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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
It's been done before. Remember the conditional Islanders 1st round pick?
- awildmudkip



That was in a trade, not part of the compensation for successfully signing an RFA to an offer sheet.


The answer to his question is no.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
6-10 as in top ten players over the last decade.


- dadeadhead


my mistake! I just sorta joined in. how's everyone doing today? Good, I hope. Hitchcock will keep losing in St. Louis, so we have that going for us.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
It's Jeremy White vs. Greg Wyshynski on Twitter today.
- buffalofan19


They are both effing idiots.

I do kind of agree though that since the Sabres lost the draft lottery I have heard a lot of well i'd rather of had Eichel anyways.

The goal was McDavid, Eichel was the consolation. That is and how it has always been.IE) Finishing 30th, which they accomplished.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
That was in a trade, not part of the compensation for successfully signing an RFA to an offer sheet.


The answer to his question is no.

- buffalofan19



Part of the convo earlier was just trading for him rather than offer sheeting him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
They are both effing idiots.

I do kind of agree though that since the Sabres lost the draft lottery I have heard a lot of well i'd rather of had Eichel anyways.

The goal was McDavid, Eichel was the consolation. That is and how it has always been.IE) Finishing 30th, which they accomplished.

- ImThatGuy



The goal was to finish last to guarantee one of them.

20% shot at McDavid

100% guarantee to land at least Eichel.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Part of the convo earlier was just trading for him rather than offer sheeting him.
- dadeadhead


deadhead with da save
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
They are both effing idiots.

I do kind of agree though that since the Sabres lost the draft lottery I have heard a lot of well i'd rather of had Eichel anyways.

The goal was McDavid, Eichel was the consolation. That is and how it has always been.IE) Finishing 30th, which they accomplished.

- ImThatGuy


Agreed. There were a few people that did say they would rather have Eichel, but coping mechanisms have increased that number greatly.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Can we lottery protect that pick for next year (say if it's 1 through 10, the pick moves to next season)?

If not, with where Buffalo will likely finish next year, I would rather have the pick, especially if it's a top 3 pick.

- kingcong39

It's possible to trade for Saad too.

21 plus Zadorov might get it done.

The Hawks didn't hesitate to trade young players before

Ladd was 25 I think and Byfuglien was around that age
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
The goal was to finish last to guarantee one of them.

20% shot at McDavid

100% guarantee to land Eichel

- dadeadhead



This!

It wasn't all about McDavid. It has been all about McEichel.

Last place guaranteed it. We needed to get one. Eichel was like this amazing 6 course meal. McDavid would have been the extra dessert.

We all hoped to get McDavid but we knew we were getting a franchise changing player if we finished last
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
Part of the convo earlier was just trading for him rather than offer sheeting him.
- dadeadhead



If Chicago is going to walk away from an offer sheet from Saad, I can't imagine they'd get more than the required compensation in a trade.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
This!

It wasn't all about McDavid. It has been all about McEichel.

Last place guaranteed it. We needed to get one. Eichel was like this amazing 6 course meal. McDavid would have been the extra dessert.

We all hoped to get McDavid but we knew we were getting a franchise changing player if we finished last

- Stripes77


Side note: I didn't know "Dishonor for Connor" was an actual Facebook page. Who started it?
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
If Chicago is going to walk away from an offer sheet from Saad, I can't imagine they'd get more than the required compensation in a trade.
- buffalofan19


Current compensation for Saad is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. Just throwing it out there.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
It's possible to trade for Saad too.

21 plus Zadorov might get it done.

The Hawks didn't hesitate to trade young players before

Ladd was 25 I think and Byfuglien was around that age

- sbroads24


I make that trade in a heartbeat.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
Current compensation for Saad is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. Just throwing it out there.
- awildmudkip



For a $7 million offersheet?

You can't just offer a player "market value". 99.9% of the time the current team will match it. If you really want to land an RFA, you have to overpay.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:31 PM ET
Side note: I didn't know "Dishonor for Connor" was an actual Facebook page. Who started it?
- buffalofan19


Likely a salty Leaf fan. :⁾
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:31 PM ET
If Chicago is going to walk away from an offer sheet from Saad, I can't imagine they'd get more than the required compensation in a trade.
- buffalofan19



2016 lottery protected 1st
Foligno
and a Prospect

Is on the same level as a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
For a $7 million offersheet?
- buffalofan19


I thought he's making under 5M this year. Who's giving him 7M a year? Not Buffalo, I hope.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
For a $7 million offersheet?
- buffalofan19



6 mil was the original offer made that started it all.

OFFER COMPENSATION

$1,110,249 or below None
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 Third-round choice
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 Second-round choice
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 First-round and third-round choice
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 First-round, second-round and third-round choice
Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976 Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choice
Over $8,410,976 Four first-round choices

Anything in that 5.1-6.7 range has a shot.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
Likely a salty Leaf fan. :⁾
- awildmudkip

We threw that terminology around here when a certain individual with not-so-soft headwear threw a hissy fit about how poorly Tim Murray was treating Ted Nolan and how hoping to finish last was dishonorable. Hence, "Dishonor for Connor" was born here.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
I thought he's making under 5M this year. Who's giving him 7M a year? Not Buffalo, I hope.
- awildmudkip



6 mil was the original number thrown out for an offer sheet.

4.5-5 mil was the rumored bridge deal.

7 mil was thrown out later.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
We threw that terminology around here when a certain individual with not-so-soft headwear threw a hissy fit about how poorly Tim Murray was treating Ted Nolan and how hoping to finish last was dishonorable. Hence, "Dishonor for Connor" was born here.
- buffalofan19


I was going to mention that...
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
I was going to mention that...
- Stripes77



Was there any poetry on that page?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
I make that trade in a heartbeat.
- buffalofan19


How do you fill the D hole that moving Zadorov would leave?
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

May 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
6 mil was the original number thrown out for an offer sheet.

4.5-5 mil was the rumored bridge deal.

7 mil was thrown out later.

- dadeadhead


5.5-6 makes more sense with all the intangibles. But let's be real. He's playing with Toews and Hoss man. Not to say he's a bad player, his production is just inflated. Not justified for 7M a year, really.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
How do you fill the D hole that moving Zadorov would leave?
- kingcong39



This team is deep enough at defense that moving Zadorov won't leave the as big of a void as people think. The only player that would leave a noticeable hole is Ristolainen.
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