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Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 5:21 PM ET
How do we know that the Sabres didn't play Toronto jut as much as Babs played Buffalo? I would only be pissed if Babs took significantly less than the rumored amount.
SabresNHL
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The image above shows how serious this season was taken, NY
Joined: 04.17.2014

May 20 @ 5:21 PM ET
If Torts was given a job here again, would it be more beneficial than having Bylsma or Richardson?
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:23 PM ET
If Torts was given a job here again, would it be more beneficial than having Bylsma or Richardson?
- SabresNHL



No.
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 20 @ 5:23 PM ET
How do we know that the Sabres didn't play Toronto jut as much as Babs played Buffalo? I would only be pissed if Babs took significantly less than the rumored amount.
- Buffalo--Sabres

because it's being reporte. By many, that the sabres thought they had a done deal.
SabresNHL
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The image above shows how serious this season was taken, NY
Joined: 04.17.2014

May 20 @ 5:24 PM ET
No.
- DynamicThreads

Only thing I can think of is more disciplined players. If he follows his reputation, of course.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 20 @ 5:25 PM ET
*Turns on NHL 15*

*Starts a new Be A GM Mode*

*Picks Detroit*

*Fires Babcock*

ahhh... you're god damn RIGHT!!!

- JVince11

DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:25 PM ET
We dodged a bullet. This is a blessing in disguise. Toronto will not win a cup. Babcock inherited the greatest coach of all time's roster and was the coach for the most consistent, well managed sports team in North America.

Good (frank)ing luck in Toronto, BabRichard.

I said yesterday (or the day before) that all the circus surrounding this poope made me prefer he went elsewhere. I'm not upset in the least he isn't our coach.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 20 @ 5:26 PM ET
I don't think TO goes full rebuild, or Babcock wouldn't have signed. They committed to a tank last year after being in 8th place in December to finishing in 27th with hopes to improve their chances of winning the lottery. Now, they hire the most sought after coach since Bowman and do a complete 180 in the process.

He obviously only wanted the money. I don't see where a coach gets off having such a large say in personnel decisions. Apply for the (frank)ing GM position, then.

- DynamicThreads

What if the new GM wants his own coach ?
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:26 PM ET
Only thing I can think of is more disciplined players. If he follows his reputation, of course.
- SabresNHL


His NYR teams were underachievers and he did poop-all in Vancouver. No thanks. It'd be like hiring Barry Melrose.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
What if the new GM wants his own coach ?
- cabin



Not sure what you mean? What if the incoming GM for Toronto wants someone other than Babcock? If that's the case, I'm sure the GM is hired knowing he has no say and that he is on the same page.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 20 @ 5:28 PM ET
Do you think that Babcock will want to trade Kessel or Phaneuf now?
- rmiethaner

I'd think so. I can't imagine Mike being the only person in the industry that thinks you can win with Phil and Dion.
SabresNHL
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The image above shows how serious this season was taken, NY
Joined: 04.17.2014

May 20 @ 5:28 PM ET
His NYR teams were underachievers and he did poop-all in Vancouver. No thanks. It'd be like hiring Barry Melrose.
- DynamicThreads

I wouldn't mind him as an assistant. Would be worth it just to see him go into another team's locker room.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
Not sure what you mean? What if the incoming GM for Toronto wants someone other than Babcock? If that's the case, I'm sure the GM is hired knowing he has no say and that he is on the same page.
- DynamicThreads

not gonna be a easy situation imo. Too many chiefs
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:30 PM ET
I don't think TO goes full rebuild, or Babcock wouldn't have signed. They committed to a tank last year after being in 8th place in December to finishing in 27th with hopes to improve their chances of winning the lottery. Now, they hire the most sought after coach since Bowman and do a complete 180 in the process.

He obviously only wanted the money. I don't see where a coach gets off having such a large say in personnel decisions. Apply for the (frank)ing GM position, then.

- DynamicThreads

What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 5:30 PM ET
because it's being reporte. By many, that the sabres thought they had a done deal.
- ImNoTroll



I just think it's great they had to meet and exceed our terms.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 20 @ 5:30 PM ET
I have no idea who the next coach of the Sabres will be. Last year I was thinking Luke Richardson but we shall see, I don't think it will take long though.
- GilPerreault11


No AHL coach should be considered unless he got his team to the playoffs ever year.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 5:31 PM ET
What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?

- Feeling Glucky?


I pay approx 33%
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 20 @ 5:31 PM ET
I just think it's great they had to meet and exceed our terms.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:32 PM ET
What if the new GM wants his own coach ?
- cabin

The guys on TSN were saying he'd probably be consulted on the new GM


It's been speculated for a while that the Leafs GM wouldn't be a typical GM, but probably more of a middle man, handling the negotiations.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 20 @ 5:32 PM ET
No AHL coach should be considered unless he got his team to the playoffs ever year.
- bluengold12



IE, what Lance Leipold is to UB
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 20 @ 5:32 PM ET
I pay approx 33%
- Buffalo--Sabres

Still a considerable difference.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
so....6.5 million, huh? Is that how we get Scotty Bowman out of retirement?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 20 @ 5:34 PM ET
What's the tax rate in NY? ~9%?


The combined provincial/federal income tax here will nail him for just under 50%.


Think its all about the money?

- Feeling Glucky?

I pay 48 percent
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 20 @ 5:35 PM ET
IE, what Lance Leipold is to UB
- Buffalo--Sabres


Yes a proven winner anywhere is better than a loser who once had success somewhere else.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

May 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
not gonna be a easy situation imo. Too many chiefs
- cabin


I agree. I hope it blows up in their faces. I don't see where a coach gets off having a larger or just as much say in what the roster looks like. He's come across as a huge megalomaniac. FFS, the guy inherited a fantastic team in its prime, is 1 for 3 (I'd take those odds but still, he's no Scotty Bowman) in the stanley cup finals, and was mediocre almost every other year he was in the playoffs.

Ups our rivalry, though for the next 8 years.
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