3-4 four years ago we could say lets give this guy and that guy away to get this guy.

The only people we're moving now are vets for picks and prospects. I have finally given up on the re-tool/Restructure.

Lets just break it down already.

I want to see a winning team and their are no retooling or restructuring that could fix it.

This team may very well be playoff bound next year. But thats it. Lucky if we hit the second round. Just end it already.

Only issue is, its a business. And when it comes to business, their has to be a giver and a taker. If you want to get decent assets for what we want to give out then their likely wont be many takers.
- vancity787

Thisis true, but it is also why Aquilini is a moron at business. I bet the Oilers/Buffalo make more money from selling Mcdavid/Eichel merchandise in the next year than we made in the last 2 playoff runs.

I don't see canucks making moves for FA that will cost that much, probably save the cap for RFA's
- SRam19

Maybe a couple on the low end to get to 11 on Defense, and to build for another AHL playoff run next year.

I agree that Lack will be the easiest but that doesn't IMO make him the best to move.

I don't understand the sentiment that trading Lack now because the return will be marginally better than Miller or Markstrom.

Lack's value realistically will only continue to grow where Millers will continue to decrease, even if lack ends up being moved out in a few years it makes more sense to hold on to him until then.

If the goal is to make the playoffs and compete for the Cup, Lack has performed better than Miller over the past 2 seasons.

If the goal is to get younger and let the kids grow, Lack makes more sense as he is just entering his prime.

Unless Lack is going to get an overwhelming return which is doubtful I don't see the point in moving him. It is bad asset mgmt to move the younger, better option.
- belcherbd

I would rather keep Lack too.

It is just the goalie market is so fecked up. With Miller and his ntc, I am not sure if he is even movable? He has a limited ntc and wants to stay on the west coast or as close to Cali as possible... it really limits where he would go and which teams would want him.

Lack only has 1 year left on his contract. We need to sign him to an extension or move him. Dubnyk will be seeing a contract in the 3 to 5 mil range, I am guessing Lack will want at least 2mil and maybe as high as 4, and I say 4mil because that wouldn't surprise me if he could command that in free agency.

I agree we want to get younger, but if he walks at the end of next season, we might not get anything. I have no idea how other teams look at him.

We have some contributors on here who say the team played better in front of Miller, and I thought so to at the start of the year, but as the year progressed they seemed to play better in front of Lack and I think a lot of that is just being an inconsistent team.

Thisis true, but it is also why Aquilini is a moron at business. I bet the Oilers/Buffalo make more money from selling Mcdavid/Eichel merchandise in the next year than we made in the last 2 playoff runs.
- Retinalz

As unhappy I am with him, he's not a moron at business. He likes to hang with NHL types, which can cause problems. I often wonder if Linden truly has full autonomy?

Why would anyone sign with the Canucks, they are not a contender. It would be an overpayment and I don't want any player that signs here just for the money.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Vancouver is still a desirable place to sign. A well run organization located in one of the nicest Cities in the world. We also have a reasonably competitive hockey team. chi, Ana and NY can't sign all the UFA's. A UFA would balance winning, $ and geographical location when picking a destination. Vancouver can offer a decent combination and won't necessarily have to be the highest bidder

I would rather keep Lack too.

It is just the goalie market is so fecked up. With Miller and his ntc, I am not sure if he is even movable? He has a limited ntc and wants to stay on the west coast or as close to Cali as possible... it really limits where he would go and which teams would want him.

Lack only has 1 year left on his contract. We need to sign him to an extension or move him. Dubnyk will be seeing a contract in the 3 to 5 mil range, I am guessing Lack will want at least 2mil and maybe as high as 4, and I say 4mil because that wouldn't surprise me if he could command that in free agency.

I agree we want to get younger, but if he walks at the end of next season, we might not get anything. I have no idea how other teams look at him.

We have some contributors on here who say the team played better in front of Miller, and I thought so to at the start of the year, but as the year progressed they seemed to play better in front of Lack and I think a lot of that is just being an inconsistent team.
- hillbillydeluxe

Forget resigning Miller, move him to San Jose.

Vancouver is still a desirable place to sign. A well run organization located in one of the nicest Cities in the world. We also have a reasonably competitive hockey team. chi, Ana and NY can't sign all the UFA's. A UFA would balance winning, $ and geographical location when picking a destination. Vancouver can offer a decent combination and won't necessarily have to be the highest bidder
- CanuckDon

If VAN is in the FA market it will be on the cheap.

A new name in the free-agent mix today is Matt Bartkowski. He'll be cheap and has a history with Benning...

New blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...in-Memorial-Cup/194/68912

Thinking of the goalie controversy. i read one reason Miller signed here is because we told him we were still planning to be contenders. Our playoff run showed that we will not be that within the next 2 years so he may want out to go to one.
- Retinalz

I heard he signed here because we were his only option.

Fixed
- Retinalz

So we want to add offense to our defense but we want to move by far our best offensive d man

I heard he signed here because we were his only option.
- Scooby_Doo

Thank God since that allowed us to get him so cheap

Thank God since that allowed us to get him so cheap
- Nucker101

and without any negotiation!