I have a hard time accepting Higgins is part of or should be considered part of the core. I am in denial.

Last season, I was impressed with how the team performed with all the injuries on defence. The same thing has to happen next season, put other players in different roles and give them an opportunity to make mistakes, learn and develop.

The reason I think Higgins should be moved is to open up opportunities for other players to play on the 2nd line and 2nd pp. But if I was JB, I'd want to keep him for the 3rd or 4th line and pk.

Is everyone, ever on the same page?
- hillbillydeluxe

The big problem is how they were pushed around against Calgary. That was embarrassing.

The big problem is how they were pushed around against Calgary. That was embarrassing.
- VanHockeyGuy

Kerby Rychel

Kerby Rychel
- chompsey

I all for something like that. Trade Hamhuis, he has one year left on his deal.

I all for something like that. Trade Hamhuis, he has one year left on his deal.
- VanHockeyGuy

IMHO, hamhuis is worth a lot more than Rychel....

Something to be said how Pat Quinn and Brian Burke have always envisioned a team being tough, not only big.

IMHO, hamhuis is worth a lot more than Rychel....
- chompsey

If we could get a first for Hamhuis and a 3rd for Bieksa, to me that would be a big win.

If we could get a first for Hamhuis and a 3rd for Bieksa, to me that would be a big win.
- VanHockeyGuy

If we get a first fro Hammer. Its in the 20's

If we could get a first for Hamhuis and a 3rd for Bieksa, to me that would be a big win.
- VanHockeyGuy

President's Trophy big?

The big problem is how they were pushed around against Calgary. That was embarrassing.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yep.

I was just trying to say, when we had those injuries on defence and we were using guys like Biega and Clandening, I thought we did okay to pretty good. The team has to be willing to give other players opportunities and allow them to make mistakes and not be benched for it.

They want to keep making the playoffs, that is fine. But if they want to sell change and hope, they have to give other players opportunities on the pp and in bigger roles.

Even the least informed Canuck fan catches on after a while. Same players, same roles, same results.

I still can't fathom how Sanguinetti never got a chance on the pp with the Canucks with his production in Utica.

But yeah, we have to get more grit and physicality in the lineup from players that will bring it every game.

If we get a first fro Hammer. Its in the 20's
- vancity787

Book it.

2-0 canada

Something to be said how Pat Quinn and Brian Burke have always envisioned a team being tough, not only big.
- VanHockeyGuy

Tough players are what van needs and no they don't need to be big, they just need players that have skilled and grit.

Yep.

I was just trying to say, when we had those injuries on defence and we were using guys like Biega and Clandening, I thought we did okay to pretty good. The team has to be willing to give other players opportunities and allow them to make mistakes and not be benched for it.

They want to keep making the playoffs, that is fine. But if they want to sell change and hope, they have to give other players opportunities on the pp and in bigger roles.

Even the least informed Canuck fan catches on after a while. Same players, same roles, same results.

I still can't fathom how Sanguinetti never got a chance on the pp with the Canucks with his production in Utica.

But yeah, we have to get more grit and physicality in the lineup from players that will bring it every game.
- hillbillydeluxe

Is what most of us expect, I'm all for the youth movement, and sacrificing the playoffs for a few years in order to fix things properly.

Tough players are what van needs and no they don't need to be big, they just need players that have skilled and grit.
- manvanfan

The one that got away. Not a brilliant player. But was not utilized properly while here and would look great in the bottom six.

Maybe its just me.

Tough players are what van needs and no they don't need to be big, they just need players that have skilled and grit.
- manvanfan

Hopefully that's the philosophy.

The one that got away. Not a brilliant player. But was not utilized properly while here and would look great in the bottom six.

Maybe its just me.
- vancity787

that was a (frank) up

Hopefully that's the philosophy.
- VanHockeyGuy

Well I'd like a bit of everything but we have size in Kassian and Mathias, everybody can see how tough those two are.

Well I'd like a bit of everything but we have size in Kassian and Mathias, everybody can see how tough those two are.
- manvanfan

Problem is they only pick their spots when they decide to use their size. No consistancy whatsoever..

Well I'd like a bit of everything but we have size in Kassian and Mathias, everybody can see how tough those two are.
- manvanfan

Very strong possibility neither of those two will be with the team next year. That's why I'm questioning their philosophy.

Would you

Edler Virtanen and our 1st for Aaron Ekblad

Kid is an absolutely stud and would be a corner stone on any cup contender in a few years. Personally I would not sure if Florida would

Would you

Edler Virtanen and our 1st for Aaron Ekblad

Kid is an absolutely stud and would be a corner stone on any cup contender in a few years. Personally I would not sure if Florida would
- The_Kuze

Sure, leave out JV

Would edm and pit ever consider Crosby for mcdavid?

Sure, leave out JV
- VanHockeyGuy

The one thing that impressed me from JV watching him in the Juniors is not really his skill set. Which is exceptional. But I liked more of the fact he used his body and frequently pissed people off after the whistle. He possess's exceptional skill and loves to mix it up. Something this team sorely needs.

Would edm and pit ever consider Crosby for mcdavid?
- manvanfan

Thats called stupid.

Would edm and pit ever consider Crosby for mcdavid?
- manvanfan

No way from either team.