mayorofangrytown
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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NHL readiness is far down on the priority list especially for this team. - Just5
It gives you an idea at his progress in comparison to other forwards at the draft. You don't have to worry about him developing an NHL body like some of the prospects. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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They should really commit to clearing money and getting picks/prospects even if it means taking a step back this year and/or next year - PhillySportsGuy
Yay yeah! |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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lets not go sucking each others Richards just yet, gentlemen - KINGKENZO
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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What are the chances someone falls in the draft like Cout did? - nails
Could happen. Any one of Marner, Provorov, Barzal, Hanifin, Crouse, Connor could go from top 5 to 10th or so. It seems to happen with someone every year.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I'm still with Provorov & Barzal. Rewatching highlights, I might slide Zacha or Crouse higher, but they won't pass those two. - Jsaquella
Yup, I like Crouse a lot, but I still have Hanifin, Strome, Marner, Provorov, and Barzal ahead of him on my list.
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Yay yeah! - jmatchett383
I can't wait to go 4 of 5 seasons out of the playoffs. Was 1990 really all that long ago that it's time for a reboot? |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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$3 mil, possibly someone matches
$3.375, no way jose - Streit2ThePoint
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it has to do with what the other team would offer, not what the Flyers offer.
So, say the Flyers offer MDZ $3M and he says no. Another team comes in at $3.36M (2nd round compensation). The Flyers can't force them to go to $3.7M for the higher compensation, they can either match or get a 2nd rounder. Correct? They can't set the market outside of the 10% qualifier. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Could happen. Any one of Marner, Provorov, Barzal, Hanifin, Crouse, Connor could go from top 5 to 10th or so. It seems to happen with someone every year. - BiggE
With those numbers it seems like a given that one will fall 3 spots. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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I can't wait to go 4 of 5 seasons out of the playoffs. Was 1990 really all that long ago that it's time for a reboot? - mayorofangrytown
Sadly, it was. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I can't wait to go 4 of 5 seasons out of the playoffs. Was 1990 really all that long ago that it's time for a reboot? - mayorofangrytown
Honestly, if they go 4/5 seasons out of the playoffs to be a legit contender for 7-8 years, I'm all for it. That said, I think this team is a playoff bubble team right now. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Re the draft: I'm just hoping Hextall can swing a deal to upgrade the Tampa pick into the top 15. That would really be sweet.
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Honestly, if they go 4/5 seasons out of the playoffs to be a legit contender for 7-8 years, I'm all for it. That said, I think this team is a playoff bubble team right now. - jmatchett383
That's what I said last year. Did they really seem like they just missed last season? |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it has to do with what the other team would offer, not what the Flyers offer.
So, say the Flyers offer MDZ $3M and he says no. Another team comes in at $3.36M (2nd round compensation). The Flyers can't force them to go to $3.7M for the higher compensation, they can either match or get a 2nd rounder. Correct? They can't set the market outside of the 10% qualifier. - jmatchett383
The qualifier just ensures the Flyers keep his rights. For an offer sheet, another team needs to make the offer, and have Del Zotto sign it. Once that happens, the Flyers get a week to match or they get the compensation for whatever the sheet was worth. |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it has to do with what the other team would offer, not what the Flyers offer.
So, say the Flyers offer MDZ $3M and he says no. Another team comes in at $3.36M (2nd round compensation). The Flyers can't force them to go to $3.7M for the higher compensation, they can either match or get a 2nd rounder. Correct? They can't set the market outside of the 10% qualifier. - jmatchett383
That's how I see it. So if the Flyers did offer him $3.375 it would be a 1st and 3rd if another team wanted to match. Something I don't see happening. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Re the draft: I'm just hoping Hextall can swing a deal to upgrade the Tampa pick into the top 15. That would really be sweet. - BiggE
I think he has a solid opportunity to move into the early twenties. Higher than 15? I'm not sure what else you'd have to give up to get there or if it would be worth it. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it has to do with what the other team would offer, not what the Flyers offer.
So, say the Flyers offer MDZ $3M and he says no. Another team comes in at $3.36M (2nd round compensation). The Flyers can't force them to go to $3.7M for the higher compensation, they can either match or get a 2nd rounder. Correct? They can't set the market outside of the 10% qualifier. - jmatchett383
Correct, the team making the offer sheet and Del Zotto agree to a contract, and submit that to the team holding his rights. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Andrew Gross
@AGrossRecord
Mats Zuccarello had a brain contusion and small skull fracture. Is still in speech therapy. Couldn't speak after injury.
Damn |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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The qualifier just ensures the Flyers keep his rights. For an offer sheet, another team needs to make the offer, and have Del Zotto sign it. Once that happens, the Flyers get a week to match or they get the compensation for whatever the sheet was worth. - Jsaquella
Ah ok, thanks. |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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Andrew Gross
@AGrossRecord
Mats Zuccarello had a brain contusion and small skull fracture. Is still in speech therapy. Couldn't speak after injury.
Damn - Jsaquella
Wow |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Honestly, if they go 4/5 seasons out of the playoffs to be a legit contender for 7-8 years, I'm all for it. That said, I think this team is a playoff bubble team right now. - jmatchett383
The 90-94 was really an anomaly. By the end of 91-92, they were moving in the right direction and had a very good chance of being a playoff team the following year. However, once they made the Lindros deal, they knew that they were taking a step backwards to take a future leap forwards.
What drove me nuts, and most likely cost Farwell his job, was the hiring of Terry Simpson prior to the 93-94 season. The 92-93 team finished strong under Bill Dineen and I think, even with their goaltending issues, Dineen would have got them into the playoffs that year. However, Farwell felt that Dineen was too "easy" on the players and went with the stricter Simpson. Bad decision.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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That's how I see it. So if the Flyers did offer him $3.375 it would be a 1st and 3rd if another team wanted to match. Something I don't see happening. - Streit2ThePoint
Another team doesn't get to match. Another team has two avenues to acquire an RFA from another team. Trade or OS. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I think he has a solid opportunity to move into the early twenties. Higher than 15? I'm not sure what else you'd have to give up to get there or if it would be worth it. - mayorofangrytown
I hear you, but I'm not sure it's worth giving up any quality assets to move up from 29 or 30 to somewhere in the 21-24 range. I just have about 16 or so players that I feel have a legit shot to be top 10 picks and I'd love to able to land 2 of em.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Andrew Gross
@AGrossRecord
Mats Zuccarello had a brain contusion and small skull fracture. Is still in speech therapy. Couldn't speak after injury.
Damn - Jsaquella
Holy poop, that's (frank)ing scary.
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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Another team doesn't get to match. Another team has two avenues to acquire an RFA from another team. Trade or OS. - MJL
ty |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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That's what I said last year. Did they really seem like they just missed last season? - mayorofangrytown
No, but I'd put money on Read playing more to the tune of his first 3 seasons as opposed to last. I'd hope the Schenn/Vinny on the top line experiment is over. I think we get at least 4th line NHL quality play from Umberger. Berube is no longer the coach.
That could be enough of a difference for a W.C. spot. |
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