I agree with you. Honestly, where we are, I'd take the gamble and flip Sutter. Sutter needs to be flipped from an assets point of view. Although I'd like to flip Spaling too, he can be our insurance if we miss out on 3C signings. Still think one of Magic Mike's biggest blunders last season was not giving Spaling a look at 3C to see what he could do there.
- Victoro311

i really do think he would struggle. he may be able to break even defensively, but i think a line spearheaded by spaling would generate virtually nothing offensively.

im not someone who advocates trading malkin. at all. but this would at least make me pause and think.
- stayinthefnnet

I love Malkin. Just personally, he's such a fun player to watch, love his personality, his parents, all of it.

But as an emotionless GM, that move could be a move in the right direction. It addresses team needs with quality, rather than a bunch of picks/prospects. For all intents and purposes, we are adding offensive output, getting younger, likely faster, cheaper/more balanced on the salary cap structure, and getting us back in the first round of a deep draft (we could all hope for a big Power Forward to be available like Bittner). Galchenyuk still has further upside but is definitely an adequate 2C which is all he needs to be for now.

i really do think he would struggle. he may be able to break even defensively, but i think a line spearheaded by spaling would generate virtually nothing offensively.
- stayinthefnnet

God, no. I don't like Sutter, but I like Spaling even less. Completely vanilla, dime a dozen player. Goc is a better 3rd C than Spaling.

Back to something not many people commented on...any chance Drouin is available given TB's offensive depth and his underwhelming performance this season?

I love Malkin. Just personally, he's such a fun player to watch, love his personality, his parents, all of it.

But as an emotionless GM, that move could be a move in the right direction. It addresses team needs with quality, rather than a bunch of picks/prospects. For all intents and purposes, we are adding offensive output, getting younger, likely faster, cheaper/more balanced on the salary cap structure, and getting us back in the first round of a deep draft (we could all hope for a big Power Forward to be available like Bittner). Galchenyuk still has further upside but is definitely an adequate 2C which is all he needs to be for now.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

yeah. i definitely agree with the first part, and can see the logic in the second portion.

value wise, i see it.

Back to something not many people commented on...any chance Drouin is available given TB's offensive depth and his underwhelming performance this season?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

i doubt theyd be willing to pull the plug so soon. and secondly, i dont even know what tampa would even begin to need. they are stacked through and through.

I agree with you. Honestly, where we are, I'd take the gamble and flip Sutter. Sutter needs to be flipped from an assets point of view. Although I'd like to flip Spaling too, he can be our insurance if we miss out on 3C signings. Still think one of Magic Mike's biggest blunders last season was not giving Spaling a look at 3C to see what he could do there.
- Victoro311

I'd gamble too and trade Sutter at the draft and make a contingency plan with other options should Soderberg not happen. Maybe Santorelli?

Problem with trading Malkin is you can't undo it. As soon as you do the deal you feel like you just made a terrible mistake. gal, Pac, and a 1st is about the best offer I've seen on here. Have to surround Gal with some descent wingers or you will recognize real quick how terrific Geno is.

Back to something not many people commented on...any chance Drouin is available given TB's offensive depth and his underwhelming performance this season?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

It would take a lot for Tampa to move Drouin. Stamkos needs a skilled guy to play with much like St.Loius was. Callahan and Killorn are good players but they don't have the skill to compliment Stamkos. If anything I can Tampa moving Bishop or Vasilevskiy

i doubt theyd be willing to pull the plug so soon. and secondly, i dont even know what tampa would even begin to need. they are stacked through and through.
- stayinthefnnet

I'd imagine if they're trading out a young offensive piece they'd want a similar defensive piece. Seems like a good match.

Back to something not many people commented on...any chance Drouin is available given TB's offensive depth and his underwhelming performance this season?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

No chance IMO. They have no reason to. He is all upside and cheap. It would take a stupid good offer to get him.
The only thing I can see them trading him for is a young cap controlled D with top pairing potential, but even that is unnecessary at this point.

Problem with trading Malkin is you can't undo it. As soon as you do the deal you feel like you just made a terrible mistake. gal, Pac, and a 1st is about the best offer I've seen on here. Have to surround Gal with some descent wingers or you will recognize real quick how terrific Geno is.
- dbell646

I agree. It's not just Malkin's offence you're losing. He makes players around him better

I'd gamble too and trade Sutter at the draft and make a contingency plan with other options should Soderberg not happen. Maybe Santorelli?
- madmike71

Santorelli isn't a bad piece to get. I think his play is very average at 3rd line center and should come at a very average price

I agree. It's not just Malkin's offence you're losing. He makes players around him better
- willi

And when he doesn't have competent players around him, he doesn't. A 70-point scorer and a 60-point scorer coming back in a deal gives Pittsburgh more value and probably at a cheaper cost.

I agree. It's not just Malkin's offence you're losing. He makes players around him better
- willi

I think it's a to big of a move for a team with stanley cup aspirations to make. The backlash would be huge especially if we didn't at least make the finals. I'm not so sure it can't help us tho.

And when he doesn't have competent players around him, he doesn't. A 70-point scorer and a 60-point scorer coming back in a deal gives Pittsburgh more value and probably at a cheaper cost.
- Oneonta Penguin

Just for arguments sake didn't he win the conne Smyth with Feds and Talbo on his wings?

I agree. It's not just Malkin's offence you're losing. He makes players around him better
- willi

For sure. We are saving roughly $5.5M in salary until Galch's next deal. Dont know when his ELC is up without capgeek....and yes i realize its easier said than done to get quality wingers for him even with freed cash. Without moving Sutter for a winger, we'd still have a pretty darn good internal top 6..

Patches-Sid-Hornqvist
Dupuis/Kapanen-Galch-Perron

The last thing this team needs is another over paid over the hill so called experienced veteran. Those days are gone Youth springs eternal It is time to let the younger players step in an play. Experience is way over rated. Tell some of those young guys on the Lightning and Flames that they need experience to play in the playoffs

Rags fans are a sensitive bunch today, I wonder why? You would think they are down 3-1 in a playoff series or something. Oh wait....

I think it's a to big of a move for a team with stanley cup aspirations to make. The backlash would be huge especially if we didn't at least make the finals. I'm not so sure it can't help us tho.
- dbell646

Overall, the time to move Malkin probaby isn't now. It make mores sense when hes 32...but, obviously, the return will be less.

I just dont get why some people are too stubborn to even discuss it as a possibility. There are pros and cons just like any trade.

And in no way do I hinge on Morehouse's controlled PR message to the media about not moving any of the core. It would be a terrible idea to advertise publicly that you are shopping him. I'd wait for a phone call from some team to say "any chance you'd consider trading Geno for this package?" and we have the leverage.

For sure. We are saving roughly $5.5M in salary until Galch's next deal. Dont know when his ELC is up without capgeek....and yes i realize its easier said than done to get quality wingers for him even with freed cash. Without moving Sutter for a winger, we'd still have a pretty darn good internal top 6..

Patches-Sid-Hornqvist
Dupuis/Kapanen-Galch-Perron
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Galchenyk needs a new contract for next season. I don't know what he'd get for a bridge deal

Just for arguments sake didn't he win the conne Smyth with Feds and Talbo on his wings?
- dbell646

Sure ... but that seems like eons ago. He doesn't seem close to the same player he was when he did that.

So, DB to NJ rumors. Which young talented rookie Dman will get the Despres treatment by him?

So, DB to NJ rumors. Which young talented rookie Dman will get the Despres treatment by him?

Rags fans are a sensitive bunch today, I wonder why? You would think they are down 3-1 in a playoff series or something. Oh wait....
- PittsPens

yeah, I remember the last time we were down 3-1 in a series....oh wait..