The horse was pronounced dead hours ago
- funmaster18

There's a report that the Flyers also spoke to Benoit Groulx about their head coaching job. Sure seems like Hextall focused on developmental guys, and not guys who are more guys you'd hire to get over the hump to take a shot at a Cup
- Jsaquella

nobody with a name like this is going to be a head coach here.

I think it's likely after 30 you won't find guys like these. At least not often.
- SuperSchennBros

Flyers have two. Streit & Schultz.

he's okay
def not the problem
- -davies-

Agreed -- he could've been most improved, for my money

PK looked like it belonged in the NHL when he and Bellemare got on it

I'm thinking Grossman gets moved at the draft. Doesn't sound like Hakstol's cup of tea at all.

Agreed -- he could've been most improved, for my money

PK looked like it belonged in the NHL when he and Bellemare got on it
- AllInForFlyers

VDV is a plus from last year, not a minus. A small plus but I had very little issue with the guy.

nobody with a name like this is going to be a head coach here.
- hammarby31

Flyers have a growing French posse

I'm thinking Grossman gets moved at the draft. Doesn't sound like Hakstol's cup of tea at all.
- hereticpride

I hear you, but I do kinda agree with where SSB's taking this -- do you just purge every guy who isn't the best skater right now now now, even if they do a ton of things better than some of the other guys you have on your roster?

Grossmann has limitations. Yes. But be honest: If it's the last 60 seconds of a game and you're up by a goal and you gotta have two points, would you rather have Grossmann or MacDonald out there?

Flyers have two. Streit & Schultz.
- Jsaquella

You're right! We also traded a bad skating Hartnell for a player we specifically expected to improve our speed in Umberger. As a defenseman Mark Streit is a poor defensive player and seeing how Schultz ended up here and was expected to be our 7th defenseman, I think his play could go either way. It had been a number of seasons prior to coming here since Nick Schultz was good. I don't expect a repeat at all.

Hakstol's first line of business what to do with Rinaldo

Hakstol's first line of business what to do with Rinaldo
- ob18

Rinaldo is headed to the Valley

Hakstol's first line of business what to do with Rinaldo
- ob18

I'm sure he knows a mule or two out in North Dakota that could use a break on the plow.

Hell, the plow could probably use a break too.

Hakstol's first line of business what to do with Rinaldo
- ob18

Sign White today and get Rinaldo to the minors!!

Sign White today and get Rinaldo to the minors!!
- SuperSchennBros

ad block is a wonderful thing.
- hammarby31

Pfft...that's amateur hour stuff. Capt. Eo took care of it the right way.

Let me know if you need anything done around here. I know a guy.

You're right! We also traded a bad skating Hartnell for a player we specifically expected to improve our speed in Umberger. As a defenseman Mark Streit is a poor defensive player and seeing how Schultz ended up here and was expected to be our 7th defenseman, I think his play could go either way. It had been a number of seasons prior to coming here since Nick Schultz was good. I don't expect a repeat at all.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't either, but those are the kind of players Hakstol's system will need. not plodding guys who are poor passers like Grossmann, not slower guys who have difficulty reading plays like Schenn.

Age really has nothing to do with it. A guy like Brian Campbell would be an example of the kind of guy that could thrive under the system Hakstol ran at UND. Guys like Alexander Edler or Trevor Daly seem like they'd be good fits.

I don't think they'll abandon bigger defensemen, but I do think that it's going to have to be a bigger dude who can skate and move the puck well.

Not sure how a trade made 11 months before Hakstol was hired has any bearing on the discussion, but the Umberger trade isn't about defensemen or age-Hartnell is roughly the same age as Umberger. In terms of that being a bad trade or not...really doesn't have anything to do with Umberger being a better skater. Umberger is a guy who seems to be in decline and who was injured from the get go, while Hartnell was healthy and still playing well.

Pfft...that's amateur hour stuff. Capt. Eo took care of it the right way.

Let me know if you need anything done around here. I know a guy.
- Scoob

i honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't either, but those are the kind of players Hakstol's system will need. not plodding guys who are poor passers like Grossmann, not slower guys who have difficulty reading plays like Schenn.

Age really has nothing to do with it. A guy like Brian Campbell would be an example of the kind of guy that could thrive under the system Hakstol ran at UND. Guys like Alexander Edler or Trevor Daly seem like they'd be good fits.

I don't think they'll abandon bigger defensemen, but I do think that it's going to have to be a bigger dude who can skate and move the puck well.

Not sure how a trade made 11 months before Hakstol was hired has any bearing on the discussion, but the Umberger trade isn't about defensemen or age-Hartnell is roughly the same age as Umberger. In terms of that being a bad trade or not...really doesn't have anything to do with Umberger being a better skater. Umberger is a guy who seems to be in decline and who was injured from the get go, while Hartnell was healthy and still playing well.
- Jsaquella

Umberger was brought here specifically in mind of being a better skater and adds to the speed of the team. Not the case though. Thirty-two years of age.

#OneSixEleven

#OneSixEleven
- PhillySportsGuy

They'll be picking 8th

They'll be picking 8th
- ob18

Literally impossible

Literally impossible
- PhillySportsGuy

Literally impossible
- PhillySportsGuy

Okay

Good Lord -- the Draft Lottery is ridiculously overproduced

Okay
- ob18

No matter what, they will draft Russell