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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
Let's just hope Benning isn't, he's the only one who matters. Well, Delorme too apparently...
- Nucker101


You know hockey fans are getting more educated on many levels now. You see it by the not only knowledge their team and their farm club , but they are educated on other teams and their farm systems.

Nowadays fans follow the JRs and the draft unlike any other decade previous. We are also looking into college hockey and leagues overseas.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 22 @ 7:12 PM ET
Cassels getting pre game props on SN as one of the best two way players in the tourney
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 22 @ 7:17 PM ET
For those too lazy to read/click

- Says Barzal and Provorov are top 10 pick talents

- Likes Pilon's skating/skill/size but there's question about his determination and intensity

- Favourite prospect from the WHL is Nick Merkley, sees him as a poor man's Sam Bennett. High end speed, skill, vision and plays bigger than his size

- Seems to really like Austin Wagner as a 2nd round pick, 6'2 with speed/skill and can forecheck well(some people at HF who watch the WHL say he's really underrated as well)

- Very high on Noah Juulsen, an aggressive/mean defensemen with skill

- Also like Ryan Gropp, but he's more of a perimeter/skill player

- Other later round picks he likes are:
Keegan Kolesar
Adam Musil
Tyler Soy

- Nucker101


Would love to see Merkley be still available when we pick but I doubt that happens. I'm looking forward to watching how he and the Rockets match up against Cassels and the Generals in the Memorial Cup.

I know people are high on our sudden C depth but the addition of a high end playmaker like Merkley, Harkins or even Beauvillier would great.

I still think Horvat/McCann/Cassels/Gaunce ceilings don't project like first line talent.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 22 @ 7:30 PM ET
Would love to see Merkley be still available when we pick but I doubt that happens. I'm looking forward to watching how he and the Rockets match up against Cassels and the Generals in the Memorial Cup.

I know people are high on our sudden C depth but the addition of a high end playmaker like Merkley, Harkins or even Beauvillier would great.

I still think Horvat/McCann/Cassels/Gaunce ceilings don't project like first line talent.

- belcherbd

We still have three years of Hank with some decent 2LC in the mix. We need to fix the D first. Next year draft down the middle again
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 22 @ 7:33 PM ET
Cassels getting pre game props on SN as one of the best two way players in the tourney
- VANTEL

Leaf fans will be here soon to set us right.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 22 @ 7:34 PM ET
We still have three years of Hank with some decent 2LC in the mix. We need to fix the D first. Next year draft down the middle again
- VANTEL


Thats a fair point but I just don't ever think drafting D in the first round unless you get one of the top tier guys a la Jones, Doughty etc. Many of the best D are 2nd round or later picks. Very few of the #1 Centers are.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 22 @ 7:37 PM ET
Thats a fair point but I just don't ever think drafting D in the first round unless you get one of the top tier guys a la Jones, Doughty etc. Many of the best D are 2nd round or later picks. Very few of the #1 Centers are.
- belcherbd

That is usually a fair statement, but because Canucks have avoided the D issue for years, band aids won't work anymore. They need to get 4 more young reliable D men

I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 22 @ 8:34 PM ET
That is usually a fair statement, but because Canucks have avoided the D issue for years, band aids won't work anymore. They need to get 4 more young reliable D men

I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it

- VANTEL


No thanks, you talk about Bieksa's defensive liabilities. Well, not too much of an improvement with Franson (albeit he's younger than Bieska). He has a -27 in the last couple of years, not exactly anything to write home about or turn any heads in terms of trying to acquire him. And the offensive side of things aren't noticeably different (Franson did have a decent year last year with 33 points, but the other years as compared to Bieksa are pretty much a wash). Lastly, Franson is a wallflower compared to Bieksa. If we want to take a step back with respect to our demands for a tougher team then, yes, let's add Franson.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 22 @ 8:38 PM ET
Does St. Louis think he's still playing for Tampa? Nash has been invisible, but St. Louis is noticeable for all the wrong reasons.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 22 @ 8:48 PM ET
No thanks, you talk about Bieksa's defensive liabilities. Well, not too much of an improvement with Franson (albeit he's younger than Bieska). He has a -27 in the last couple of years, not exactly anything to write home about or turn any heads in terms of trying to acquire him. And the offensive side of things aren't noticeably different (Franson did have a decent year last year with 33 points, but the other years as compared to Bieksa are pretty much a wash). Lastly, Franson is a wallflower compared to Bieksa. If we want to take a step back with respect to our demands for a tougher team then, yes, let's add Franson.
- Zogg


I am just saying Botchford brought it up the other day that this was a possibility
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
No thanks, you talk about Bieksa's defensive liabilities. Well, not too much of an improvement with Franson (albeit he's younger than Bieska). He has a -27 in the last couple of years, not exactly anything to write home about or turn any heads in terms of trying to acquire him. And the offensive side of things aren't noticeably different (Franson did have a decent year last year with 33 points, but the other years as compared to Bieksa are pretty much a wash). Lastly, Franson is a wallflower compared to Bieksa. If we want to take a step back with respect to our demands for a tougher team then, yes, let's add Franson.
- Zogg


Botchford & Franson don't make sense. How many swedes do we need on this team?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 22 @ 9:44 PM ET
I am just saying Botchford brought it up the other day that this was a possibility
- VANTEL


Well, I was just responding to your comment "I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it". There was no mention of Jason Botchford, ya dank . Now, owe up to your statement, ye beeyatch lol

So, what are your real thoughts on this? would you consider picking up Franson in favour of Bieksa?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 22 @ 10:16 PM ET
Well, I was just responding to your comment "I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it". There was no mention of Jason Botchford, ya dank . Now, owe up to your statement, ye beeyatch lol

So, what are your real thoughts on this? would you consider picking up Franson in favour of Bieksa?

- Zogg


I think that you should add "neither" as an option.

And I vote for that.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 10:18 PM ET
Well, I was just responding to your comment "I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it". There was no mention of Jason Botchford, ya dank . Now, owe up to your statement, ye beeyatch lol

So, what are your real thoughts on this? would you consider picking up Franson in favour of Bieksa?

- Zogg


No.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 10:19 PM ET
Well, I was just responding to your comment "I could see Bieksa traded and Franson picked up , even though some on here would be against it". There was no mention of Jason Botchford, ya dank . Now, owe up to your statement, ye beeyatch lol

So, what are your real thoughts on this? would you consider picking up Franson in favour of Bieksa?

- Zogg


Why r u trying to annoy everyone?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 22 @ 10:22 PM ET
Why r u trying to annoy everyone?
- VanHockeyGuy


Because Baby Jesus says you touch yourself
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
Because Baby Jesus says you touch yourself
- Zogg


now I understand
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 10:48 PM ET
Because Baby Jesus says you touch yourself
- Zogg


micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

May 22 @ 10:58 PM ET
How does Kyprios get to sit at the HNIC desk? The guy is a goof.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
So talk to me - what's up?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 22 @ 11:01 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy


Flagged and reported to Kaptaan
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 22 @ 11:04 PM ET
How does Kyprios get to sit at the HNIC desk? The guy is a goof.
- micah555


not only a goof, but a narcissistic egotistical feck face who thinks he knows it all (worst yet, he thinks he's actually funny/witty *groan*). That whole @#$ panel (besides Friedman) should be removed immediately citing viewer cruel and unusual punishment
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 22 @ 11:11 PM ET
Does St. Louis think he's still playing for Tampa? Nash has been invisible, but St. Louis is noticeable for all the wrong reasons.
- CubanBuffet


CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 22 @ 11:19 PM ET

- Scooby_Doo




Yeah, pretty much. That happens to me all the time.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 22 @ 11:23 PM ET
not only a goof, but a narcissistic egotistical feck face who thinks he knows it all (worst yet, he thinks he's actually funny/witty *groan*). That whole @#$ panel (besides Friedman) should be removed immediately citing viewer cruel and unusual punishment
- Zogg

I just watch Diners, Drive-ins, & Dives between periods
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