If I'm Pegula I hire either Ron Wilson or Randy Carlyle to coach just to stick it to the Leafs.

With our prospects we'll be better than the Leafs for at least the next 5 years.


- Losman

W
Said this to a friend today... Wouldn't it be hilarious if BUF and DET were to hire Wilson and Carlyle and finish higher than Leafs for the next five years lol

Hey Detroit fans wanna make an anti Toronto alliance?

Hey Detroit fans wanna make an anti Toronto alliance?
- Patdan17

why?

Yesterday BUF fans were on here calling the Wings fans bitter.... How goes the battle today Sabres nation?
- BooBoo997

Meh,
I wanted him, sure, the guys a good coach. But being realistic, a lot of other teams wanted him also. We placed our bet just like everybody else and Toronto came out on top, good for them.

But Babcock isn't the only fish in the sea and if he wanted a significant amount of power in player/personnel decisions which looks like Toronto gave him, then that can only be a bad thing down the road. The coach is the coach and not the G.M. and he shouldn't have power to tell his boss how to do his job period.

I do hope it works out for both clubs because I really love the rivalry. I guess time will tell.

Hey Detroit fans wanna make an anti Toronto alliance?
- Patdan17

We could care less about either, sorry.

We could care less about either, sorry.
- StargateSG1

i know

to me Toronto and Buffalo are two loser franchises.

Leafs havent won anything in 50 years.
Sabres has hit rock bottom and are still there.

Money cant buy everything. Leafs fans know this well and Sabres fans are just finding this out.

Edmonton seems like the real winner here, getting their guy signed before the Leafs deal was announced. You think Babs might have thrown McLellan a bone by advising him to hold off on signing for a couple days. Bar has been raised...

The Leafs are going to be having a life time coach and a former NHL player punisher picking your talent and paying that coach 8 million a year to coach very little talent good times.
- GilPerreault11

Today the sun shanahand in the east, and tomorrow it will smile in the west when the Leafs show Babcock the door and he moons all the Roger's hockey fans with 8 years of cable tv increases because he is unable to change the losing culture of the leafs.

I hope that today we have all learned that money does not buy happiness. Buffalo is a hard working town, the Pegulas earned their fortune through hard work and perseverance and not on the backs of cable tv subscribers.......

It is time to up the ante by thinking smarter.

Lets see if we can get a real coach in here, someone the players will respect.

What about hiring Wayne Gretzky and surrounding him with good associate coaches like DeBoer/Boucher and Richardson (or Hawerchuk and Coffey).....think smarter....look at the successful junior coaches and assemble the best coaching staff that works well together and delivers....not just glitters in the sunlight for a fleeting coin of a moment!

Make no mistake about it, I WANTED to see Babcock as the coach of Buffalo. However, if the details are accurate I remember thinking a few things mainly last night:

1) If it really is about control, how is that going to work? I mean could we potentially be looking at a schism between GM and coach down the road? What would that look like?

2) Expectations. Next year, because of this the Sabres are playing with house money. The expectations of the Sabres + Babcock are significantly higher than the expectations of the Sabres + Coach X. I mean the only equivaelnt I can think of in terms of a hotter coach wanting personnel control (and I can only think football really) is Parcels or Holmgren (when he went to Seattle). Without Babcock the Sabres are playing with house money.

Yes this is the stage of acceptance of the consolation prize, but it may be a blessing in disguise. Time will tell. Early predictions, just because of the current state of the Leafs, Babcock doesn't make the full term, heck even to the 5 year opt out period.

But, if he rebuilds it and turns the Leafs into a power house, that guy will be REVERED. Well beyond what he is.

I have NO problem with him using the Sabres offer to increase the Leafs offer. Any one of us would do the exact same thing in our own industry. Numbers aren't so big because 20K people don't buy tickets to what a fat dude like me do IT work for a food service distributor.

Only about 15......
- gcomella34

This. It's a business, I don't get all the feigned outrage. I'm sure all player agents do the same while negotiating on behalf of their UFAs, if not they aren't doing their jobs...

Surprised he didnt stay in detroit, hard to pass up a 50 mil offer for 20 mil though

This should heat up the old QEW rivalry. Just another reason to hate those pretentious Leaf fans.

They act like they invented hockey. Hmm, the last time the Leafs were in the Finals was 1967. Good luck with that Babs. Can't wait for his first meltdown with the media in TO.

I can hear the chants now... SIX-TEE-SEV-UNH (clap, clap...clap, clap, clap).
- porkyschwartz

and this is butthurt.

the sabres are 0 for 45 so far in the NHL. not much to brag about there.I get a kick out of the guys whose teams havent ever won the cup, 40-50 years in the league, bringing up 1967 for the leafs

and this is butthurt.

the sabres are 0 for 45 so far in the NHL. not much to brag about there.I get a kick out of the guys whose teams havent ever won the cup, 40-50 years in the league, bringing up 1967 for the leafs
- GardinerExpress

I get a kick out of fans who think they've won something. We've done more winning than you guys since the new NHL. It's amazing how Laugh fans are still bragging about a Stanley Cup that they won in the silent era. Hello, you guys have had no real success in quite some time. Your teams been a circus for a long time and will continue to be for a very long time.

This is a Butthurt blog if there ever was one. Everyone knew Babcock was exploring all options. This is how it happens. You meet with teams , see what they have to offer and play them against one another. It's not greasy, players and agents do it every summer. Buffalo chose to get in on it. Edmonton and Philly chose not to.

Garth, if you didn't get yourself so worked up and optimistic you wouldn't be so dissapointed.

and this is butthurt.

the sabres are 0 for 45 so far in the NHL. not much to brag about there.I get a kick out of the guys whose teams havent ever won the cup, 40-50 years in the league, bringing up 1967 for the leafs
- GardinerExpress

It's okay coming from fans of teams that won a cup or 5 tho, right?

This should heat up the old QEW rivalry. Just another reason to hate those pretentious Leaf fans.

They act like they invented hockey. Hmm, the last time the Leafs were in the Finals was 1967. Good luck with that Babs. Can't wait for his first meltdown with the media in TO.

I can hear the chants now... SIX-TEE-SEV-UNH (clap, clap...clap, clap, clap).
- porkyschwartz

1967 is correct. When exactly did the Sabres win the Stanley Cup? Finals? Oh, yes, the finals. Like Rickie Bobby Said. "If you ain't first, you're last"