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Ya their is a reason they made him wait a day to cool off and collect his thoughts. He seems to be super impulsive when it's a heated moment. Even said so him self when refering to his lottery comments. - Carubba-Kaleta
Guy has been on the job for a year and a half, cleaning up Darcy's mess. At least give him 5 years (Darcy had 15). |
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Guy has been on the job for a year and a half, cleaning up Darcy's mess. At least give him 5 years (Darcy had 15). - Irish 14
Good point. Darcy was a rookie GM when he was hired. |
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ImNoTroll
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Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN Joined: 06.24.2014
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Ya their is a reason they made him wait a day to cool off and collect his thoughts. He seems to be super impulsive when it's a heated moment. Even said so him self when refering to his lottery comments. - Carubba-Kaleta
It's refreshing. Not listening to the standard MO bs lines that everyone else says. |
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buffalofan19
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Guy has been on the job for a year and a half, cleaning up Darcy's mess. At least give him 5 years (Darcy had 15). - Irish 14
What does that have to do whether he was upset at the way the Mike Babcock situation went down? |
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Guy has been on the job for a year and a half, cleaning up Darcy's mess. At least give him 5 years (Darcy had 15). - Irish 14
No don't get me wrong I really like the guy. He seems to be super hockey smart and I really trust his vision. I think he will be the one to lead us to the promise land! |
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buffalofan19
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Dan Bylsma as head coach. Yes, his inability or refusal to make in-game adjustments, especially in the playoffs, is cause for concern, but the reality is the Sabres have to get to the place where that even becomes an issue first. He does have a resume that suggests he can at least do that. And he does have a championship on his resume. |
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Dan Bylsma as head coach. Yes, his inability or refusal to make in-game adjustments, especially in the playoffs, is cause for concern, but the reality is the Sabres have to get to the place where that even becomes an issue first. He does have a resume that suggests he can at least do that. And he does have a championship on his resume. - buffalofan19
Thank you!
The guy deserves another shot, pretty sure he's smart enough to learn from mistakes. |
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Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN Joined: 06.24.2014
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Dan Bylsma as head coach. Yes, his inability or refusal to make in-game adjustments, especially in the playoffs, is cause for concern, but the reality is the Sabres have to get to the place where that even becomes an issue first. He does have a resume that suggests he can at least do that. And he does have a championship on his resume. - buffalofan19
Only one coach has one a Stanley Cup with different teams, I prefer a coach who has never won one. |
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Only one coach has one a Stanley Cup with different teams, I prefer a coach who has never won one. - ImNoTroll
I just want the best coach at developing youth everything else can wait until we are ready to contend. |
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buffalofan19
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Only one coach has one a Stanley Cup with different teams, I prefer a coach who has never won one. - ImNoTroll
That trend will end sooner or later. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Dan Bylsma as head coach. Yes, his inability or refusal to make in-game adjustments, especially in the playoffs, is cause for concern, but the reality is the Sabres have to get to the place where that even becomes an issue first. He does have a resume that suggests he can at least do that. And he does have a championship on his resume. - buffalofan19
I'm still 50/50. Solid resume but the analysis of his work with the young players seems to be mixed. Some say he'll hurt player development but you wonder if that only happened it pittsburgh because the pressure to win now was so high. Perhaps he approaches it differently with a rebuilding team. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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I just want the best coach at developing youth everything else can wait until we are ready to contend. - Carubba-Kaleta
I trust him. We don't need a coach that HAS won A cup. We want one that WILL help us win cups. As been stated before, Only one coach has won it for more than one team. And he sucked when he was here. Lets not do that again. |
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Only one coach has one a Stanley Cup with different teams, I prefer a coach who has never won one. - ImNoTroll
I was typing and missed your post.
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I trust him. We don't need a coach that HAS won A cup. We want one that WILL help us win cups. As been stated before, Only one coach has won it for more than one team. And he sucked when he was here. Lets not do that again. - cabin
This this this this this
Not one person beating the Bylsma drum was beating it until we lost out on Babcock. |
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buffalofan19
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I'm still 50/50. Solid resume but the analysis of his work with the young players seems to be mixed. Some say he'll hurt player development but you wonder if that only happened it pittsburgh because the pressure to win now was so high. Perhaps he approaches it differently with a rebuilding team. - Sabresfan-365
I have to think there are things he'll do differently a second time around. I look at it like this. The things that are cause for a red flag are only problems when this team is in serious contention, and they're still a long way from that. When this team becomes as good as we all hope it to be (i.e. great), it may be time to revisit things. However, until then, they need a name. If they go from a highly sought after guy from Babcock to a guy like Luke Richardson, who, let's face it, is the supposed lead candidate mainly because he's familiar with Murray, it will be a letdown. Bylsma at least has name recognition. |
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buffalofan19
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This this this this this
Not one person beating the Bylsma drum was beating it until we lost out on Babcock. - Buffalo--Sabres
To be fair, that's because it was pretty much Babcock or bust at that point. The way this episode went down absolutely does have a lot to do with Bylsma becoming a bigger candidate. |
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That trend will end sooner or later. - buffalofan19
It's decades and decades of data, it isn't a trend. I think it's very similar in football as well. |
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To be fair, that's because it was pretty much Babcock or bust at that point. The way this episode went down absolutely does have a lot to do with Bylsma becoming a bigger candidate. - buffalofan19
Not buying that. Its the Buffalo sports fan convincing themselves who ever is in front if them is the answer. Like when we didn't land Richards and got Leino and suddenly we have our #1 center and we're winning the cup. We do the same thing all the time with the Bills. Just because we can only get the 3rd or 4th best guy and we decide to overpay him doesn't make it a good idea. |
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Dan Bylsma as head coach. Yes, his inability or refusal to make in-game adjustments, especially in the playoffs, is cause for concern, but the reality is the Sabres have to get to the place where that even becomes an issue first. He does have a resume that suggests he can at least do that. And he does have a championship on his resume. - buffalofan19
He has never "taken" a team to the playoffs. He's taken over a cup caliber team and maintained moderate success. He's an average coach IMO |
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buffalofan19
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He has never "taken" a team to the playoffs. He's taken over a cup caliber team and maintained moderate success. He's an average coach IMO - sbroads24
I'm not saying he's great by any means. I just think he's more than capable. I'm simply not anywhere near as against the idea as I was 24 hours ago. |
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I have to think there are things he'll do differently a second time around. I look at it like this. The things that are cause for a red flag are only problems when this team is in serious contention, and they're still a long way from that. When this team becomes as good as we all hope it to be (i.e. great), it may be time to revisit things. However, until then, they need a name. If they go from a highly sought after guy from Babcock to a guy like Luke Richardson, who, let's face it, is the supposed lead candidate mainly because he's familiar with Murray, it will be a letdown. Bylsma at least has name recognition. - buffalofan19
This is my main concern. Lots of stubborn coaches out there, i'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt but it's hard.
Otherwise i agree, general consensus seems to be that he'd make for a good set up guy, (which as you pointed out is what we really need) and he's a big enough name for people chew on.
I too would like a set up guy but I'm not convinced Bylsma (or any big name coach left for that matter) is the guy. The "young/inexperienced" guys that get the call from the AHL are usually good or great with player development but more importantly because it's their first crack at an nhl job, they can't afford to be stubborn. I think having that kind of coach for 2 or 3 years and then going out and getting a big name guy would be a better choice. |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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If youguys didn't listen to Murray's interview this afternoon on wgr, do it. It explains so many of our petty debates and assumptions. Babcock wanted too much power? Pure bullpoop. Murray is going to try to trade for mcdavid? Bullpoop. Murray's going to go after some old fart like Patrick Sharp? Bullpoop.
Thanks again, Tim. Keep being pro. - TheSabresTaco
I've been saying all along guys like Sharp weren't gonna be his target.
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buffalofan19
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This is my main concern. Lots of stubborn coaches out there, i'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt but it's hard.
Otherwise i agree, general consensus seems to be that he'd make for a good set up guy, (which as you pointed out is what we really need) and he's a big enough name for people chew on.
I too would like a set up guy but I'm not convinced Bylsma (or any big name coach left for that matter) is the guy. The "young/inexperienced" guys that get the call from the AHL are usually good or great with player development but more importantly because it's their first crack at an nhl job, they can't afford to be stubborn. I think having that kind of coach for 2 or 3 years and then going out and getting a big name guy would be a better choice. - Sabresfan-365
Right, but even a guy like Luke Richardson isn't really one of those highly sought after AHL coaches. His resume in the AHL is good, but not great, and what really gives him the inside track is his familiarity with Murray. If a guy like Blashill, who's now essentially a lock for the Detroit job, or so it seems, were really available, I'd be more inclined to say, let's go somewhere else. The reality is, that type of coach really isn't available.
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Not buying that. Its the Buffalo sports fan convincing themselves who ever is in front if them is the answer. Like when we didn't land Richards and got Leino and suddenly we have our #1 center and we're winning the cup. We do the same thing all the time with the Bills. Just because we can only get the 3rd or 4th best guy and we decide to overpay him doesn't make it a good idea. - Buffalo--Sabres
I'm not saying he's "the answer", simply that he's the best available. Dan Bylsma has at least won a championship before. Ville Leino had never even played center in the NHL before, let alone #1 center. It's apples and oranges. |
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I'm not saying he's great by any means. I just think he's more than capable. I'm simply not anywhere near as against the idea as I was 24 hours ago. - buffalofan19
I guess I would be fine with him. Like I said, I don't consider myself a coach g guru by any means. He could be the greatest coach ever |
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