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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
I am surprised no one mentioned that on Twitter last night on the Utica account they said they expect McCann to play this upcoming series.

Yes trade Vrbata. If you bring in Ward the you are giving up on Kassian and Grenier. It is time to reward youth.

Next years 4 th line JV Cassels Dorsett
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
Stalock says otherwise, Neimi will likely move on but my guess is they go with Stalock and a vet opposed to a guy like Lack and Stalock.
- belcherbd

I know its cliché but Stalock is to short. I just don't see him as a constant starter in this league. He is a reliable backup but I have seen him get exposed after too much time in net.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:46 PM ET
Bloatedmosquito,

Signing Ward short term isn't as much of a worry as Matthias, Richardson, Higgins, Burrows, Bieksa all being in Canucks Blue next year.

If those five are all still here then I would start worrying about the 'plan'.


- LordHumungous

Ward has some grit so I don't care one way or the other. Trade Vrbata
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
I am surprised no one mentioned that on Twitter last night on the Utica account they said they expect McCann to play this upcoming series.

Yes trade Vrbata. If you bring in Ward the you are giving up on Kassian and Grenier. It is time to reward youth.

Next years 4 th line JV Cassels Dorsett

- VANTEL

He's 34. I thought we were all leaning to younger players. I'm with you on this on start rewarding the younger players. It would be a waste of money. Bloated was right if they sign him they don't have a plan.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 21 @ 4:50 PM ET
He's 34. I thought we were all leaning to younger players. I'm with you on this on start rewarding the younger players. It would be a waste of money. Bloated was right if they sign him they don't have a plan.
- thundachunk


They have a plan, and its not like its a secret. They want to make the playoffs every year and that means investing in older players. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they go after Ward.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 21 @ 4:51 PM ET
They have a plan, and its not like its a secret. They want to make the playoffs every year and that means investing in older players. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they go after Ward.
- belcherbd

I wouldn't either.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:52 PM ET
He's 34. I thought we were all leaning to younger players. I'm with you on this on start rewarding the younger players. It would be a waste of money. Bloated was right if they sign him they don't have a plan.
- thundachunk

I agree. If they sign him I won't be pissed but would much rather try Grenier as 2 RW
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
He's 34. I thought we were all leaning to younger players. I'm with you on this on start rewarding the younger players. It would be a waste of money. Bloated was right if they sign him they don't have a plan.
- thundachunk


(frank) Ward.

I would rather see Baertschi-like trades/signings. Youth with potential. Let your development system work out the kinks.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
They have a plan, and its not like its a secret. They want to make the playoffs every year and that means investing in older players. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they go after Ward.
- belcherbd


I wouldn't be surprised either but it would suggest to me that the owner is once again pulling the strings to keep the gravy train rolling. No way this team competes for a cup without a young star or two to build around.
Grumpy13
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.09.2014

May 21 @ 5:03 PM ET
Ward has some grit so I don't care one way or the other. Trade Vrbata
- VANTEL

But not for Ward. We need to get younger.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
But not for Ward. We need to get younger.
- Grumpy13

Trade Vrbata for first rounder to Mtl
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
Trade Vrbata for first rounder to Mtl
- VANTEL


This coming season will be his last under canuck contract, yes?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
Trade Vrbata for first rounder to Mtl
- VANTEL


If they can get a first, I don't care where he goes.

JB needs to make sure there are open slots for some of the youngsters. These guys in Utica have to be making an impression. Need the guys that aren't waiver exempt, in the lineup if they deserve to be.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
This coming season will be his last under canuck contract, yes?
- bloatedmosquito

Yes
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
Yes
- VANTEL


Then go for it. No point in losing players with nothing to show for it. Would his trade value go up at the TDL? Perfect player for a contending team.

Then again, if canucks are close to a playoff spot next season then he will stay and he'll probably walk at the end of his contract.

To be honest, I would rather see Miller moved first. No point having him on the roster.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:25 PM ET
If they can get a first, I don't care where he goes.

JB needs to make sure there are open slots for some of the youngsters. These guys in Utica have to be making an impression. Need the guys that aren't waiver exempt, in the lineup if they deserve to be.

- hillbillydeluxe

I would like to see the forward group like this next year and I don't care if we come in last.

Sedins Sedin Kassian
Sven Bo Hansen
Kenins Bonino Grenier
JV Cassels Dorsett
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Then go for it. No point in losing players with nothing to show for it. Would his trade value go up at the TDL? Perfect player for a contending team.

Then again, if canucks are close to a playoff spot next season then he will stay and he'll probably walk at the end of his contract.

To be honest, I would rather see Miller moved first. No point having him on the roster.

- bloatedmosquito

His trade value might be highest at draft
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

May 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
I would like to see the forward group like this next year and I don't care if we come in last.

Sedins Sedin Kassian
Sven Bo Hansen
Kenins Bonino Grenier
JV Cassels Dorsett

- VANTEL

This is oileresk lineup with the number of rookies in this lineup. But Benning did say next year draft is deeper then this year so I your lineup.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
This is oileresk lineup with the number of rookies in this lineup. But Benning did say next year draft is deeper then this year so I your lineup.
- Linden_4_Capt

Fantastic if it is an Oiler type line up , then we will be picking top 5
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:38 PM ET
Would Buffalo wNt Markstrom for the 31 St pick
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
Would Buffalo wNt Markstrom for the 31 St pick
- VANTEL

Lack maybe, Markstrom likely is worth like a 3rd.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
Lack maybe, Markstrom likely is worth like a 3rd.
- Nucker101

Is any different than our second for Baertschi ? He is closer to ready than selecting a goalie at that spot
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
Is any different than our second for Baertschi ? He is closer to ready than selecting a goalie at that spot
- VANTEL

Scorers always have more values than goalies though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 5:47 PM ET
Scorers always have more values than goalies though.
- Nucker101

He is one of the best AHL goalies and the kid Is huge. He is worth a second for a team that is desperate for goaltending. I would package him with Highins

Boston may want him also. They need a back up and Subban is a bigger risk
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 21 @ 5:53 PM ET
Is any different than our second for Baertschi ? He is closer to ready than selecting a goalie at that spot
- VANTEL


Sabres pick is essentially a 1st, so I think that makes a big difference. You also would have to agree that a 2nd round pick is worth an older prospect.

Benning has been willing to pay that for Vey and Baertschi as did Chia in Boston paying 2 2nd for Connolly.

Usually 2nds are spent on useful but not spectacular NHLers.

Petry, Stewart, Timmonen, Gorges, Stewart all went for 2nd round picks more or less this year.
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