Trading for him pre July is moronic. I also don't really see the need for him. Yes he's good, and would make us better, but at this point we have quite a few two way players with above average talent.

Girgensons
Reinhart
Larsson

If I'm Murray, I'm looking for a pure goal scorer to make a move for
- sbroads24

I can't believe we are crowning Reinhart and especially Larsson as achieving 2 way players and as reasons not to try get one of the best two way players in the game. Often your mindet reminds me of how Darcy thought. Stay the course, keep the corps together. Murray could get a goal scorer and ROR. You win with players like ROR, it's not all about statistics.

I have no problem getting him as long as it's not a massive overpay and they extend him

this team needs to upgrade the top 6 up front and top 4 d men (4 bodies total)

he fits one of those slots
- homiedclown

I agree, he is someone you build a team with.

maybe more

I am all for trading quantity for quality at this point
- homiedclown

Nikita Kucherov
Ondrej Palat
Tyler Johnson

Where would Tampa be if they moved all these guys for one player 2 years ago?

They also had a stockpile of picks and we're able to land a key piece in Coburn at the deadline

People need to calm down on trading all of these propects. Some will be Better than the guys we want to trade them for

I can't believe we are crowning Reinhart and especially Larsson as achieving 2 way players and as reasons not to try get one of the best two way players in the game. Often your mindet reminds me of how Darcy thought. Stay the course, keep the corps together. Murray could get a goal scorer and ROR. You win with players like ROR, it's not all about statistics.
- GilPerreault11

Really? What has O'Reilly "won" so far that you are crowning him a winner. I haven't seen him win a playoff round, or represent team Canada. Unless I'm missing something

I agree, he is someone you build a team with.
- GilPerreault11

It's time we stop settling for the Steve Bernier's of the NHL, enough with the signing of useless players because of the incompetent thinking of Darcy Regier. We now have that ability and freedom to make the changes that we only see other teams going after.

Really? What has O'Reilly "won" so far that you are crowning him a winner. I haven't seen him win a playoff round, or represent team Canada. Unless I'm missing something
- sbroads24

Because you like most everyone else is happy to sign more 3rd line players so we don't have to give up all the young so called " superstars " we have.

Nikita Kucherov
Ondrej Palat
Tyler Johnson

Where would Tampa be if they moved all these guys for one player 2 years ago?

They also had a stockpile of picks and we're able to land a key piece in Coburn at the deadline

People need to calm down on trading all of these propects. Some will be Better than the guys we want to trade them for
- sbroads24

you are really going to be an unhappy person if Murray makes the moves he wants to make.

Also, since when is he one of the best two way players in the game?

Toews
Bergeron
Kopitar
Datsyuk
Kesler


Is ROR at that level at all?

Nikita Kucherov
Ondrej Palat
Tyler Johnson

Where would Tampa be if they moved all these guys for one player 2 years ago?

They also had a stockpile of picks and we're able to land a key piece in Coburn at the deadline

People need to calm down on trading all of these propects. Some will be Better than the guys we want to trade them for
- sbroads24

what prospects ? the ones that still haven't shown anything.

Because you like most everyone else is happy to sign more 3rd line players so we don't have to give up all the young so called " superstars " we have.
- SABRES 89

No, I said I'd rather get a pure goal scorer. Not another version of Girgensons

No, I said I'd rather get a pure goal scorer. Not another version of Girgensons
- sbroads24

What pure goal scorer is there ? Kessel would never make it here and has a horrible contract.

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m2 minutes ago
Just as they were with Rex Ryan, Kim and Terry Pegula are front and center with Babcock. Murray of course involved too.

What pure goal scorer is there ? Kessel would never make it here and has a horrible contract.
- SABRES 89

So then make a minor deal for someone else.

O'Reilly is a UFA after 2015. He's not reliable to trade for before July anyways

Also, since when is he one of the best two way players in the game?

Toews
Bergeron
Kopitar
Datsyuk
Kesler


Is ROR at that level at all?
- sbroads24

You might want to check the stats.

If this is anything but a rhetorical question, you'll be surprised.

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m2 minutes ago
Just as they were with Rex Ryan, Kim and Terry Pegula are front and center with Babcock. Murray of course involved too.
- Punch70

Not holding my breath, but

So then make a minor deal for someone else.

O'Reilly is a UFA after 2015. He's not reliable to trade for before July anyways
- sbroads24

Unless the Avs give the Sabres permission to negotiate an extension...

You might want to check the stats.

If this is anything but a rhetorical question, you'll be surprised.
- Der Kaiser

He played 2nd line RW for a non playoff team, had a pretty bad first half of the season, it was rethorical, he isn't that good yet

Nikita Kucherov
Ondrej Palat
Tyler Johnson

Where would Tampa be if they moved all these guys for one player 2 years ago?

They also had a stockpile of picks and we're able to land a key piece in Coburn at the deadline

People need to calm down on trading all of these propects. Some will be Better than the guys we want to trade them for
- sbroads24

aside from maybe gringo or larsson, I do not see a Nikita Kucherov,Ondrej Palat or Tyler Johnson in rochester or the ncaa

It's time we stop settling for the Steve Bernier's of the NHL, enough with the signing of useless players because of the incompetent thinking of Darcy Regier. We now have that ability and freedom to make the changes that we only see other teams going after.
- SABRES 89

He played 2nd line RW for a non playoff team, had a pretty bad first half of the season, it was rethorical, he isn't that good yet
- sbroads24

He had 18 goals and 55 points his 3rd full season, and 28 goals, 64 points his fourth FULL season.

Slow start last year? So (frank)ing what? Plenty of players - from superstars to 4th line plumbers - have slow starts.

Let's not act like he's some slouch here just because he's not Toews, Bergeron or Kopitar. We don't need him to be. We'll have Eichel and super Sam.

aside from maybe gringo or larsson, I do not see a Nikita Kucherov,Ondrej Palat or Tyler Johnson in rochester or the ncaa
- homiedclown

Tampa fans would have said the same thing two years ago.

Nick Baptiste
Jake McCabe
Justin Bailey
JT Compher

They could all be very good.

He had 18 goals and 55 points his 3rd full season, and 28 goals, 64 points his fourth FULL season.

Slow start last year? So (frank)ing what? Plenty of players - from superstars to 4th line plumbers - have slow starts.

Let's not act like he's some slouch here just because he's not Toews, Bergeron or Kopitar. We don't need him to be. We'll have Eichel and super Sam.
- grand-magus

No one said slouch. He's a very good top 6 player. But he's not a superstar, and he's got a year left until he's a UFA

aside from maybe gringo or larsson, I do not see a Nikita Kucherov,Ondrej Palat or Tyler Johnson in rochester or the ncaa
- homiedclown

Not sure anyone saw those 3 ever playing this well, maybe Kucherov but probably not the other two.

Not sure anyone saw those 3 ever playing this well, maybe Kucherov but probably not the other two.
- BigStew

Right on

aside from maybe gringo or larsson, I do not see a Nikita Kucherov,Ondrej Palat or Tyler Johnson in rochester or the ncaa
- homiedclown

Could get one with the other 1st, increase your odds if you move up.