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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 21 @ 8:41 AM ET
Elite super star.
- burn

Where the (frank) has he been, like seriously, it's hard to go missing when you're his size, but time and time again, he Joe Thornton's it.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
2300 + comments, ah yeah, no back reading this morning, that is the junior ref's job.


oh Dozzer!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
Did you know Doug MacLean drafted him 1st overall?
- TheThrill



I hadn't heard that, does he talk about it often?
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

May 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
Is Rick Nash playing?
- walshyleafsfan


Big game Rick.

6 goals, 16 apples, 22 pts in 52 ranger playoff games.

GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

May 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
Where the (frank) has he been, like seriously, it's hard to go missing when you're his size, but time and time again, he Joe Thornton's it.
- walshyleafsfan


not even close. Big joe drops off, but he doesnt put up 4th line stats
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
Kadri (DoB 6th of Oct 1990):
2006-2007 KITCHENER RANGERS-OHL 62 7 15 22 (16y old)
2007-2008 KITCHENER RANGERS-OHL 68 25 40 65 (17y old)
2008-2009 LONDON KNIGHTS-OHL 56 25 53 78 (18y old)
2009-2010 LONDON KNIGHTS-OHL 56 35 58 93 (19y old)

Marner (DoB 5th of May 1997)
2013-2014 LONDON 64 13 46 59 (16y old)
2014-2015 LONDON 63 44 82 126 (17y old)

Consider these numbers; Marner basically doubles Kadri's production at same age.
Then reconsider your opinion, and tell us whether you still think Marner is 'another Kadri'.

- MaximusAurelius

KABOOM goes the dynamite.

WE NEED MORE 'MURIKAN D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(frank) 1st line centers. Gilmour was a bum.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
Love the narrative that the leafs swooped in last minute and grabbed Babcock. weren't they the first to speak with him after drw eleminAted? Didn't they go to the worlds to talk to him?


Last minute.

- burn


That narrative is about them coming into the negotiations last minute. And negotiations ares aid to have only started Sunday. Who knows if it's true. But the Sabres thought they had a deal on Monday night apparently.
CanadianTom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Take off Hoser, NB
Joined: 08.28.2007

May 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
2300 + comments, ah yeah, no back reading this morning, that is the junior ref's job.


oh Dozzer!

- LeafMan


I love seeing dozier take it in the teeth
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
Where the (frank) has he been, like seriously, it's hard to go missing when you're his size, but time and time again, he Joe Thornton's it.
- walshyleafsfan



The commentators really ripping on him last night for not going to the net, unlike small forward Tyler Johnson.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 8:45 AM ET
But, and this will cause a lot of debate, I honestly do not think that team is very close to the ultimate goal. I'd pick teams that finished below them in a playoff series.
- walshyleafsfan


The Habs are a unique case.

On one hand, they are/were very close and could certainly be called legitimate contenders.

On the other hand, I feel like they squeezed every bit of production they could out of that roster. They had the best goaltending in the league and were healthy for most of the season.

So, it is tough to know how close they are. I feel like they need to make improvements, obviously, but the improvements need to be pretty serious and they run the risk of changing the successful (mostly) approach the team used this season.

They really were close, but also deceptively far away from a cup.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 21 @ 8:45 AM ET
Kadri (DoB 6th of Oct 1990):
2006-2007 KITCHENER RANGERS-OHL 62 7 15 22 (16y old)
2007-2008 KITCHENER RANGERS-OHL 68 25 40 65 (17y old)
2008-2009 LONDON KNIGHTS-OHL 56 25 53 78 (18y old)
2009-2010 LONDON KNIGHTS-OHL 56 35 58 93 (19y old)

Marner (DoB 5th of May 1997)
2013-2014 LONDON 64 13 46 59 (16y old)
2014-2015 LONDON 63 44 82 126 (17y old)

Consider these numbers; Marner basically doubles Kadri's production at same age.
Then reconsider your opinion, and tell us whether you still think Marner is 'another Kadri'.

- MaximusAurelius



I agree with your point, Kadri and Marner are not in the same convo.

But you need to compare them in thier draft year

Kadri 78 points in 56 games 1.39ppg
Marner 2.00ppg

Marner compares to Seguin/Hall at the same age.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
That narrative is about them coming into the negotiations last minute. And negotiations ares aid to have only started Sunday. Who knows if it's true. But the Sabres thought they had a deal on Monday night apparently.
- DoubleDown



Looks like maybe they didn't - is there a point to this?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
I love seeing dozier take it in the teeth
- DoubleDown

I admitted yesterday I didn't think the Leafs had a chance in hell in landing him, boy I was wrong, an oversight on the 50 million reasons.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
Kadri > Kraft Dinner > canned Spam > Mitch Marner
- Dozzer

TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 21 @ 8:47 AM ET
I agree with your point, Kadri and Marner are not in the same convo.

But you need to compare them in thier draft year

Kadri 78 points in 56 games 1.39ppg
Marner 2.00ppg

Marner compares to Seguin/Hall at the same age.

- senstroll



Marner, Strome, Hanifin

They will all be good players, and I'll be stoked for any one of them.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
That narrative is about them coming into the negotiations last minute. And negotiations ares aid to have only started Sunday. Who knows if it's true. But the Sabres thought they had a deal on Monday night apparently.
- DoubleDown


The story this morning is more likely. The Leafs were never really out of it, just quiet about it.

They waited to see what other teams would offer before making their own serious offer... once they knew what they were up against.

It is not tough to imagine Shanahan sitting back knowing that he had the green light to beat or match whatever was out there and telling Babcock to give him a final call before signing anything.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:48 AM ET


That narrative is about them coming into the negotiations last minute. And negotiations ares aid to have only started Sunday. Who knows if it's true. But the Sabres thought they had a deal on Monday night apparently.


- DoubleDown


Percisely. And that is the point. Obviously the leafs had been there all along, no? They flew to Detroit the second he was elimated, they spoke to him at the worlds. Only butthut whiners saying they swooped in last minute.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 21 @ 8:49 AM ET
Oh Jesus Christ senstroll! Don't be comparing Marner with Seguin/Hall... poor Bruce is gonna' have a (frank)ing stroke.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 21 @ 8:49 AM ET
The story this morning is more likely. The Leafs were never really out of it, just quiet about it.

They waited to see what other teams would offer before making their own serious offer... once they knew what they were up against.

It is not tough to imagine Shanahan sitting back knowing that he had the green light to beat or match whatever was out there and telling Babcock to give him a final call before signing anything.

- Aetherial


As they said on the FAN this morning, Shanny's a Boss with a capital "B"
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
Marner, Strome, Hanifin

They will all be good players, and I'll be stoked for any one of them.

- TheThrill



Agreed.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
I agree with your point, Kadri and Marner are not in the same convo.

But you need to compare them in thier draft year

Kadri 78 points in 56 games 1.39ppg
Marner 2.00ppg

Marner compares to Seguin/Hall at the same age.

- senstroll


The size is a concern. What I like about Marner is the pitbull attitude.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
The size is a concern. What I like about Marner is the pitbull attitude.
- Aetherial




Same as guys like Johnson, St. Louis, Jonny hockey....... And not like guys like wellfed.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 21 @ 8:53 AM ET
Agreed.
- burn


Like with the state of this team, we just need good players at every position.

I do think we are weaker in terms of prospect pool at defense than we are up front, but frankly, they still need everything
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 8:53 AM ET
Oh Jesus Christ senstroll! Don't be comparing Marner with Seguin/Hall... poor Bruce is gonna' have a (frank)ing stroke.

- Tee-Dot



Who the hell wants that much skill anyways...... Draft more Freddy the goat types.
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