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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Fun fact of the day:


LAST 5 GAMES 2014-2015
VS CHICAGO

FRANSON TOI
13:57
17:13
13:01
12:18
16:31
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
He doesn't suck but he is a 4 million dollar goalie not 6
- VANTEL


Pretty much all legit starters get 5+ these days once they've had a couple of seasons of being a workhorse and are in their UFA years.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 2:59 PM ET
Good luck getting one. We don't have the prospects to bring a top Dman back. We can trade for an older one or a Clendenning type that no one cares about or won't change our output
- VANTEL


This is when we find out how creative JB & Co are. A combination of players can get you a good young D, and it would come at a high price. At least we don't have to worry about giving up any more picks this year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Fun fact of the day:


LAST 5 GAMES 2014-2015
VS CHICAGO

FRANSON TOI
13:57
17:13
13:01
12:18
16:31

- Nucker101

Send that to JB
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
Send that to JB
- VANTEL


Would do Franson for 4 per.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
This is when we find out how creative JB & Co are. A combination of players can get you a good young D, and it would come at a high price. At least we don't have to worry about giving up any more picks this year.
- VanHockeyGuy

Didn't we go through that with Tyler Myers and Ekblad? We have so little in the cupboard we can't go all in with prospects or picks to get a shiny new toy. We have to draft and develop
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
Would do Franson for 4 per.
- VanHockeyGuy

He'll get more than that from some desperate team.




*Prays we aren't that desperate team*
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
Send that to JB
- VANTEL


He still hasn't replied to my dozens of Sbisa emails.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 3:05 PM ET
Would do Franson for 4 per.
- VanHockeyGuy



You won't get him for 4. To me it depends on the progress of the Comets and who we draft this year. My brain tells me stay clear of Franson , my heart says pay him 5 mil.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 25 @ 3:05 PM ET
He'll get more than that from some desperate team.




*Prays we aren't that desperate team*

- Nucker101

Can't argue with this
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
You won't get him for 4. To me it depends on the progress of the Comets and who we draft this year. My brain tells me stay clear of Franson , my heart says pay him 5 mil.
- VANTEL


http://www.medicinenet.co...rt_transplant/article.htm
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
You won't get him for 4. To me it depends on the progress of the Comets and who we draft this year. My brain tells me stay clear of Franson , my heart says pay him 5 mil.
- VANTEL


Just thinking 6'5 defenceman. However I get what everyone is saying as well.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
Would do Franson for 4 per.
- VanHockeyGuy

Does he swing that way?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
Just thinking 6'5 defenceman. However I get what everyone is saying as well.
- VanHockeyGuy


He's big but doesn't like playing defense and isn't exactly a mean player. Also struggles when pivoting, he's only a decent skater in straight lines. He's a weird player because he has good passing and shooting skills, but his weaknesses are so bad that you can't really trust him either.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:12 PM ET
Does he swing that way?
- A_SteamingLombardi

He's been sucking for years.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 3:12 PM ET
Didn't we go through that with Tyler Myers and Ekblad? We have so little in the cupboard we can't go all in with prospects or picks to get a shiny new toy. We have to draft and develop
- VANTEL


A goalie, roster player & prospect can do wonders.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:13 PM ET
A goalie, roster player & prospect can do wonders.
- VanHockeyGuy


Define "wonders"


And if you actually want a legit top 4 young d-man who's young, you better be prepared for teams to ask for Virtanen+ or McCann+ . That's the price these days.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
That's why you have to draft and develop some. That's how contenders are built these days, it makes more sense to go out and make a big splash when you already have a team on the rise, not when you're still trying to build a pool of solid young talent.

No point in having Seabrook for the last 3-4 years of his prime when this team won't be contending. Especially since it's going to cost a top 4 d-man, plus a top prospect.

- Nucker101


So you are good with Edler, Hamhuis and Bieksa mentoring the kids coming in for D?

Yipes...gotta have some level of veteran mentorship even with a 'retool on the fly' and Edler,Hammer and Bieksa ain't gonna cut it for the next 3-4 years.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Would do Franson for 4 per.
- VanHockeyGuy


It'll be more like 4.5 per.

Hometown discount.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
So you are good with Edler, Hamhuis and Bieksa mentoring the kids coming in for D?

Yipes...gotta have some level of veteran mentorship even with a 'retool on the fly' and Edler,Hammer and Bieksa ain't gonna cut it for the next 3-4 years.

- LordHumungous


Hamhuis is fine as a mentor, the guy is well respected, a true pro and can still play a high level. I'm not paying a top prospect++ for a mentor...because that mentor won't have much talent to teach after you get him. That defeats the whole purpose.

Plus the truly good players don't need to learn from an elite player to reach their potential, they just need good veteran pros around. Guys who work hard on and off the ice and set a good example that way. You don't need all-star vets.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Define "wonders"


And if you actually want a legit top 4 young d-man who's young, you better be prepared for teams to ask for Virtanen+ or McCann+ . That's the price these days.

- Nucker101


Then we wait and hope.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
It'll be more like 4.5 per.

Hometown discount.


- LordHumungous



Define "discount" ?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
2013 draft.

Horvat
Shinkaruk
Cassels
Subban

Too bad Gillis didn't take Duclair over Shinkaruk.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
Define "discount" ?
- Nucker101


When you're buying a rug and you go to the store that has been going out of business for the past 12 years. They were once offering the rug for $1500, and now after 12 years, they are offering the rug at a discount for $1400.

That is a discount.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
Some of us make stupid proposals and others whine about Sbisa everyday to blow off steam and get us through the summer.
- VANTEL

Burn.
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