Hey guys just got off phone with my buddy who works at FNC. He told me Pegula and Murray are going to make a heavy push for #1 overall. Players being thrown in are pretty significant. As I always say when relaying what I hear from him, please take with a grain of salt as he isn't always 100% accurate so don't shoot the messenger! The offer as he has heard:

Edmonton:
#1 Overall

Buffalo:
Pysyk
Zadorov/Ristolainen (choice of 1)
Foligno
#2 Overall
NYI 1st

First time I have talked to him since leaving WNY or I would have said something sooner. Again he is not the best "source" but he has gotten some things right in the past, grain of salt please!
- Orphen22

I want McDavid badly, but I don't think you can give up Pysyk AND Risto/Zads without really hurting your depth on defense. I can see why that deal might appeal to Edmonton. They would get two top-4 D, a solid 3rd line winger, Jack Eichel and the #21 pick.

[quote=McJesus_FTW]
And I hope the kid tears it up in those colors! Love to see you guys competitive again!!

In a more realistic world, who is going to be the next two coaches for the franchise?


My guesses are:

Buffalo: McLellan

Rochester: Someone like a former player (McKee, Peca, Martin Gelinas or Niedermeyer) Obviously all of those are shots in the dark but what do you think?

Yes, by all means, let's give the edmonton "3 1st overall forwards and now a generational center" oilers Zads and Pysyk. Fvck it, give 'em the other first and throw in Foligno too.

It's not just about giving too much up and being a terrible deal for us, you have to understand how much you'd be helping the oilers here.
- Herzeleid

Who cares about helping the Oilers? They play out west anyway. I'd be more worried about gutting our defense to the point that you are giving up 4 goals a game.

I understand it's giving up a lot.

Like I said, the question is how much better is McDavid. I believe Hawerchuk said McDavid skates like Orr, has the vision of Gretzky and the hands of Lemiuex (and he didn't mean Claude). How good is Eichel going to be? As good as Tavares or Stamkos? Maybe better, maybe not. I don't know.

You may also want to consider the "McDavid effect." UFAs will want to play in Buffalo with McDavid on the team. And players with NTCs or partial NTCs would probably waive their rights to play in Buffalo with McDavid. Would Eichel have the same effect? Maybe, maybe not.

For the record, I'm not hell bent on bending over backwards to get McDavid. But if a fair deal can be reached, I say go for it. But if Murray can't get a deal done that he likes and we draft Eichel, that's cool. I'm totally on board and looking forward to this team getting better.

Interesting days ahead. Can't wait for draft day.
- 100goalseason

Not to mention Babcock could end up as our coach if we got McDavid.

It's a no brainer, you do that all day long if you can get both 1st and 2nd pick. I doubt it hapoens.
- SABRES 89

Ive been on that bandwagon for months now. Throw in next years 1st Keep Reinhart too

And I hope the kid tears it up in those colors! Love to see you guys competitive again!!
- Orphen22

Sup homie... how's the snake.... doing better after a good feed? Also I got my hands on a banana for you.... it's proven breeder female tho... and it ain't cheap..... 700 bills and it's yours.....

Not to mention Babcock could end up as our coach if we got McDavid.
- Pierceme69

If that's what it takes to get him, no thanks.

If that's what it takes to get him, no thanks.
- stashu

I'm not for sale....

Sup homie... how's the snake.... doing better after a good feed? Also I got my hands on a banana for you.... it's proven breeder female tho... and it ain't cheap..... 700 bills and it's yours.....
- McJesus_FTW

I sent you a PM yesterday haha. Yea he is good ate them np after the broth bath. I'm not on the market currently just figured I'd see what you thought was fair price, I've seen them as low as 650 and as high as 1200.

If that's what it takes to get him, no thanks.
- stashu

These conversations are always fun to revisit 5 or so years down the road. Conventional wisdom says "stay put", but when you are talking about someone who is this good, it's always tempting.

Sup homie... how's the snake.... doing better after a good feed? Also I got my hands on a banana for you.... it's proven breeder female tho... and it ain't cheap..... 700 bills and it's yours.....
- McJesus_FTW

No.prezsure tho.... if you don't want it I'm a keep it......

I sent you a PM yesterday haha. Yea he is good ate them np after the broth bath. I'm not on the market currently just figured I'd see what you thought was fair price, I've seen them as low as 650 and as high as 1200.
- Orphen22

No I saw the Pm. .. just making Conversation. honestly I got the banana for 575.... but I got to make a buck.... you know... it's what I do... I'm not in the business to break even.... I can how ever hook you up with a baby mail for 475.... I'm only making like 65 bucks..... when ever you down shoot me a text... I Pm you my number.

These conversations are always fun to revisit 5 or so years down the road. Conventional wisdom says "stay put", but when you are talking about someone who is this good, it's always tempting.
- buffalofan19

I meant Babcock in that reply, but I'm also not in favor of sending out two of our best d prospects in a trade for McDavid. Eichel+Pysyk+Ristolainen+late 1st (no cares given about Foligno) seems better for an overall team than McDavid backed by: Gorges, Bogosian, Weber, Zadorov and 2 randos

If that's what it takes to get him, no thanks.
- stashu

Just sayin. That wouldn't suck.

No I saw the Pm. .. just making Conversation. honestly I got the banana for 575.... but I got to make a buck.... you know... it's what I do... I'm not in the business to break even.... I can how ever hook you up with a baby mail for 475.... I'm only making like 65 bucks..... when ever you down shoot me a text... I Pm you my number.
- McJesus_FTW

You are still drunk.

I meant Babcock in that reply, but I'm also not in favor of sending out two of our best d prospects in a trade for McDavid. Eichel+Pysyk+Ristolainen+late 1st (no cares given about Foligno) seems better for an overall team than McDavid backed by: Gorges, Bogosian, Weber, Zadorov and 2 randos
- stashu

Maybe Murray thinks McCabe is NHL ready? I don't know. I like the trade more if it's Zads and not Risto.

I meant Babcock in that reply, but I'm also not in favor of sending out two of our best d prospects in a trade for McDavid. Eichel+Pysyk+Ristolainen+late 1st (no cares given about Foligno) seems better for an overall team than McDavid backed by: Gorges, Bogosian, Weber, Zadorov and 2 randos
- stashu

If you can replace him with Reinhart, do you then do it?

No I saw the Pm. .. just making Conversation. honestly I got the banana for 575.... but I got to make a buck.... you know... it's what I do... I'm not in the business to break even.... I can how ever hook you up with a baby mail for 475.... I'm only making like 65 bucks..... when ever you down shoot me a text... I Pm you my number.
- McJesus_FTW

Sounds good man! I'll let you know!

You are still drunk.


- dadeadhead

(frank)... I'm out at my cabin.... I got a fishing rod, no responsibilitys and a ton of liquor.... what do you want from me...

You're most likely right.

Every year we hear news about how the team with the #1 overall is willing to trade the first pick, or is hearing offers, or whatever the popular rhetoric of the season happens to be. And every year nothing happens. With a generational player like McDavid, the chances go from zero to negative, unless, of course, he pulls an Eric Lindros, John Elway, or Eli Manning.
- buffalofan19

We heard last year that Florida was entertaining offers... still wasn't traded. This year, Edmonton isn't even entertaining the notion. Which leads me to believe they're not even answering the phone.

Maybe Murray thinks McCabe is NHL ready? I don't know. I like the trade more if it's Zads and not Risto.
- Pierceme69

Yeah, I get that, and it's better if it's Reinhart vs the #2, but I don't see how Edmonton would do either of those 2 options.

If you can replace him with Reinhart, do you then do it?
- dadeadhead

^^^

Just covered that

Still not an overall fan of it all, I think Eichel is still going to be great and it seems like a lot to give up

Sounds good man! I'll let you know!
- Orphen22

Cool man... as for anyone else on this thread I am a reptile god... so if you got any questions.... don't hesitate to ask....

Cool man... as for anyone else on this thread I am a reptile god... so if you got any questions.... don't hesitate to ask....
- McJesus_FTW