Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Fun fact of the day:
LAST 5 GAMES 2014-2015
VS CHICAGO
FRANSON TOI
13:57
17:13
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12:18
16:31 |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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He doesn't suck but he is a 4 million dollar goalie not 6 - VANTEL
Pretty much all legit starters get 5+ these days once they've had a couple of seasons of being a workhorse and are in their UFA years. |
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Good luck getting one. We don't have the prospects to bring a top Dman back. We can trade for an older one or a Clendenning type that no one cares about or won't change our output - VANTEL
This is when we find out how creative JB & Co are. A combination of players can get you a good young D, and it would come at a high price. At least we don't have to worry about giving up any more picks this year.
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Fun fact of the day:
LAST 5 GAMES 2014-2015
VS CHICAGO
FRANSON TOI
13:57
17:13
13:01
12:18
16:31 - Nucker101
Send that to JB |
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Send that to JB - VANTEL
Would do Franson for 4 per. |
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This is when we find out how creative JB & Co are. A combination of players can get you a good young D, and it would come at a high price. At least we don't have to worry about giving up any more picks this year. - VanHockeyGuy
Didn't we go through that with Tyler Myers and Ekblad? We have so little in the cupboard we can't go all in with prospects or picks to get a shiny new toy. We have to draft and develop |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Would do Franson for 4 per. - VanHockeyGuy
He'll get more than that from some desperate team.
*Prays we aren't that desperate team*
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Send that to JB - VANTEL
He still hasn't replied to my dozens of Sbisa emails. |
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Would do Franson for 4 per. - VanHockeyGuy
You won't get him for 4. To me it depends on the progress of the Comets and who we draft this year. My brain tells me stay clear of Franson , my heart says pay him 5 mil. |
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He'll get more than that from some desperate team.
*Prays we aren't that desperate team*
- Nucker101
Can't argue with this |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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You won't get him for 4. To me it depends on the progress of the Comets and who we draft this year. My brain tells me stay clear of Franson , my heart says pay him 5 mil. - VANTEL
Just thinking 6'5 defenceman. However I get what everyone is saying as well. |
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Would do Franson for 4 per. - VanHockeyGuy
Does he swing that way? |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Just thinking 6'5 defenceman. However I get what everyone is saying as well. - VanHockeyGuy
He's big but doesn't like playing defense and isn't exactly a mean player. Also struggles when pivoting, he's only a decent skater in straight lines. He's a weird player because he has good passing and shooting skills, but his weaknesses are so bad that you can't really trust him either. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Does he swing that way? - A_SteamingLombardi
He's been sucking for years. |
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Didn't we go through that with Tyler Myers and Ekblad? We have so little in the cupboard we can't go all in with prospects or picks to get a shiny new toy. We have to draft and develop - VANTEL
A goalie, roster player & prospect can do wonders.
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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A goalie, roster player & prospect can do wonders. - VanHockeyGuy
Define "wonders"
And if you actually want a legit top 4 young d-man who's young, you better be prepared for teams to ask for Virtanen+ or McCann+ . That's the price these days. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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That's why you have to draft and develop some. That's how contenders are built these days, it makes more sense to go out and make a big splash when you already have a team on the rise, not when you're still trying to build a pool of solid young talent.
No point in having Seabrook for the last 3-4 years of his prime when this team won't be contending. Especially since it's going to cost a top 4 d-man, plus a top prospect. - Nucker101
So you are good with Edler, Hamhuis and Bieksa mentoring the kids coming in for D?
Yipes...gotta have some level of veteran mentorship even with a 'retool on the fly' and Edler,Hammer and Bieksa ain't gonna cut it for the next 3-4 years.
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Would do Franson for 4 per. - VanHockeyGuy
It'll be more like 4.5 per.
Hometown discount.
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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So you are good with Edler, Hamhuis and Bieksa mentoring the kids coming in for D?
Yipes...gotta have some level of veteran mentorship even with a 'retool on the fly' and Edler,Hammer and Bieksa ain't gonna cut it for the next 3-4 years. - LordHumungous
Hamhuis is fine as a mentor, the guy is well respected, a true pro and can still play a high level. I'm not paying a top prospect++ for a mentor...because that mentor won't have much talent to teach after you get him. That defeats the whole purpose.
Plus the truly good players don't need to learn from an elite player to reach their potential, they just need good veteran pros around. Guys who work hard on and off the ice and set a good example that way. You don't need all-star vets. |
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Define "wonders"
And if you actually want a legit top 4 young d-man who's young, you better be prepared for teams to ask for Virtanen+ or McCann+ . That's the price these days. - Nucker101
Then we wait and hope. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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It'll be more like 4.5 per.
Hometown discount.
- LordHumungous
Define "discount" ? |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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2013 draft.
Horvat
Shinkaruk
Cassels
Subban
Too bad Gillis didn't take Duclair over Shinkaruk. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Define "discount" ? - Nucker101
When you're buying a rug and you go to the store that has been going out of business for the past 12 years. They were once offering the rug for $1500, and now after 12 years, they are offering the rug at a discount for $1400.
That is a discount. |
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Some of us make stupid proposals and others whine about Sbisa everyday to blow off steam and get us through the summer. - VANTEL
Burn. |
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