He picked it up a good bit during the middle third of the season, I would not be upset if he's the pick - Jsaquella
Do you put much stock in how old these guys are? I know some people think when you compare players like Meier and Crouse it's important to remember the former is almost 9 months older.
Do you put much stock in how old these guys are? I know some people think when you compare players like Meier and Crouse it's important to remember the former is almost 9 months older. - Feanor
Some stock, especially if an older guy is excelling because he's a man against boys.
I don't see that as the result of Meier's success, more that he's on a better team. But he can finish. I don't see that as a function of age, but it might be.
I'd still go Barzal, but it'd be a hard choice. Hanifin is a guy that has all the tools, but in a couple games I watched he looked...out of sorts, a bit. - Jsaquella
You're as in love with Barzal as I've become with Meier.
I still take Hanifin or Provorov.
Here's the argument for Crouse that I just heard on the Junior podcast:
If you take one of these smaller skilled guys up front and they're not giving you points what are they giving you? With Crouse, you've seen him play in an offensive role with Sam Bennett. He played a shut down roll with the World Juniors. This season he's had to be a multi tool player with an injured team. He's succeeded in every situation. You know he can put up goals, you've seen him play the defensive side of the game. If he makes an NHL team out of camp and he's playing 9 or 10 minutes a game he'll go out there and give you a quality shift every time in every situation.
Some stock, especially if an older guy is excelling because he's a man against boys.
I don't see that as the result of Meier's success, more that he's on a better team. But he can finish. I don't see that as a function of age, but it might be. - Jsaquella
Hes got great size too unlike some of the other forwards rated high.
I like what Hexy's doing here. By adding some young defenseman who are NHL ready or very close to it, he's making some of the less desirable contracts we have here more comfortable to trade now. Last offseason we weren't even in a position to deal Grossmann or LSchenn. Even though they have some glaring flaws in their games, our defense needed them even just to remain NHL caliber. By adding some of these guys, we could very comfortably move out some of the current D if these young guys win out at training camp. Also, more competition at training camp and in the AHL will challenge our prospects to be better, which isn't a bad thing at all.
You're as in love with Barzal as I've become with Meier.
I still take Hanifin or Provorov.
Here's the argument for Crouse that I just heard on the Junior podcast:
If you take one of these smaller skilled guys up front and they're not giving you points what are they giving you? With Crouse, you've seen him play in an offensive role with Sam Bennett. He played a shut down roll with the World Juniors. This season he's had to be a multi tool player with an injured team. He's succeeded in every situation. You know he can put up goals, you've seen him play the defensive side of the game. If he makes an NHL team out of camp and he's playing 9 or 10 minutes a game he'll go out there and give you a quality shift every time in every situation.
That was the argument. - mayorofangrytown
It's a good argument. It's part of why I like Barzal so much, he's a good two way guy. Loads of speed & smarts. I think if he was healthy, he's a top 4 or 5 pick at worst. But with the years that Strome and Marner had, it's not surprising he's rated lower.
You're as in love with Barzal as I've become with Meier.
I still take Hanifin or Provorov.
Here's the argument for Crouse that I just heard on the Junior podcast:
If you take one of these smaller skilled guys up front and they're not giving you points what are they giving you? With Crouse, you've seen him play in an offensive role with Sam Bennett. He played a shut down roll with the World Juniors. This season he's had to be a multi tool player with an injured team. He's succeeded in every situation. You know he can put up goals, you've seen him play the defensive side of the game. If he makes an NHL team out of camp and he's playing 9 or 10 minutes a game he'll go out there and give you a quality shift every time in every situation.
That was the argument. - mayorofangrytown
The thing is, is that what the Flyers really need? Raffl, Couturier, Laughton. We have guys who can do that. Most of his goals seemed to be scored <5 feet from the net - rebounds, deflections, quick release or getting open, basically Simmonds kind of goals.
He's got size, but how much of an upgrade in goals is he over having Raffl on the line? I'm personally of the mindset that Raffl is really a 2nd/3rd line winger.
I think Crouse is a very good player. I think we need a different skill set if we go forward.
Been watching some of your Meier. He's much more dynamic than Crouse. Really nice shot, can score off the rush or in close. I'd like a guy like that much more than a guy like Crouse.
I still have Barzal as my forward; Provorov as my D. Would not trade up if it cost Schenn or even Laughton.
The thing is, is that what the Flyers really need? Raffl, Couturier, Laughton. We have guys who can do that. Most of his goals seemed to be scored <5 feet from the net - rebounds, deflections, quick release or getting open, basically Simmonds kind of goals.
He's got size, but how much of an upgrade in goals is he over having Raffl on the line? I'm personally of the mindset that Raffl is really a 2nd/3rd line winger.
I think Crouse is a very good player. I think we need a different skill set if we go forward.
Been watching some of your Meier. He's much more dynamic than Crouse. Really nice shot, can score off the rush or in close. I'd like a guy like that much more than a guy like Crouse.
I still have Barzal as my forward; Provorov as my D. Would not trade up if it cost Schenn or even Laughton. - TheGreat28
If they take Crouse at 7 I'd be okay but I'd MUCH RATHER have Meier. I haven't gotten to Barzal yet. Who knows how I'll feel after watching a dozen of his games. Jsaq loves him. He's no dummy and I trust him and OB. They've been watching all season. I usually start late February and back watch games. I catch a lot of WHL games because of my schedule but I mostly concentrated on Calgary and Kelowna. I didn't see Barzal or Provorov much before the playoffs.
Honestly I'm hoping Hanifin takes a dive and we can somehow move the Tampa pick up into a position to take a forward but not Merkley or Zacha.
I should clarify. I would consider trading the Lightning pick + Schenn or Laughton depending on how far up you could get and who was available. If you could get a pick back, all the better.
I really like Svechnikov, Connor and Sprong. I suspect Connor will go top 12, so you might not get him. But if you could get Winnipeg's pick at 17 for Laughton/Lightning pick, I'd do it. I'd want something else back for B Schenn.
If they take Crouse at 7 I'd be okay but I'd MUCH RATHER have Meier. I haven't gotten to Barzal yet. Who knows how I'll feel after watching a dozen of his games. Jsaq loves him. He's no dummy and I trust him and OB. They've been watching all season. I usually start late February and back watch games. I catch a lot of WHL games because of my schedule but I mostly concentrated on Calgary and Kelowna. I didn't see Barzal or Provorov much before the playoffs.
Honestly I'm hoping Hanifin takes a dive and we can somehow move the Tampa pick up into a position to take a forward but not Merkley or Zacha. - mayorofangrytown
Here's another thing with Crouse. You can probably get Bittner in the 2nd round who is a slightly lesser version of Crouse.
I should clarify. I would consider trading the Lightning pick + Schenn or Laughton depending on how far up you could get and who was available. If you could get a pick back, all the better.
I really like Svechnikov, Connor and Sprong. I suspect Connor will go top 12, so you might not get him. But if you could get Winnipeg's pick at 17 for Laughton/Lightning pick, I'd do it. I'd want something else back for B Schenn. - TheGreat28
has to suck for Hexy that B Schenn is being scratched
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
May 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Really like what I've seen from this Zaitsev kid so far.
As for some other low key ads in FA this summer due to our crazy cap complications....
David Booth
Max Lapierre
Lee Stempniak
Matt Irwin
Torrey Mitchell
Shawn Matthias
Michael Ryder
Tomas Kopecky
Marc Arcobello
Viktor Tikhonov (apparently eyeing an NHL return for next year)
Dan Sexton (same)
With the exception of maybe Matthias and Ryder, I don't think anybody here will be crazy expensive. Irwin is the only D man and we don't have a huge need at forward, so just spit balling some ideas here.
I really like the idea of Sexton, Irwin, Arcobello, Mitchell, or Booth. All guys with elements to their games we could use. Ryder is an intriguing add to play in the top 6 for (probably) cheap; ton of skill and a proven scorer.
Looking through potential back-ups for Mason.....yikes
has to suck for Hexy that B Schenn is being scratched - vejim
I know right? Call it the Crosby effect. He skips the tourney and it's a whole other ballgame. Makes you wonder if McClellan is really considering the Flyers. You can make an argument to at least play Schenn in a couple of the games.
If they take Crouse at 7 I'd be okay but I'd MUCH RATHER have Meier. I haven't gotten to Barzal yet. Who knows how I'll feel after watching a dozen of his games. Jsaq loves him. He's no dummy and I trust him and OB. They've been watching all season. I usually start late February and back watch games. I catch a lot of WHL games because of my schedule but I mostly concentrated on Calgary and Kelowna. I didn't see Barzal or Provorov much before the playoffs.
Honestly I'm hoping Hanifin takes a dive and we can somehow move the Tampa pick up into a position to take a forward but not Merkley or Zacha. - mayorofangrytown
Really like what I've seen from this Zaitsev kid so far.
As for some other low key ads in FA this summer due to our crazy cap complications....
David Booth
Max Lapierre Lee Stempniak
Matt Irwin Torrey Mitchell
Shawn Matthias
Michael Ryder
Tomas Kopecky Marc Arcobello
Viktor Tikhonov (apparently eyeing an NHL return for next year)
Dan Sexton (same)
With the exception of maybe Matthias and Ryder, I don't think anybody here will be crazy expensive. Irwin is the only D man and we don't have a huge need at forward, so just spit balling some ideas here.
I really like the idea of Sexton, Irwin, Arcobello, Mitchell, or Booth. All guys with elements to their games we could use. Ryder is an intriguing add to play in the top 6 for (probably) cheap; ton of skill and a proven scorer.
Looking through potential back-ups for Mason.....yikes - mochoson
I think all three of those guys could help us out.
So, we were talking about a sensor-based puck yesterday in light of the Calgary no-goal from the other night. I spent way too much time thinking about it, and concluded that it's a foolish thing to do, as puck orientation throws a few variables into the equation that the NHL could never keep up with.
So, I was thinking about using an EMI field. Now, I'm no electrical engineer, but the idea would be to put a very thin circle of copper wire at some distance from the outer diameter of the puck, that distance being half of the puck thickness (the wire would also be placed at the middle of the puck thickness). You then have some sort of calibrated device that can measure current or some sort of signal that will increase as more of the wire comes into contact with it (this detector would have to have area, not a single line). Once the puck crosses the goal line, it will emit a strong enough field that the pre-calibrated goal detector will be programmed to.
Or you could use a similar idea of a small aluminum wire and use some sort of metal sensor pointing from the ice upward. - jmatchett383
Non-engineer here but that is exactly what I was thinking about yesterday.
But wouldn't you need two of these wires? With the puck laying flat you'd need one at the bottom of the puck and one at the top. I think this would give full coverage no matter the orientation of the puck when it crossed the line. Then all the ice sensor thingy (again, non-engineer here lol) has to do is be able to detect when the puck is completely over the line.
