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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 10:51 PM ET
Difference between Bergeron and O'Reilly there is that Bergeron's numbers are posted in a down year for him. For O'Reilly, that's about as good as you are going to get.
- buffalofan19

**Cherry picked stats 101***
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

May 10 @ 10:51 PM ET
1 year ago

"Ryan O'Reilly is money hungry and not that good"

Hey Tim Murray likes Ryan O'Reilly

"Ryan O'Reilly is super awesome"

- sbroads24


It's all in the stats man. If he can't score in NHL15 then we don't want him!!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 10:53 PM ET
**Cherry picked stats 101***
- sbroads24


That being said, Bergeron is also six years older, and will be 30 this year. How many more years does he have left at that kind of level? And what kind of shape is Boston in going forward?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

May 10 @ 10:54 PM ET
**Cherry picked stats 101***
- sbroads24

They seemed pretty representative to me ... If you have others that say you're right I'll consider them.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 10:54 PM ET
It's all in the stats man. If he can't score in NHL15 then we don't want him!!
- GilPerreault11

Ryan O'Reilly is a good player.


.......he also is a UFA after next season, and plays a similar style of hockey that a few players we have already do.

I know people are blinded by any big name floated out there because this is Buffalo and we have lacked good players for so long, but seriously, it's not even a fit. Not to mention, no team is trading Patrice Bergeron 2.0
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 10:58 PM ET
Ryan O'Reilly is a good player.


.......he also is a UFA after next season, and plays a similar style of hockey that a few players we have already do.

I know people are blinded by any big name floated out there because this is Buffalo and we have lacked good players for so long, but seriously, it's not even a fit. Not to mention, no team is trading Patrice Bergeron 2.0

- sbroads24

We don't have any players that play a 50 point season style.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:02 PM ET
We don't have any players that play a 50 point season style.
- Der Kaiser

So we lunge at the 1st one that might be available?

Maybe if he's signed before we trade for him
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 11:04 PM ET
So we lunge at the 1st one that might be available?

Maybe if he's signed before we trade for him

- sbroads24


That's the ticket.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

May 10 @ 11:05 PM ET
Ryan O'Reilly is a good player.


.......he also is a UFA after next season, and plays a similar style of hockey that a few players we have already do.

I know people are blinded by any big name floated out there because this is Buffalo and we have lacked good players for so long, but seriously, it's not even a fit. Not to mention, no team is trading Patrice Bergeron 2.0

- sbroads24


First of all the Sabres aren't going to deal or shouldn't deal for him unless they get a deal for him in place or they trade contingent on signing him, meaning it gets bigger if they sign him.

2nd I know there are people on here, you being a primary one, who looks at stats as the primary value of a player example Tyler Myers.

ROR doesn't have that big of a name but he does here because of all the trade rumors but he is sound offensively, defensively and is a character guy, someone you want to build teams with and have in tight playoff games that we are watching now. Some people don't realize that and you seem to be one of them. It's big numbers, big stats and those are not all the players you build a team with. I'm sorry Johan Larsson is not in his league and we'll see what Reinhart brings to the table.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 11:07 PM ET
Why does everybody think that if we get ROR we won't be able to sign him to a long term deal or he will walk ?
Der Kaiser
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May 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
Why does everybody think that if we get ROR we won't be able to sign him to a long term deal or he will walk ?
- SABRES 89

7 yrs $50Mill
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
First of all the Sabres aren't going to deal or shouldn't deal for him unless they get a deal for him in place or they trade contingent on signing him, meaning it gets bigger if they sign him.

2nd I know there are people on here, you being a primary one, who looks at stats as the primary value of a player example Tyler Myers.

ROR doesn't have that big of a name but he does here because of all the trade rumors but he is sound offensively, defensively and is a character guy, someone you want to build teams with and have in tight playoff games that we are watching now. Some people don't realize that and you seem to be one of them. It's big numbers, big stats and those are not all the players you build a team with. I'm sorry Johan Larsson is not in his league and we'll see what Reinhart brings to the table.

- GilPerreault11

And I will again ask, what has all of his character, and sound defensive play won Colorado that says he's a must have player?

Also, I actually used the opposite of stats to defend Myers for years, because he had bad ones when this team was bad.

SABRES 89
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May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
7 yrs $50Mill
- Der Kaiser

Who's to say but i'm sure it will be 6 or more
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
Ryan O'Reilly is a good player.


.......he also is a UFA after next season, and plays a similar style of hockey that a few players we have already do.

I know people are blinded by any big name floated out there because this is Buffalo and we have lacked good players for so long, but seriously, it's not even a fit. Not to mention, no team is trading Patrice Bergeron 2.0

- sbroads24

Is ROR a big name player? I don't understand why he gets so much hate in here. He's the type of player Sabres fans usually like.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:13 PM ET
Is ROR a big name player? I don't understand why he gets so much hate in here. He's the type of player Sabres fans usually like.
- Pierceme69

I hate the idea of trading for him.

Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 10 @ 11:14 PM ET
I hate the idea of trading for him.
- sbroads24

Because of what you think it will take to acquire him?
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
Is ROR a big name player? I don't understand why he gets so much hate in here. He's the type of player Sabres fans usually like.
- Pierceme69

Because nobody wants to give up any so called " superstars " we have in the minors.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
Because nobody wants to give up any so called " superstars " we have in the minors.
- SABRES 89

If O'Reilly is so godly, it will take much more than AHL players to trade for him
SABRES 89
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May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
If O'Reilly is so godly, it will take much more than AHL players to trade for him
- sbroads24

You need to let it go
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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May 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
Because of what you think it will take to acquire him?
- Pierceme69

Yes, then the contract you have to give him.

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

May 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
And I will again ask, what has all of his character, and sound defensive play won Colorado that says he's a must have player?

Also, I actually used the opposite of stats to defend Myers for years, because he had bad ones when this team was bad.

- sbroads24


You always pointed out his good couple of years, his TOI and ignored how attrocious he was in his own end at times, lack of physical play, leadership, passing. When he got to the Jets it was how many points he got that night.

I'm not saying he's a must have player but I'm countering your argument Murray would be a "moron" if he traded for him and that Larrson and Reinhart are the two-way players we already have besides Girgensons, and so we don't need him.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
If O'Reilly is so godly, it will take much more than AHL players to trade for him
- sbroads24

The trade I've seen most often suggested is Grigs, Zadorov, and the Isles 1st. What do you hate about that deal?
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
Yes, then the contract you have to give him.
- sbroads24

What do you think is a fair contract for him?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
You need to let it go
- SABRES 89

Let what go? Your logic is weird

Our prospects are garbage, but they would be enough to get O'Reilly, the golden god himself.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
I hate the idea of trading for him.
- sbroads24

Kopitar 16g, 48a, 64pts; 53fo%, 29takeaways

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