Pretty crappy top 15 UFA list....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ke-green-justin-williams/

You could add every one of those guys to our current roster and we still wouldn't win a Cup.
- 87_71_11_29

Ribeiro and Soderberg. Soderberg will be asking for a raise and Ribeiro is old but its worth kicking the tires. St. Louis.....always wanted him in a penguin sweater but again old.

sounds like conclusion is burn this year and hope to put the pieces in place the following year.

Winnik was worth a 2 and 4 at deadline. Maybe Kunitz is worth a 1st at a deadline.

Maybe next years UFA class is better. If we position better with cap which is quite possible and build assets for a year then maybe quick rebuild is only option.

Only reason Frolik is even discussed is because he's the only thing out there. We don't have assets this year to trade. We don't have UFA guys available to sign. Which means develop the young dmen for a year, really get good with the cap and hope to make a big splash the following year. Kappy will be ready the year after

I'm absolutely disgusted reading some of your trade proposals. Maatta and Pouliot should be the very top of the no trade list for this team. You don't trade 21 year old, future allstar defensemen, especially for a winger you can easily get for less. Depending on how deep Matt Murray carries WBS into the playoffs he should be right up there too. And all the trade Perron talk is VERY premature, a lot of you must not remember the start of James Neils career in Pittsburgh because it was much less stellar and turned out pretty good. This teams focus should be player development right now, not firesales and make trades just to make trades logic. If Perron has a poor continuation into next season then MAYBE at the deadline think about moving him. But trading him now is foolish. If he comes back next year, healed from the rib injuries he was playing through, and finds his comfort zone he's the exact type of player this team needs, Watching him play for Edmonton before he was traded he was the only player on that team that gave %200 every game, even though that team sucked, I think a healthy %200 from Perron and Hornquist will be infectious next year, barring injury, there is zero reason to trade him right now. The Penguins need to develop Kapanan, Bennet, Dumoulin, Pouliot, and Harrington over the summer by having them work as hard on their conditioning and strength as they can. They all have the god given talented and the extra conditioning will make them strong enough to play in the NHL and less prone to injuries. Then after training camp assess any needs at that point. Who knows, Sundquist, Blueger and Wilson/ Rust could be the bottom 6 scoring help we've needed for years now all on very affordable deals.

I'm absolutely disgusted reading some of your trade proposals. Maatta and Pouliot should be the very top of the no trade list for this team. You don't trade 21 year old, future allstar defensemen, especially for a winger you can easily get for less. Depending on how deep Matt Murray carries WBS into the playoffs he should be right up there too. And all the trade Perron talk is VERY premature, a lot of you must not remember the start of James Neils career in Pittsburgh because it was much less stellar and turned out pretty good. This teams focus should be player development right now, not firesales and make trades just to make trades logic. If Perron has a poor continuation into next season then MAYBE at the deadline think about moving him. But trading him now is foolish. If he comes back next year, healed from the rib injuries he was playing through, and finds his comfort zone he's the exact type of player this team needs, Watching him play for Edmonton before he was traded he was the only player on that team that gave %200 every game, even though that team sucked, I think a healthy %200 from Perron and Hornquist will be infectious next year, barring injury, there is zero reason to trade him right now. The Penguins need to develop Kapanan, Bennet, Dumoulin, Pouliot, and Harrington over the summer by having them work as hard on their conditioning and strength as they can. They all have the god given talented and the extra conditioning will make them strong enough to play in the NHL and less prone to injuries. Then after training camp assess any needs at that point. Who knows, Sundquist, Blueger and Wilson/ Rust could be the bottom 6 scoring help we've needed for years now all on very affordable deals.
- Dcoms

Agree with most, certainly not all of this. Yes, its important to continue to develop Kapanen, Sundqvist, Dumo, Pouliot, Blueger ... Bennett's development should be somewhat concluded, but he is even behind some of those mentioned in my book even though he has close to 100 NHL games. As for Harrington, if the Pens won't trade Malkin, he will have to be involved in a trade package with Sutter to get a young competent top six winger since we have FEW trade assets and JR believes getting that top six forward will come via trade.

Ribeiro and Soderberg. Soderberg will be asking for a raise and Ribeiro is old but its worth kicking the tires. St. Louis.....always wanted him in a penguin sweater but again old.
- kgrpitt

I really want Soderberg on this team. Bigger, stronger player....especially on the boards than Sutter. Then you deal Sutter for a possible asset or high pick for Sutter.

That's MY starting point for fixing this team.

Good interview of Shero on the fan. Maybe they'll post it on their site.

Is there another under performing high pic we could swap for Bennett and give both potential players a change of scenery?

I really want Soderberg on this team. Bigger, stronger player....especially on the boards than Sutter. Then you deal Sutter for a possible asset or high pick for Sutter.

That's MY starting point for fixing this team.

Good interview of Shero on the fan. Maybe they'll post it on their site.
- madmike71

We agree on a lot of things, but swapping out third line centers doesn't make a huge impact here IMO. We have greater problems than that.

We agree on a lot of things, but swapping out third line centers doesn't make a huge impact here IMO. We have greater problems than that.
- Oneonta Penguin

Just a starting point.

If you can get Soderberg locked up for 3 or 4 years at 4mil. It improves the 3rd line and solidifies it long term. Then it free's up Sutter to be moved for another asset.

To PIT: Pacioretty, Desharnais, Tinordi
To MTL: Malkin
- Mike Komisarek

Neither team would do this, and I'd have to think about the secondary pieces, but this is exactly the type of deal I would consider for Malkin. Pacioretty - Crosby - Hornqvist would be a sick top line. In theory Desharnais is the new 2nd line center and Tinordi is the bruising defenseman we lack. I'd have to look harder at the other guys, but if Pacioretty is on the deal I'd find a way to make it work.

Malkin is the single biggest chip Pittsburgh has to deal. His return trumps that if you combine all the returns to the guys people want to deal put together - Sutter, Kunitz, Scuderi, Spaling ... et al. That said, he has missed quite a few games over the last three years, makes a ton of money (north of 9 million) and hasn't been a 100-point producer since 2011-12. That seems eons ago. Talent wise, he is a top five player in the NHL WHEN HE IS HEALTHY. Guess what ... he has missed quite a bit of hockey.

I think people get too carried away on his worth. Very talented and should be worth a hefty return, but some of the ideas I see are way over the top. Teams that send those types of packages get worse and there is no incentive to do such a deal.

We are going to have to agree to disagree
- Oneonta Penguin

You are bang on that Malkin is the single biggest chip, and in my mind trading Malkin is the only way to improve the team. If we stay with Malkin we will not get better, just the same team out there next year, with likely the same results.

To your point of Malkin not being a 100 pt player, well there hasnt been many 100pt players since Malkin did it, Im too lazy to look it up but it may just be Crosby. Fact is if Malkin is healthy next year he floats around 100 pts.

You're right with some of these trade proposals, and peoples insistance that we need to be overcompensated for Malkin. We arent in business to win trades, we need to win games.

In terms of overpayment, I think Edmonton is a possibility. Hall + Nuge + 1st/Draisitle. And before everyone jumps on me about Malkin not going to want to go there, it may be the best option for him.
He will be going to a team where he will become the captain and be expected to lead, which I think he wants. But also he is going to a team that is about to draft Jesus McDavid. All the attention will be on McDavid, the media will want to talk to McDavid. Canada loves Jesus McDavid. Edmonton needs a guy to bring this team along, enough to overpay.

I still think Malkin ends up in St Louis... but there are a few trades out there that can improve our team.

Frolik had too many single digit goal seasons to be getting 5M.

Pacioretty's last four year goal totals were 33, 15 in 44gp, 39, and 37. If he were in the deal, the other pieces wouldn't be their other best players because he's such a prime asset himself at less than half Malkin's cap hit. If you also got one of their better forward prospects as well, you don't need the last piece to be a young star for this to be a win, just a useful roster player.

My goodness. How did the Malkin trade proposals start again?!?!. Do I need to repost the multiple articles which were released no more than two weeks ago with JR stating that neither Malkin or anyone else in the "core" is getting traded!!!

I said to like others trade Martin straight up for willams at the deadline. Looks like if we sign willams we win that pretrade if it ever hsppened.

My goodness. How did the Malkin trade proposals start again?!?!. Do I need to repost the multiple articles which were released no more than two weeks ago with JR stating that neither Malkin or anyone else in the "core" is getting traded!!!
- joescullz

It doesnt matter what articles you post, I am going to make every effort to change the topic of every blog to trading Malkin.

It doesnt matter what articles you post, I am going to make every effort to change the topic of every blog to trading Malkin.
- stackthepads

Hahahahaha!!! I love having a life...

Caps baby!! F the rags!!

delete

Caps!

Caps!
- madmike71

I said during our series with the Rags and have said for the last four games ... I don't see the Rags making it out of the second round alive. Holtby has turned into a quality goalie.

By the way, Beagle >>>>> the great Derek Stepan this series.

I said during our series with the Rags and have said for the last four games ... I don't see the Rags making it out of the second round alive. Holtby has turned into a quality goalie.

By the way, Beagle >>>>> the great Derek Stepan this series.
- Oneonta Penguin

It's really enjoyable. I haven't rooted against a team like this since the Philly/Hawks cup final.

Hey fellas, aren't you going to welcome me to the site?

Hey fellas, aren't you going to welcome me to the site?
- freeBartley

I think the Rags fans have already done that.

Hey fellas, aren't you going to welcome me to the site?
- freeBartley

Too funny.



F Rockefeller Center

Hey fellas, aren't you going to welcome me to the site?
- freeBartley

F Me

It's really enjoyable. I haven't rooted against a team like this since the Philly/Hawks cup final.
- madmike71

The Flyers are the most hated; but the gap is seriously closing with the Rags. Can't f'in stand them and their fans.