You guys wearing your Rag jerseys

woah baby 13 seconds in to the Quebec vs Kelowna Memorial Cup game and a hell of a fight to get it started.

A lot of those players are fairly young, and making the jump to the NHL is about a lot of things, not just ability. The NHL is a salary cap environment now. That's a factor. Developing into an NHL player is a process. Manning looks like he has some NHL potential, as does Cousins. Not sure how Murray can just be removed as a factor in the improvement of those players. Just because a player like Manning is given more offensive opportunity, due to an injury to another player, doesn't mean he's going to do well with that opportunity.
The amount of players that make the jump to the NHL from the AHL, is a very small percentage.
- MJL

I am not saying that Murray had no influence. I am saying that, in my opinion, Murray's time coaching the Phantoms has not illustrated that he is currently a superior teacher for the developing players. Heck, I'm sure that Kjell's brief time as head coach had some positive nudge.

If you want to switch the topic to development, I would challenge you to name any players who have come through the Phantoms in the past three years who you can say contributed to the Flyers. The lockout year excluded. Conversely, look at the players who came up through Jon Cooper in Norfolk and Syracuse. I will save you the trouble. many of them are playing tonight and tomorrow in Game 7's. Yes, scouting and drafting prowess is a big factor. However, if Murray's three year accomplishment list is a third pairing defenseman and a "maybe" Cousins, my point is at the very least defendable.

I work in a government office and contributing during the day is nearly impossible on my droid phone. Sorry.
- AHLTraveler

Ok. Don't forget about us

I am not saying that Murray had no influence. I am saying that, in my opinion, Murray's time coaching the Phantoms has not illustrated that he is currently a superior teacher for the developing players. Heck, I'm sure that Kjell's brief time as head coach had some positive nudge.

If you want to switch the topic to development, I would challenge you to name any players who have come through the Phantoms in the past three years who you can say contributed to the Flyers. The lockout year excluded. Conversely, look at the players who came up through Jon Cooper in Norfolk and Syracuse. I will save you the trouble. many of them are playing tonight and tomorrow in Game 7's. Yes, scouting and drafting prowess is a big factor. However, if Murray's three year accomplishment list is a third pairing defenseman and a "maybe" Cousins, my point is at the very least defendable.
- AHLTraveler

You can challenge me all you want, there has to be NHL potential talent. He isn't a deity who is going to raise someone from the dead!
You seem like a knowledgeable fellow, I'm sure I don't have to point out the talent discrepancy between those TB players, and the players that Murray has had to work with recently. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Murray hasn't been able to polish a turd into gold, so therefore he's not a good developmental coach.

Let's go Bolts!

You can challenge me all you want, there has to be NHL potential talent. He isn't a deity who is going to raise someone from the dead!
You seem like a knowledgeable fellow, I'm sure I don't have to point out the talent discrepancy between those TB players, and the players that Murray has had to work with recently. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Murray hasn't been able to polish a turd into gold, so therefore he's not a good developmental coach.
- MJL

alt and hagg aren't nhl worthy?

Anyone done a Tough Mudder?

For some reason I agreed to do one in the Fall and that seems logical for a round UC Engineer like me.

alt and hagg aren't nhl worthy?
- JoeRussomanno

Don't try and make sense of it

Like hakstol I'm hoping the LHV hire is someone I never heard of

Like hakstol I'm hoping the LHV hire is someone I never heard of
- Just5

How about Greg Ireland (Owen Sound Attack)

steve coates for assistant coach... u guys play like poop u sit on the bench with coatsey.

steve coates for assistant coach... u guys play like poop u sit on the bench with coatsey.
- JoeRussomanno

I assume a local beer league needs a coach?

Don't try and make sense of it
- PhillySportsGuy

in my 3 some years of posting here ive learned not to get too serious or expect airtight logic 24/7 from ANYONE... cept for maybe ob of course lol!

How about Greg Ireland (Owen Sound Attack)


- ob18

fine choice. Thoughts on Kyle Connor buttons #6?

fine choice. Thoughts on Kyle Connor buttons #6?
- Just5

I'd be fine with it.

I assume a local beer league needs a coach?
- ob18

cmon sitting on the bench listening to that guy yap bout what you can do better?!... id run into a burning house falling down not to have to listen to that! lol

in my 3 some years of posting here ive learned not to get too serious or expect airtight logic 24/7 from ANYONE... cept for maybe ob of course lol!
- JoeRussomanno

No one likes a suck up

No one likes a suck up
- PhillySportsGuy

no one?!

no one?!
- JoeRussomanno

No

No
- ob18

damned if i do damned if I don't

steve coates for assistant coach... u guys play like poop u sit on the bench with coatsey.
- JoeRussomanno

it's the ideal place for him to be. that way, he can look over everyone's shoulder at the same time.

it's the ideal place for him to be. that way, he can look over everyone's shoulder at the same time.
- hammarby31

i forgot to add... yea and we don't have to hear him anymore

Also did Lappy get fired? I thought he was the assistant?
- Giroux_Is_God

ty

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