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bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

May 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
is a polyester suit that much in the right direction?
- Michael Pachla


Everyone's a closet Disco fan.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
So be it. Makes the pens look bad. No compensation from a disparaged NJ club for shero? Now you are trying to poach from a club rich with picks?

I stated in the last board i dont believe the next head coach is the one who takes them to the promise land anyways. (echoed by pachla in this blog)

- ieetbred

Is it possible that the contract structure was different as far as compensation goes? Honestly I think they're pretty stupid for not taking a pick from Jersey if that were not the case. They could have packaged them(yours and NJ's)with something else to move up. All about assets in todays NHL.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
Ahh yes you are correct, sorry about that. Messed the money part up.... Even with doing that i think there is a real possibility that you get both of them with there cap struggles and them desperatley wanting to sign williams
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

That would be amazing, but I suspect they would match on Toffoli.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Everyone's a closet Disco fan.
- bobmack13

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Where does it say we got Sutter ?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Where does it say we got Sutter ?
- SABRES 89


the internet?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
A 3rd rounder in 2017 would be the obvious choice.
- jfkst1


I doubt Pitt goes for that though. Based on the reports, they wanted the pick this year, but we don't have one to give.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
Where does it say we got Sutter ?
- SABRES 89

we have enough third liners
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
the internet?
- Michael Pachla

Working no time to search
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

May 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
That would be amazing, but I suspect they would match on Toffoli.
- Pierceme69



Then what happens with Williams? They have some serious cap issues... and getting Jones isnt a bad outcome if they do that
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
The money doesn't come off the books if Murray says thanks but no thanks if Pittsburgh demands a third round pick as compensation.

I really don't think Murray would let that be a stumbling block if this is the guy he really wants but it is an option.

And again, I have no issue with Pittsburgh playing by the rules and asking for compensation. My problem is with the rule. It is a dumb rule.

- The Don

Of course not but I doubt Murray says no over a third? Kind of sends the wrong message if he does I'd think.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 28 @ 2:26 PM ET
Kevin Sundher
Matt Mackenzie
Corey Fienhage and
Corey Tropp disagree

- homiedclown


I'm not sure where you're going with this. Of those 4 (all of which were 3rd rounders) only Tropp has made it to the NHL. If anything, all you've done is support my argument.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Of those 4 (all of which were 3rd rounders) only Tropp has made it to the NHL. If anything, all you've done is support my argument.
- HonkFortheGoose

third round pick is no big loss

that was my point
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

May 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
Then the Pens won't let you hire him. You wouldn't give up a third to hire Bylsma?
- Cptmjl

Nope, I agree with telling them to eat cat poop..

http://youtu.be/BOCjwHzo7y8
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

May 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
I see them as coming close to the playoffs this year... and then making them next year and possibly winning a series. Then after that for sure making the playoffs and winning at least a series.
- JVince11


With all due respect, you are out of your mind.

Are you saying Jack Eichel gives this team 30 more points next year? That's crazy. I bet they move up 5-6 in the standings in each of the next 3 years. They don't even have a starting goalie right now...how do you make that statement????
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
Where does it say we got Sutter ?
- SABRES 89

HE STINKS
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
third round pick is no big loss

that was my point

- homiedclown


That's what I said in the first place, but SF-365 pointed out Baptiste. I see both sides of it, but a 3rd rounder is a pretty big crap shoot so I wouldn't lose sleep over giving one up. Especially when you consider how many guys we've drafted over the past few years.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
With all due respect, you are out of your mind.

Are you saying Jack Eichel gives this team 30 more points next year? That's crazy. I bet they move up 5-6 in the standings in each of the next 3 years. They don't even have a starting goalie right now...how do you make that statement????

- bjm1717

eichel
reinhart
kane

all top 6 players added to this team slotting everyone else down a line


a competent coach that will try to score 4 goals


that's a great start


this conversation needs to wait til august, for the 100th time
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

May 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
Is it possible that the contract structure was different as far as compensation goes? Honestly I think they're pretty stupid for not taking a pick from Jersey if that were not the case. They could have packaged them(yours and NJ's)with something else to move up. All about assets in todays NHL.
- Cptmjl


I dont know why they didnt ask from NJ, but it looks like "hey we might have screwed that up but buffalo is ripe for snagging a pick from"

If bylsma is murrays guy and this is what it takes then it is what it is. I think the NHL will change the rule soon enough.

I wont ever understand the "logic" behind feeling entitled to compensation for something you dont want. I scrapped metal for two summers a few years back and had anyone told me "5 bucks for that broken section of fence i put at the curb with the intention of being taken by the garbage men" i would have laughed, paused, asked if they were serious, and said thanks but no thanks
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
You offer sheet Toffoli and Martin Jones at the same time for the same money, that way you only have one penalty. They either match on one and we get the other, or they sign Justin Williams and we get both. Im all about this plan
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



Can't.

You must have the picks to give if they don't match.

Since they have to be your own picks, this would be impossible.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
That's what I said in the first place, but SF-365 pointed out Baptiste. I see both sides of it, but a 3rd rounder is a pretty big crap shoot so I wouldn't lose sleep over giving one up. Especially when you consider how many guys we've drafted over the past few years.
- HonkFortheGoose

aside from max, sekera and maybe mcnabb


the 3rd rd picks have done nothing for the last 20 years for the sabres
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
Can't.

You must have the picks to give if they don't match.

Since they have to be your own picks, this would be impossible.

- dadeadhead

late
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
With all due respect, you are out of your mind.

Are you saying Jack Eichel gives this team 30 more points next year? That's crazy. I bet they move up 5-6 in the standings in each of the next 3 years. They don't even have a starting goalie right now...how do you make that statement????

- bjm1717


I don't think Eichel gives this point 30 points.

I think that adding Eichel, Kane, Reinhart, Pysyk (full time), No Meszaros, No Benoit, a full year of Bogo, a healthy Girgensons, and a healthy Gorges can add 30 points.

yes... Goalie is my biggest glaring issue right now as well but that is me assuming that TM obviously brings in someone and not use Chad Johnson as our starter.

I'd assume we have Neuvirth or Lindback back.. AT WORST case scenario.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
I don't think Eichel gives this point 30 points.

I think that adding Eichel, Kane, Reinhart, Pysyk (full time), No Meszaros, No Benoit, a full year of Bogo, a healthy Girgensons, and a healthy Gorges can add 30 points.

yes... Goalie is my biggest glaring issue right now as well but that is me assuming that TM obviously brings in someone and not use Chad Johnson as our starter.

I'd assume we have Neuvirth or Lindback back.. AT WORST case scenario.

- JVince11

your growing on me
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
your growing on me
- homiedclown


*You're

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