I agree with that, but I don't think Laviolette loved JVR, either
- AllInForFlyers

jvr fit his system pretty good if you ask me

Wow -- Kimmo took a beating on the ice and in the studio. Yikes

I think this guy wants nothing to do with the 3 musketeers Gudas, Grossman, Schenn. Really cant see this guy moving on from UND to waste his time on these guys. I think one guy stays (or another goes to LHV)
- Just5

I think the new coach will coach the guys he's given. I don't see him showing up and making demands or telling the GM what players he wants and doesn't want. Hextall knows what the strengths and weaknesses of this team is, and where he needs to upgrade. Good coaches let the GM deal with that, and worry about how to get the best out of the team he's given.

jvr fit his system pretty good if you ask me
- JoeRussomanno

For whatever reason, though, he kept his minutes down and kept him on the third line -- granted, Hartnell was a beast for Laviolette, but at the same time, I don't think Homer was the only one who didn't like how long JVR was hurt

That's the difference between college and the pros, though -- you can't just rescind the final years of the contracts of these guys. Somebody still has to take them if you don't want them

Yes, I absolutely believe you can trade at least one of them, but you can't just move money every single time a signing goes sour and your system doesn't fit -- remember, that was the downfall of Laviolette
- AllInForFlyers

Well, All three of Gudas, Grossmann and Schenn are entering the last year of their contracts, which will help if the Flyers decide to deal them.

Hextall seems to be onboard with Hakstol's plans, though and if they agree that they need to jettison the slower, less capable with the puck types, Hextall will likely be shopping them.

I think somebody would have interest in at least one or two of them. You can win with guys like that on the roster, you just don't want to have a bunch of them dressing on a regular basis.

Maybe they'll put training wheels on the Cup as he carries it around
- PhillySportsGuy

He'll be lifting his oxygen tank

Well, All three of Gudas, Grossmann and Schenn are entering the last year of their contracts, which will help if the Flyers decide to deal them.

Hextall seems to be onboard with Hakstol's plans, though and if they agree that they need to jettison the slower, less capable with the puck types, Hextall will likely be shopping them.

I think somebody would , you just don't want to have a bunch of them dressing on a regular basis.
- Jsaquella

I'm pretty sure Schenn and Grossmann have value, probably a mid round pick. In particular, Luke's a righty and has shown with the right partner to play a pretty decent stay at home game.

I'm really interested to see the term MDZ gets resigned.

I don't see it as Hextall is on board with Hakstol's plan, it's the other way around. Hakstol is on board with Hextall's plan. If Hakstol didn't fit in and have the same vision of how the game is played, and how the team should be molded going forward, Hextall wouldn't have hired him. Hextall isn't going to change his vision or his plan, based on what the new coach thinks. Hextall is in charge of player personnel.

I think the new coach will coach the guys he's given. I don't see him showing up and making demands or telling the GM what players he wants and doesn't want. Hextall knows what the strengths and weaknesses of this team is, and where he needs to upgrade. Good coaches let the GM deal with that, and worry about how to get the best out of the team he's given.
- MJL

Not if you're Mike Babcock. Mike Babcock tells the GM what to do. MIKE BABCOCK

I'm pretty sure Schenn and Grossmann have value, probably a mid round pick. In particular, Luke's a righty and has shown with the right partner to play a pretty decent stay at home game.

I'm really interested to see the term MDZ gets resigned.
- ravishingone

I'm sure they could flip all three for picks, if Hextall is so inclined. MDZ will be an interesting negotiation. He might end up taking a shorter term deal, but if he has a good season next year, he could command a bigger contract. If they give him extra years now, they're rolling the dice that he'll repeat what he did last season.

I'm sure they could flip all three for picks, if Hextall is so inclined. MDZ will be an interesting negotiation. He might end up taking a shorter term deal, but if he has a good season next year, he could command a bigger contract. If they give him extra years now, they're rolling the dice that he'll repeat what he did last season.
- Jsaquella

Go with the 1 year deal if the numbers are something they can live with go 2 maybe, maybe 3 years. But I'd like to unload somebody on defense first.

Was there really a point to the non-reply reply? For (frank)'s sake, all he did was paraphrase what I typed.

One hand clapping

Of course the GM is going to hire a coach who has a similar vision to his for the team.

I'm pretty sure Schenn and Grossmann have value, probably a mid round pick. In particular, Luke's a righty and has shown with the right partner to play a pretty decent stay at home game.

I'm really interested to see the term MDZ gets resigned.
- ravishingone

Luke Schenn has negative trade value this summer. Grossman should get you a mid round pick I agree.

Go with the 1 year deal if the numbers are something they can live with go 2 maybe, maybe 3 years. But I'd like to unload somebody on defense first.
- ob18

I'd like to go 2 years, but the Flyers are in the driver's seat short term. Can't see Del Zotto getting an offer sheet, so he'd eventually have to agree to the Flyers' offer or risk losing a season of NHL play and exposure right before he hits UFA.

I'm just thinking beyond 2015-16. If he comes in and has a really good season, on a one year deal, it could create a bit of a bidding war for his services.

Definitely will have to shed bodies on D. No question.

Luke Schenn has negative trade value this summer. Grossman should get you a mid round pick I agree.
- Just5

I don't think he does. I think they could move him for a third, if they really just wanted to dump him. Short term left, can be OK if used with a solid partner. Tolerable salary for a third pair banger.

Was there really a point to the non-reply reply? For (frank)'s sake, all he did was paraphrase what I typed.

One hand clapping

Of course the GM is going to hire a coach who has a similar vision for the team.
- Jsaquella

I guess we were supposed to take from it that, indeed, a hiring manager got all crazy and actually hired a guy who he felt was a good fit for what he wanted to do -- because yeah

This board is crazy sometimes

I'd like to go 2 years, but the Flyers are in the driver's seat short term. Can't see Del Zotto getting an offer sheet, so he'd eventually have to agree to the Flyers' offer or risk losing a season of NHL play and exposure right before he hits UFA.

I'm just thinking beyond 2015-16. If he comes in and has a really good season, on a one year deal, it could create a bit of a bidding war for his services.

Definitely will have to shed bodies on D. No question.
- Jsaquella

I'd be fine with 2 years.....If their prospects continue to develop I'm not sure it's needed to go beyond that unless the numbers are good for the Flyers.

I guess we were supposed to take from it that, indeed, a hiring manager got all crazy and actually hired a guy who he felt was a good fit for what he wanted to do -- because yeah

This board is crazy sometimes
- AllInForFlyers

I, the GM, want a mobile team defense. Jim, the new coach, wants 6 Nick Grossmanns.

WHO WILL WIN?!?!?!

Luke Schenn has negative trade value this summer. Grossman should get you a mid round pick I agree.
- Just5

I don't always love the guy, but you can get a pick for him from somebody

He'll be lifting his oxygen tank
- funmaster18

lol

I, the GM, want a mobile team defense. Jim, the new coach, wants 6 Nick Grossmanns.

WHO WILL WIN?!?!?!
- Jsaquella

Two men enter, one man leaves

Two men enter, one man leaves
- AllInForFlyers

Unfortunately it's going to be me. I have to travel from Cape May to Wilkes Barre tomorrow and I have to iron my suit pants and dress shirt, shine my shoes and pack my PJ's because the wife says we're leaving at 7:30

I guess we were supposed to take from it that, indeed, a hiring manager got all crazy and actually hired a guy who he felt was a good fit for what he wanted to do -- because yeah

This board is crazy sometimes
- AllInForFlyers

That missed the point really. Stating that Hextall is on board with Hakstol's plan is simply backwards, and I think that is an important distinction. If we want to talk about posts that really have no relevant point, the post you replied to, is a perfect example of that.

Go with the 1 year deal if the numbers are something they can live with go 2 maybe, maybe 3 years. But I'd like to unload somebody on defense first.
- ob18

I still think two years is the better bet; remains to be seen how any of them will play under Hakstol, but if you are looking to move some of the less mobile defensemen, somebody needs to play and Del Zotto showed he could

Not saying they have to get crazy, but two years isn't gonna keep them from doing anything they want to do

Unfortunately it's going to be me. I have to travel from Cape May to Wilkes Barre tomorrow and I have to iron my suit pants and dress shirt, shine my shoes and pack my PJ's because the wife says we're leaving at 7:30
- Jsaquella

I'm assuming this is for the loss in the family