willing to deal him for almost anything this year so it will probably take more than that and a leap of faith.

So lets add even more youth to the top 6. That's 5 outta 6 25 and under with 2 rookies

That's an average age of 22.8 including Moulson and his 31 years of age...
- Stripes77

1st...
Mantha wouldn't be in our top6 THIS yet
2nd...
I think you're too focussed on AGE
I'm MUCH more concerned with adding TALENT

I don't see the point in adding Sharp
He'll be 34 next season
We will not make the playoffs
He'll be 35 the following season when we MIGHT make the playoffs
Will we choose to re-sign a guy that'll be 36yrs old?
I doubt it
So why bother with him or the next 2 years?
There's nothing Sharp can teach him that Gionta can't

Gionta is not a top 6 forward this late in his career.

Sharp still is.

Sharp has a NMC I believe (I miss capgeek) he would have to waive to come here so he would have to be on board.
- Stripes77

Why does Gionta have to be a top6 forward to teach Eichel how to be a pro?
They don't have to play on the same line
And even though Sharp looks good this playoffs, he's been mediocre this season overall. Most would say he's borderline top6 at this point

Ehrhoff was initially ok to come here too
And that ended badly

Even though Dellvanno ripped him a new one in public he was their #1 prospect this year and they weren't willing to deal him for almost anything this year so it will probably take more than that and a leap of faith.
- GilPerreault11

Yea I don't think they are moving him. Public shaming hurts trade value. They are trying to light a fire under him.

I remember getting laughed at for suggesting he had effort issues by Wing fans. It was one of the reasons he fell to 20

Why does Gionta have to be a top6 forward to teach Eichel how to be a pro?
They don't have to play on the same line
And even though Sharp looks good this playoffs, he's been mediocre this season overall. Most would say he's borderline top6 at this point

Ehrhoff was initially ok to come here too
And that ended badly
- jdfitz77

So then you aren't protecting your franchise center without having a veteran play with him. Crosby had veterans on his wing when he started his career so did Toews, Stamkos did, etc.

It's about not letting another team just worry about shutting him down. You basically shelter him on his own line.

He absolutely has to match
But if someone signs him to a 10mil per year deal, it could make things VERY difficult for StL
- jdfitz77

Nobody is going to sign him to an offer sheet. All any team accomplishes by doing that is doing St. Louis' work for them.

1st...
Mantha wouldn't be in our top6 THIS yet
2nd...
I think you're too focussed on AGE
I'm MUCH more concerned with adding TALENT

I don't see the point in adding Sharp
He'll be 34 next season
We will not make the playoffs
He'll be 35 the following season when we MIGHT make the playoffs
Will we choose to re-sign a guy that'll be 36yrs old?
I doubt it
So why bother with him or the next 2 years?
There's nothing Sharp can teach him that Gionta can't
- jdfitz77

This, completely

1) Get talent. Everything else will figure itself out.
2) You can find veteran leaders anywhere. We have one in Gionta and he is ideal in that he is doing his job now and he is only on the books for two more years.

So why do "we give a poop about Tarasenko when the Sabres have their own problems to worry about?"
- GilPerreault11

That post is for JR, I can care less about the Blues and what they do.

This, completely

1) Get talent. Everything else will figure itself out.
2) You can find veteran leaders anywhere. We have one in Gionta and he is ideal in that he is doing his job now and he is only on the books for two more years.
- Slump Buster

I don't value veterans as heavily as some do, but I don't think you can find them anywhere, at least not good ones.

I don't know why people are acting like Sharp is washed up, he's a year removed from a 70 point season.

I think the constant rumors of him being a serial home wrecker affected his year. I would rather trade a 2nd rounder for him, than trade Grigorenko or Pysyk and a 1st for O'Reilly

This, completely

1) Get talent. Everything else will figure itself out.
2) You can find veteran leaders anywhere. We have one in Gionta and he is ideal in that he is doing his job now and he is only on the books for two more years.
- Slump Buster

The point, though, is that Sharp gets you both. He's signed for two more years. If he declines, you walk away. This team has the cash and the cap space to do whatever it wants over the next couple of years. Trading for Sharp doesn't hurt them in the least, assuming the price isn't ridiculous.

The point, though, is that Sharp gets you both. He's signed for two more years. If he declines, you walk away. This team has the cash and the cap space to do whatever it wants over the next couple of years. Trading for Sharp doesn't hurt them in the least, assuming the price isn't ridiculous.
- buffalofan19

I would rather trade for Sharp than sign another Moulson for 5 years

I don't value veterans as heavily as some do, but I don't think you can find them anywhere, at least not good ones.

I don't know why people are acting like Sharp is washed up, he's a year removed from a 70 point season.

I think the constant rumors of him being a serial home wrecker affected his year. I would rather trade a 2nd rounder for him, than trade Grigorenko or Pysyk and a 1st for O'Reilly
- sbroads24

Just look at last offseason- we got two very well-respected veterans to sign with us and other to waive his NTC. These guys are everywhere. I am sure we could have gotten Ott back if we wanted him (thankfully we didn't). I like Sharp just fine but no point in giving up a high pick or more to get him for a year or two.

- grand-magus

Agreed

I would rather trade for Sharp than sign another Moulson for 5 years
- sbroads24

I'd rather do nothing than sign another Moulson for 5 years.

Agreed
- sbroads24

Looks good on the kid

I would rather trade for Sharp than sign another Moulson for 5 years
- sbroads24

Moulson was actually a pretty good signing. He will be a 2nd line winger in the near future before settling into a 3rd line role at the end of his career. He is a classic complimentary player.

Just look at last offseason- we got two very well-respected veterans to sign with us and other to waive his NTC. These guys are everywhere. I am sure we could have gotten Ott back if we wanted him (thankfully we didn't). I like Sharp just fine but no point in giving up a high pick or more to get him for a year or two.
- Slump Buster

We got Gionta and Moulson because we were willing to give them more term and dollars than any other team.

We got Gionta and Moulson because we were willing to give them more term and dollars than any other team.
- sbroads24

(shrug) so what? We were also trying to get to the cap floor. It doesn't change the point. When we are good again we won't have to do that.

Moulson was actually a pretty good signing. He will be a 2nd line winger in the near future before settling into a 3rd line role at the end of his career. He is a classic complimentary player.
- Slump Buster

I think he's incredibly mediocre. I want someone better on my second line in 2 yesrs, and someone with a different style on my 3rd line.