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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
Only one in the past 10 years where the Flyers drafted better than the Rangers, huh?

Would you rather have:
JvR or Cherapanov (assuming Cherapanov didn't die)
Couturier or Miller
Laughton or Skjei (Laughton does have an OHL scoring championship)

- jmatchett383


oh I am wishing somebody here would die, that's for sure
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

May 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
You I like. The riff raff around talk about card board pizza and what not. I cook my pulled pork with a little honey. Just to sweeten it a tiny bit.
- tomburton99

That sounds great. I'm going to try that this weekend.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
Only one in the past 10 years where the Flyers drafted better than the Rangers, huh?

Would you rather have:
JvR or Cherapanov (assuming Cherapanov didn't die)
Couturier or Miller
Laughton or Skjei (Laughton does have an OHL scoring championship)

- jmatchett383

The Rangers never had a shot at any of them. Now if you were to go Giroux-Snguinetti. Answer is obvious.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
lets talk Hartnell for Umberger for awhile
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
The Rangers never had a shot at any of them. Now if you were to go Giroux-Snguinetti. Answer is obvious.
- tomburton99



Still like Miller over Couturier in the end. Couturier is a little better skilled version of Dom Moore.

Not exactly a steal for a top ten pick.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Can we get a mod in here this is getting out of hand.
- Cptmjl


MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
lets talk Hartnell for Umberger for awhile
- jimbro83



Or Kubina for two second round picks. That brings back some good memories.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
Still like Miller over Couturier in the end. Couturier is a little better skilled version of Dom Moore.

Not exactly a steal for a top ten pick.

- MidnightMarauder


The guy who was 9th in Selke voting at 20 years old is "a little better skilled version of Dom Moore?" Damn, I didn't know how great of a player Dom Moore was at 20.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
Still like Miller over Couturier in the end. Couturier is a little better skilled version of Dom Moore.

Not exactly a steal for a top ten pick.

- MidnightMarauder

Very true. Couturier is still very skilled. He's also saddled with poop line mates. But yeah his stock has really fallen from his draft hype.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
I knew it was a racehorse. Love the Ponies. Got my clock cleaned on the Derby though. Dortmund.
- tomburton99



Yeah, I'm a huge fan. I used to be able to list off just about every Derby winner back to the 30's, which is useless unless you play a lot of pub trivia, but somehow I could retain the names. Hope the sport gets a Triple Crown winner to get some life back into it.

As for Upset, that was almost a hundred years ago, so it's pretty normal not to recognize him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
Do or die game 5 tomorrow and we are discussing the Flyers past draft classes. I love hockeybuzz....
- mrhattrick27


seriously.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
The guy who was 9th in Selke voting at 20 years old is "a little better skilled version of Dom Moore?" Damn, I didn't know how great of a player Dom Moore was at 20.
- jmatchett383



Gloating about ninth in defensive forward of the year awards? It comes to that now, doesn't it?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Or Kubina for two second round picks. That brings back some good memories.
- MidnightMarauder


Well we can't all trade our captain and 2 consecutive first rounders for an aging superstar who has 3 points in the playoffs.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think the worst drafting crowns are locked in a three way battle between the Penguins, the Leafs and the Devils.
- MidnightMarauder


that's a big pile of suck.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Gloating about ninth in defensive forward of the year awards? It comes to that now, doesn't it?
- MidnightMarauder


For a 20-year-old? Yeah, that's pretty damn impressive.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Yeah, I'm a huge fan. I used to be able to list off just about every Derby winner back to the 30's, which is useless unless you play a lot of pub trivia, but somehow I could retain the names. Hope the sport gets a Triple Crown winner to get some life back into it.

As for Upset, that was almost a hundred years ago, so it's pretty normal not to recognize him.

- WineryDog

I'm still relatively young. But I know about stuff from like back to the 70's. Thanks for the Upset story though. Little bit of info never hurts.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Very true. Couturier is still very skilled. He's also saddled with poop line mates. But yeah his stock has really fallen from his draft hype.
- tomburton99



He's still young and can easily turn into a great two way center for the next decade. To now though, unless he is playing Pittsburgh, I have never been impressed with him.
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Thanks. Is it an offset smoker or a dual smoker/grill?

My buddy swears by the green egg but it's expensive. I think I'd rather start with some sort of offset smoker and get good at that before I invest more $. Plus, I have little ones that take up a lot of time that I can't devote to the grill, so I'm always concerned I'll spend the money and then the thing will sit there unused for awhile. I need to look into a dual grill/smoker I think so I make sure it gets used.

- WineryDog

I have a Masterbuilt electric that was pretty inexpensive. It's very easy to work with. The better smokers are wood or charcoal, like the green egg, but mine is easy and works fine. It has a glass window so I can watch the progress.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
No offense, but the Giroux pick is literally the only one you can hang over Rangers fans heads in the last ten years.
- MidnightMarauder


had the lottery gone their way, the flyers would have kane instead of luke schenn. my god, that hurts just typing this.

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Thanks. I think I need to get a basic one and if I use it as much as I think I will, then I can upgrade. I'm sure the ceramic egg is great. It's just too expensive ($1100 for the big one with all the add ons).
- WineryDog

A few years ago my wife got me a Chargriller for my birthday. It has turned out some pretty awesome Q. Salmon, pulled chicken, wings, pork, shrimp, tomatoes, garlic, you get the idea. You could smoke a turd and it would be delicious.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
For a 20-year-old? Yeah, that's pretty damn impressive.
- jmatchett383


Thanks for answering my question in a prompt manner.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
for once?

the flyers have a long list of excellent first round picks. unfortunately for them, many have gone on to nice careers after they've left the flyers because they were impatient or made trades to deal with an injury problem. patrick sharp is a great example (although he was a 3rd rounder). justin williams is another. carter, richards, gagne, giroux....most of these guys were picked in the 20s.

they've done poorly in later rounds, and often haven't had many picks in those rounds for reasons mentioned above.

they absolutely have dead weight that needs to be cleared, but there's a nice nucleus of talent up front, a very solid goalie, and some terrific defensive prospects all being groomed right now. they'll get a very nice player with the #7 pick and maybe some diamonds in the rough with all the others hextall has stockpiled. they won't be a contender over night, but in 3-5 years they should much much better team.

i don't know how you can say "worst drafting team by far since 2006"? can you back that up? and in case you haven't noticed, that gm, paul holmgren is no longer the gm. hextall had an outstanding draft last year, his first. he'll likely do even better this time around because of the depth and number of picks they have.

- hammarby31


Cmon man. You even have to admit the flyers were probably bottom 5 in drafting.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
Thanks. I think I need to get a basic one and if I use it as much as I think I will, then I can upgrade. I'm sure the ceramic egg is great. It's just too expensive ($1100 for the big one with all the add ons).
- WineryDog



They have some cheaper ceramic eggs. Best thing you could probably do is search the interwebs or some of the smoker forums. Probably get some real good info on there. Good luck
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
I'm still relatively young. But I know about stuff from like back to the 70's. Thanks for the Upset story though. Little bit of info never hurts.
- tomburton99

So your ref encyclopedia has archives now to huh?
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
had the lottery gone their way, the flyers would have kane instead of luke schenn. my god, that hurts just typing this.


- hammarby31



Kane definitely changes the game. But JvR was no slouch; an absolutely inexcusable trade made there.
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