I'd rather have Pysyk than Mantha.


Especially if Gorges plays the way he did last season
- CaptainRivet

I'd rather have Mantha TBH. 3-4 D-men can be had in trade.

Plus moving Pysyk leaves you with

Zadorov
Risto
Bogo
McCabe

As your 4 young defenseman. PLus you can possibly grab one this year.

The Sabres scoring wing depth is pretty bare right now in terms of high level talent.

Absolutely.

However, that didn't stop me from wanting to see players show they can actually play. Larsson's and Ristolainen's development toward the end was extremely fun to watch. Gionta tore it up too, which you want to see from your veteran and captain.

Gorges wasn't Weber bad. But you need a steadying presence on defense, and that's why you keep Pysyk IMO.

edit: Forgot he was playing injured. We'll see what he brings next season I guess.
- CaptainRivet

he'll be in a much better position playing in a second-pairing/#5 role next season

What would it take to go after a guy like "Maroon" spelling?? from Anaheim? I loved his play, heady guy with great size and wall presence! I'd also entertain helping Boston with its Cap if we could work out a deal for Lucic!

What would it take to go after a guy like "Maroon" spelling?? from Anaheim? I loved his play, heady guy with great size and wall presence! I'd also entertain helping Boston with its Cap if we could work out a deal for Lucic!
- MEBSabresFAN

I dont beleive that Anaheim is in cap trouble. Other than teh Kings though I dont know who is. Are the Rags? COuld Nash be had as we need a RW badly

I dont beleive that Anaheim is in cap trouble. Other than teh Kings though I dont know who is. Are the Rags? COuld Nash be had as we need a RW badly
- hubie

Oh god.....not the Nash discussion again.

Absolutely.

However, that didn't stop me from wanting to see players show they can actually play. Larsson's and Ristolainen's development toward the end was extremely fun to watch. Gionta tore it up too, which you want to see from your veteran and captain.

Gorges wasn't Weber bad. But you need a steadying presence on defense, and that's why you keep Pysyk IMO.

edit: Forgot he was playing injured. We'll see what he brings next season I guess.
- CaptainRivet

Imo Weber is a good defenseman…we he's playing his role as the bottom pair d man. Both him and Gorges play a similar non-top pair defensive position. On an awful possession team forced to play a top pairing role they'll look out of place bc they are. I think if health both should play a nice role next year

he'll be in a much better position playing in a second-pairing/#5 role next season
- Michael Pachla

Say you make the Pysyk and a 3rd rounder for Mantha trade.

Call Chicago and offer 31, and a prospect for Hjalmarsson

Then do the ROR trade.

You add this offseason:
Eichel
Mantha
Hjalmarsson
ROR

Oh god.....not the Nash discussion again.
- HonkFortheGoose

Just a big neeed on the right side

Say you make the Pysyk and a 3rd rounder for Mantha trade.

Call Chicago and offer 31, and a prospect for Hjalmarsson

Then do the ROR trade.

You add this offseason:
Eichel
Mantha
Hjalmarsson
ROR
- ImThatGuy

If Mantha really is that big of an issue for Detroit right now, then I'm not giving them an NHL ready Defenseman and a pick. That just seems really high for a guy who's work ethic has been pointed out as a problem by his current GM.

If Mantha really is that big of an issue for Detroit right now, then I'm not giving them an NHL ready Defenseman and a pick. That just seems really high for a guy who's work ethic has been pointed out as a problem by his current GM.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm willing to take that risk. Buffalo badly needs top 6 wingers.

I'm willing to take that risk. Buffalo badly needs top 6 wingers.
- ImThatGuy

We also have very little in the way of defense behind Pysyk/Ruhwedel/McCabe. There's not the wiggle room everyone seems to think we have back there. Especially when you take into account that defensemen typically take longer to develop.

If Mantha really is that big of an issue for Detroit right now, then I'm not giving them an NHL ready Defenseman and a pick. That just seems really high for a guy who's work ethic has been pointed out as a problem by his current GM.
- HonkFortheGoose

Sounds like Armia...

who for mantha then, 89?
- Michael Pachla

Pass on Mantha, we need other area's first.

I'll take Joe Thornton or Marleau over Rick " I vanish " Nash.

if not mistaken, murray's after players in a specific age-range this season...wanna say that 24-25 seems to be the ceiling...mantha will be 21 in September, which, for me, is right in Murray's wheel house
- Michael Pachla

I get it that he basically wants players developing in waves.
Every 2 years, you could make trades and have someone in the minors looking to earn a spot with the big club. Or, if we don't have room for a player in the minors, trade them and restock the pool.
Any idea where we're at in regards to the 50 pro contract limit?

If Mantha really is that big of an issue for Detroit right now, then I'm not giving them an NHL ready Defenseman and a pick. That just seems really high for a guy who's work ethic has been pointed out as a problem by his current GM.
- HonkFortheGoose

that was my original point with the quote about his work ethic and the yuckface.
I feel like we need someone to play yesterday. Not a guy who might pan out in 2-3 years.

I'll take Joe Thornton or Marleau over Rick " I vanish " Nash.
- SABRES 89

How Dare you 89!

You know that the Soccer Dude has a "Man-Crush" on him.....

According to him, Nash has always played up to his 7.8 Million and isn't a leader on the Rangers.

It was Hayes, Krueger, and a variety of 4th line players that let the team down!

Say you make the Pysyk and a 3rd rounder for Mantha trade.

Call Chicago and offer 31, and a prospect for Hjalmarsson

Then do the ROR trade.

You add this offseason:
Eichel
Mantha
Hjalmarsson
ROR
- ImThatGuy

You lost me here.

I remember Detroit fans going nuts on me when I said he is lazy. It's been his issue since juniors.

I would do Pysyk or McCabe for him, but not much more

How Dare you 89!

You know that the Soccer Dude has a "Man-Crush" on him.....

According to him, Nash has always played up to his 7.8 Million and isn't a leader on the Rangers.

It was Hayes, Krueger, and a variety of 4th line players that let the team down!
- MEBSabresFAN

Nash should be russian, 5 games in a week and maybe show up for 2 of them. I'm glad the Rangers are stuck with him.

How Dare you 89!

You know that the Soccer Dude has a "Man-Crush" on him.....

According to him, Nash has always played up to his 7.8 Million and isn't a leader on the Rangers.

It was Hayes, Krueger, and a variety of 4th line players that let the team down!
- MEBSabresFAN

I'm assuming you mean Kreider, who had less points than the invisible Nash

You lost me here.
- TheSabresTaco

I lost myself well before that.

In fact I don't even know what I am doing right now.

Nash should be russian, 5 games in a week and maybe show up for 2 of them. I'm glad the Rangers are stuck with him.
- SABRES 89

Well he scored 42 goals, so I think he showed up for more than 40% of his games played

I lost myself well before that.

In fact I don't even know what I am doing right now.
- ImThatGuy

Chicago would let Saad go before moving Hjalmarsson

Seabrook is a UFA after next season and Hjalmarsson is younger

Well he scored 42 goals, so I think he showed up for more than 40% of his games played
- sbroads24

Big deal, fell a sleep in the playoffs when it counted the most.