depends who they keep.

Phaneuf's as good as gone, and Kessel is likely out the door already.

Team's not going anywhere without those two.
- Feeling Glucky?

In Wedgie's mind, I mean.

thanks! Love the class.



Can we have McDavid now?
- MCharisma91

Ahhhh nope

- clark_griswold

I want us to trade him...but I wouldn't be against keeping him. Maybe Babs can straighten him out..... My first choice is to trade him, no doubt..

And I still stand by that either Phaneuf OR Kessel are gone before or AT the draft.

depends who they keep.

Phaneuf's as good as gone, and Kessel is likely out the door already.

Team's not going anywhere without those two.
- Feeling Glucky?

Where did they go with them two?

@TSNBobMcKenzie: TOR not only NHL team interested in Boucher as head-coach candidate. Worth noting: DET/Babcock talked to Boucher about AC job last summer.

Relax and breathe, think clearly and logically. The answer is obviously no.
- Lee Denault

knee jerk reactions and leafs fans are like salt and pepper

Sean Burke - next goalie coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs

knee jerk reactions and leafs fans are like salt and pepper
- clark_griswold

its exhausting.

Seriously...do we keep these guys now? To see how it pans out? Dregs was saying it. Now I wonder. TBH, I'd keep Kessel. Sit that (frank)er down. Buy him a membership to Good Life. Put up banning posters at all McDonald's locations.

Trade Dion, Bozie, and Lupul (try to)
- MCharisma91

Kessel isn't going to suddenly change because of Mike Babcock... He is what he is man. The Leafs would do well to trade him for a high pick in this draft and just move on.

disagree.

2008 7th last
2009 7th last
2010 2nd last
2011 10th last
2012 5th last
2013....
2014 8th last
2015 4th last

we don't have more talent, we have always been bad. i can't understand why ppl say we are better than we finished. One year? sure. but not 7 out of 8 years. Team stinks, move on and start over
- clark_griswold

Which is exactly why the rebuild is actually farther along then you think. I can't wait for Babcocks first day with Gardiner, JVR and Kadri......and all the other underachieving young players. Kessel, Lupul and Dion can all go elsewhere though.

I want us to trade him...but I wouldn't be against keeping him. Maybe Babs can straighten him out..... My first choice is to trade him, no doubt..

And I still stand by that either Phaneuf OR Kessel are gone before or AT the draft.
- MCharisma91

hockey players rarely (i would say never but very rare cases like Danny Cleary) change. babcock isn't going to make phil kessel start caring or playing defense.

I want us to trade him...but I wouldn't be against keeping him. Maybe Babs can straighten him out..... My first choice is to trade him, no doubt..

And I still stand by that either Phaneuf OR Kessel are gone before or AT the draft.
- MCharisma91

you and literally everyone else.

Mike Babcock's task: Win Stanley Cup in 2017, which will be Leafs centennial and 50th anniversary of Toronto's most recent Cup
- Symba007

and the year they sign Stamkos

Nope. I think that if he didn't buy in to the Shanaplan then they'd have not given him this money.
- lumlums

It's not a 3 year contract. This is part of, not the end of, the 'shanaplan'.

Babcock will be a sign and trade.

Him and Pha9 to Detroit for somebody and no salary retained

You got that right, buddy!

No way he shows up for training camp like he did last year:

https://twitter.com/damos...status/514197460215160832
- Atomic Wedgie

for the Leafs or a different team?

Which is exactly why the rebuild is actually farther along then you think. I can't wait for Babcocks first day with Gardiner, JVR and Kadri......and all the other underachieving young players. Kessel, Lupul and Dion can all go elsewhere though.
- mykokes

it's not farther along. it should be, but we have nothing to show for these low finishes.

i know you want the rebuild to speed up, but i think you are going to be disapointed

Leafs finally got some good news.


Congrats guys. great hire.
- robin_steele264

My off-the-wall prediction: Under Babcock, Kadri's work ethic improves and production explodes, and/or Gardiner's attention to detail improves and we all call his contract a steal.

Did I say prediction? I meant desperate hope

depends who they keep.

Phaneuf's as good as gone, and Kessel is likely out the door already.

Team's not going anywhere without those two.
- Feeling Glucky?

Curious. Why is Phanuef as good as gone when the coach that was trying to trade for him a couple months ago is now the leafs coach?

hockey players rarely (i would say never but very rare cases like Danny Cleary) change. babcock isn't going to make phil kessel start caring or playing defense.
- clark_griswold

or eating properly.

Phil is awesome, he should get a good return. but his time is done here. the only way he stays is if he works hard in the offseason....which cox says he is.

Which is smart of Phil if he wants to stay.

...aaaaaaand the rebuild just went out the window.
- Pecafan Fan

on hold for 8yrs

and the year they sign Stamkos
- the_eye

That's July 2016. Next summer

Curious. Why is Phanuef as good as gone when the coach that was trying to trade for him a couple months ago is now the leafs coach?
- Iggysbff

i thought the rumor was Babcock snubbed it.

Either way its all rumor and shouldn't be use as a central argument.