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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 7:13 PM ET
He'd be a top tier #3 guy only because he didn't generate offense, no worse than that.

A) Either use contribute to use him in a shutdown role and try to build a more offensive other top 4 pairing

Or

B) Play him with an offensive top 4 dman on a top pairing

- Nucker101


Asking Tanev to generate offence is like asking MacKenzie Stewart to play offense. Sit back grab the popcorn and be ready to wait a long long time
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
Asking Tanev to generate offence is like asking MacKenzie Stewart and Luca Sbisa to play in the NHL. Sit back grab the popcorn and be ready to wait a long long time
- VANTEL



Fixed



And I'm not asking him to play offense. He's great at what he does.


Anyone who wants him gone and think he's easily replaceable needs to find a new sport to watch.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
He was part of a soft D . He is part of the problem. You want to change my opinion then WIN
- VANTEL


Honestly how do you rank Hjalmarson and Brodin in terms of Dmen in the league?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
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And I'm not asking him to play offense. He's great at what he does.


Anyone who wants him gone and think he's easily replaceable needs to find a new sport to watch.

- Nucker101


Tanev is solid - he can't be everything to everyone. I don't care if he plays a safe game the results speak for themselves. Put it this way, I would take Tanev over Franson every day of the week and twice on Sunday
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:30 PM ET
Tanev is solid - he can't be everything to everyone. I don't care if he plays a safe game the results speak for themselves. Put it this way, I would take Tanev over Franson every day of the week and twice on Sunday
- Zogg

Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
Honestly how do you rank Hjalmarson and Brodin in terms of Dmen in the league?
- belcherbd


Hjalmarson is a stud

Brodin (will hopefully) become a very solid 3/4 defenseman <<< achh, my bad, I thought for some reason you are referring to Brendan Dillon lol (senility sets in, yes)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
The thing about Tanev he is a very good defender. He has a strong positional game but all in all he is mostly just a defender. He won't make opponents pay a price , or lead the rush with an end to end rush. He is part of the first pairing with another player who is as creative as a 12 year old. Maybe our best defenseman Hamhuis is very much like Tanev, a very good defender who is positionaly sound. Our bottom three D Core are basically AHL players.

This tells me with this lineup that you will be chasing most of the night. You won't generate or intimidate but instead they are going to frustrate , so you may as well turn off the tv and Masterbate .

I don't mind Tanev as a 3/4 but the rest need to go
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
Honestly how do you rank Hjalmarson and Brodin in terms of Dmen in the league?
- belcherbd

3/4 Dmen not 1/2
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
Hjalmarson is a stud

Brodin (will hopefully) become a very sold 3/4 defenseman

- Zogg

Brodin is already a very solid 3/4 IMO, I believe he plays with Suter and they form a legit top pairing.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
3/4 Dmen not 1/2
- VANTEL

2/3*

Brodin is Minny's #2 dman on a good team and Hjalarmsson is considered #3 in CHI on an elite team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
Patrick Roy's beard
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 7:42 PM ET
2/3*

Brodin is Minny's #2 dman on a good team and Hjalarmsson is considered #3 in CHI on an elite team.

- Nucker101

A first pairing has to generate scoring chances and results. Between the two of them they have to figure out how to do it. If your first pair are just defenders then that will dictate how your night is going to be
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 26 @ 7:44 PM ET
As blinded as you claim others are about Sbisa , you are the same with Tanev. You defend him like he is a top 20 Dman in the league.


I would gladly trade everyone of our Dmen in a blink of an eye. This team is not built for playoffs. Your boy Tanev looked just as rattled as any other Dmen during that calgary series

- VANTEL


I gotta agree with Nucker, Tanev is solid. It's not his fault that the entire roster is embarrassingly unphysical. You listed a while back all of the different attributes that your ideal D core would have and I believe safe, positionally sound with an excellent first pass (I might be paraphrasing) was top of the list. Is Tanev Subban? No. But he is a hell of a good component and as depressing as it is, probably our best D.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 7:45 PM ET
A first pairing has to generate scoring chances and results. Between the two of them they have to figure out how to do it. If your first pair are just defenders then that will dictate how your night is going to be
- VANTEL

I agree. That's why I suggested he can only be on your top pairing if you have a good PMD that isn't a liability defensively like Suter/Brodin in Minny. Or anchoring the 2nd pairing with a guy like Edler in a shutdown role.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 26 @ 7:46 PM ET
Tanev is solid - he can't be everything to everyone. I don't care if he plays a safe game the results speak for themselves. Put it this way, I would take Tanev over Franson every day of the week and twice on Sunday
- Zogg


Say yes to drugs; say no to Franson.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 7:47 PM ET
I gotta agree with Nucker, Tanev is solid. It's not his fault that the entire roster is embarrassingly unphysical. You listed a while back all of the different attributes that your ideal D core would have and I believe safe, positionally sound with an excellent first pass (I might be paraphrasing) was top of the list. Is Tanev Subban? No. But he is a hell of a good component and as depressing as it is, probably our best D.
- CubanBuffet


I am not criticizing Tanev. I am mostly having fun bugging Nucker but I do like Tanev.

I don't think you have have 3 Tanevs on a team but Two is ok as long as they are not paired together as a top pair
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 26 @ 7:51 PM ET
I am not criticizing Tanev. I am mostly having fun bugging Nucker but I do like Tanev.

I don't think you have have 3 Tanevs on a team but Two is ok as long as they are not paired together as a top pair

- VANTEL


Oh okay. I will put my nunchucks away.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
Tanev is solid - he can't be everything to everyone. I don't care if he plays a safe game the results speak for themselves. Put it this way, I would take Tanev over Franson every day of the week and twice on Sunday
- Zogg

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
Say yes to drugs; say no to Franson.
- CubanBuffet

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 26 @ 8:04 PM ET
Brodin is already a very solid 3/4 IMO, I believe he plays with Suter and they form a legit top pairing.
- Nucker101

I'd take brodin over Hjalmersson
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 26 @ 8:05 PM ET
Say yes to drugs; say no to Franson.
- CubanBuffet

Franson is pathetic
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 8:09 PM ET
Oh okay. I will put my nunchucks away.
- CubanBuffet



Just payback for all the Sbisa female doging
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 26 @ 8:10 PM ET
Oh okay. I will put my nunchucks away.
- CubanBuffet


Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 26 @ 8:11 PM ET
You think the Jets would do Hansen for Enstrom?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
Just payback for all the Sbisa female doging
- VANTEL

He sucks
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