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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 21 @ 6:25 PM ET
Lack is not being traded unless it is an offer we can't refuse
- VANTEL


I hope this is the case, but I said the same thing about Schneider.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:27 PM ET
I hope this is the case, but I said the same thing about Schneider.
- belcherbd

Schneider was a huge trade. We traded for our future captain

Unless we get Luongo back , then the captain thing is anyone's guess
Didogs
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 21 @ 6:28 PM ET
Because just ok players score 31 goals on a regular basis
- VANTEL

Whats kessel worth?
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

May 21 @ 6:29 PM ET
He is one of the best AHL goalies and the kid Is huge. He is worth a second for a team that is desperate for goaltending. I would package him with Highins

Boston may want him also. They need a back up and Subban is a bigger risk

- VANTEL



OR we could just Keep Markstrom and and dump either Miller (preferably) or Lack.
I just don't see any return offsetting what he could turn out to be if he keeps on progressing as he is now... there's a reason that JB stopped shopping him. It's because he likes what he sees and that was before the AHL playoffs, doubt he has changed his mind since
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:29 PM ET
Whats kessel worth?
- DildoGaggins


3 million dollars more on his cap hit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:31 PM ET
Whats kessel worth?
- DildoGaggins



Pudge Boy and his 8 mil contract are worth a Stanley Cup. Every good Leaf fan knows that.

Did you guys run out of superlatives to say about Babcock? So now it's time to annoy the Canucks blog?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
3 million dollars more on his cap hit.
- Nucker101

At least
Didogs
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 21 @ 6:33 PM ET
Pudge Boy and his 8 mil contract are worth a Stanley Cup. Every good Leaf fan knows that.

Did you guys run out of superlatives to say about Babcock? So now it's time to annoy the Canucks blog?

- VANTEL

so Vrbata > Kessel

k

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:35 PM ET
so Vrbata > Kessel

k


- DildoGaggins


I see you are very intelligent


Can you show me where I wrote Vrbata> Kessel

I thought so.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 21 @ 6:35 PM ET
Schneider was a huge trade. We traded for our future captain

Unless we get Luongo back , then the captain thing is anyone's guess

- VANTEL


I'm happy that Bo has worked out well so far, but Schneider who was posting elite numbers was traded for a mid 1st round pick which was underpayment.
I doubt you are singing the same tune if the nucks had picked Nichushkin or Ristolainen.

Bo's development has nothing to do with the return for Schneider IMO.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 21 @ 6:37 PM ET
Whats kessel worth?
- DildoGaggins


Kessel will likely fetch a good return but yes he is worth much more than Vrbata, that doesn't mean Vrbata couldn't get a 1st.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:37 PM ET
I'm happy that Bo has worked out well so far, but Schneider who was posting elite numbers was traded for a mid 1st round pick which was underpayment.
I doubt you are singing the same tune if the nucks had picked Nichushkin or Ristolainen.

Bo's development has nothing to do with the return for Schneider IMO.

- belcherbd


Well there's even speculation that Schneider had also demanded a trade at that point(maybe Kesler had something to do with this). And all 29 GM's knew that Gillis had to trade one of them so he really didn't have much leverage.

Benning isn't nearly in the same situation with as much pressure as Gillis had.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:39 PM ET
I'm happy that Bo has worked out well so far, but Schneider who was posting elite numbers was traded for a mid 1st round pick which was underpayment.
I doubt you are singing the same tune if the nucks had picked Nichushkin or Ristolainen.

Bo's development has nothing to do with the return for Schneider IMO.

- belcherbd

We disagree. Bo was traded for a top 10 pick, not a 10-20 pick. Gillis knew exactly what he was getting in the type of character player and skill level he was getting.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 6:39 PM ET
I see you are very intelligent


Can you show me where I wrote Vrbata> Kessel

I thought so.

- VANTEL


Don't bother. Leaf fan Alt.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:40 PM ET
Plus if you keep Lack and trade Markstrom, you have to convince Lack to re-sign next year when he becomes a UFA. He might not want to be a 1B goalie until the age of 29. And he'll want a raise. You'll be spending more on goalies than even Montreal does with Price and getting less value between Lack, Miller and Luongo's salary retainment.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
Kessel will likely fetch a good return but yes he is worth much more than Vrbata, that doesn't mean Vrbata couldn't get a 1st.
- belcherbd

Kessel is a hamburger munching , self centred , miserable , one dimensional player with a horrible cap hit. He is a better scorer than Vrbata, but GMs beware. Do you really want a cancer on your team like that?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
Don't bother. Leaf fan Alt.
- bloatedmosquito

I know.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 6:43 PM ET
Plus if you keep Lack and trade Markstrom, you have to convince Lack to re-sign next year when he becomes a UFA. He might not want to be a 1B goalie until the age of 29. And he'll want a raise. You'll be spending more on goalies than even Montreal does with Price and getting less value between Lack, Miller and Luongo's salary retainment.
- Nucker101


(frank) you're depressing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:44 PM ET
Plus if you keep Lack and trade Markstrom, you have to convince Lack to re-sign next year when he becomes a UFA. He might not want to be a 1B goalie until the age of 29. And he'll want a raise. You'll be spending more on goalies than even Montreal does with Price and getting less value between Lack, Miller and Luongo's salary retainment.
- Nucker101

Lack is going nowhere unless it is a huge offer
Didogs
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 21 @ 6:45 PM ET
Truth be told. I really like Vrbata. and if the leafs were closer to the playoffs he would be an amazing piece.

If van thinks they are still close. they should keep him.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:46 PM ET
(frank) you're depressing.
- bloatedmosquito

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:47 PM ET
Lack is going nowhere unless it is a huge offer
- VANTEL

Thanks, Jim.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:47 PM ET
Thanks, Jim.
- Nucker101

Anytime Mike
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 21 @ 6:48 PM ET
Whats kessel worth?
- DildoGaggins



Clearly not enough to Back-check or play defense.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:48 PM ET
Truth be told. I really like Vrbata. and if the leafs were closer to the playoffs he would be an amazing piece.

If van thinks they are still close. they should keep him.

- DildoGaggins


We aren't close and we wouldn't mind trading him to a team that needs a top 6 sniper at RW like WAS/PIT/MTL for a good prospect or a first.
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