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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:19 PM ET
From 2014 but some real good insight on MG. This has nothing to do with feelings, why would you want to deal with a tool who overvalued players, and alienated himself from his counterparts? I think Murray from ANA was as perplexed by this clown as all of the other GM's in the NHL. Except Dale Talon who loved dealing with him as much a he enjoyed repeatedly bending him over in every trade. Edit; Gillis was in the "wrong business"

http://vansunsportsblogs....anucks-during-2011-final/

- VanHockeyGuy


Meh, a premature celebration amongst your own guys is fine. It's a bit stupid but it's not like he said anything publicly. And there's plenty of speculation that Aquilini had a say in the Kesler/ANA deal at the TDL and it makes sense since clearly he was considering firing Gillis.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
Gillis lost more trades then he won, and his unwillingness to simply meet other teams demands led to two years of goalie BS.
- CubanBuffet


He put his own personal arrogance before the team. Simple as that.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
He put his own personal arrogance before the team. Simple as that.
- VanHockeyGuy

It's been well documented that the NHL GM club is definitely an "old boys club" to which he was not welcome. Right or wrong.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Are we seriously going full Gillis in here today. Depressing.


How about those Comets?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:40 PM ET
It's been well documented that the NHL GM club is definitely an "old boys club" to which he was not welcome. Right or wrong.
- LeftCoaster


Pretty much, he was an outsider. He probably wasn't liked as an agent, which carried into his GM role. Combine that with his personality and it's tough to be in good standing with your peers. The good news is that parts fixed now.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:44 PM ET
Are we seriously going full Gillis in here today. Depressing.


How about those Comets?

- thundachunk


That's pretty well all we will hear about until after the Canucks Management announce they have finished their team meetings.

Watch for this...


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
He put his own personal arrogance before the team. Simple as that.
- VanHockeyGuy

Are those two things not tied at the hip anyway? Hard to be viewed as a good GM when you don't make the right moves for your team...
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
Are we seriously going full Gillis in here today. Depressing.


How about those Comets?

- thundachunk

Like I said earlier in this thread. Im befuddled by our prospects success.

It simply doesnt make any sense.

Our drafting has been so bad for so long that this is so unfamiliar to me.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Like I said earlier in this thread. Im befuddled by our prospects success.

It simply doesnt make any sense.

- vancity787


Markstrom has been huge for that team, he's like the AHL's Carey Price. Give the Habs Ryan Miller instead of Price and where would they be? Plus they have some very good vets, Saguinetti is a stud d-man in the AHL and O'Reilly is basically their Henrik Sedin.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Pretty much, he was an outsider. He probably wasn't liked as an agent, which carried into his GM role. Combine that with his personality and it's tough to be in good standing with your peers. The good news is that parts fixed now.
- VanHockeyGuy



How do we know the other owners don't like Aquilini?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:54 PM ET


How do we know if the other owners don't like Aquilini.

- A_SteamingLombardi


If I were an opposing team, I'd love him.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
Markstrom has been huge for that team, he's like the AHL's Carey Price. Give the Habs Ryan Miller instead of Price and where would they be? Plus they have some very good vets, Saguinetti is a stud d-man in the AHL and O'Reilly is basically their Henrik Sedin.
- Nucker101

O'rielly does not get talked about enough.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
O'rielly does not get talked about enough.
- vancity787

That's because he hasn't screw over the Canucks in the past present or future.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:06 PM ET
That's because he hasn't screw over the Canucks in the past present or future.
- A_SteamingLombardi

He's just one more obstacle in the path of MacKenzie Stewart's future NHL career.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
Markstrom has been huge for that team, he's like the AHL's Carey Price. Give the Habs Ryan Miller instead of Price and where would they be? Plus they have some very good vets, Saguinetti is a stud d-man in the AHL and O'Reilly is basically their Henrik Sedin.
- Nucker101


Saguinetti FA
O'Reilly FA
Markstrom (via trade)

No one drafted by Canucks.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jun 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
Just want to throw this out there - Did anyone else hear that almost ALL the players in their exit interviews last year, asked for a #1 goalie. They wanted management to bring in a true #1 and thus the reason for miller. They didnt want to run with Lack and Markstrom.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
Markstrom has been huge for that team, he's like the AHL's Carey Price. Give the Habs Ryan Miller instead of Price and where would they be? Plus they have some very good vets, Saguinetti is a stud d-man in the AHL and O'Reilly is basically their Henrik Sedin.
- Nucker101

Green coaches an exciting style of hockey. He has really changed it over time and has become a really good coach.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
Markstrom has been huge for that team, he's like the AHL's Carey Price. Give the Habs Ryan Miller instead of Price and where would they be? Plus they have some very good vets, Saguinetti is a stud d-man in the AHL and O'Reilly is basically their Henrik Sedin.
- Nucker101



These guys have no NHL game?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Just want to throw this out there - Did anyone else hear that almost ALL the players in their exit interviews last year, asked for a #1 goalie. They wanted management to bring in a true #1 and thus the reason for miller. They didnt want to run with Lack and Markstrom.
- anavar


To cover up for their defence, or lack thereof? If that's truly the case this team is messed up more that I had envisioned.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Saguinetti FA
O'Reilly FA
Markstrom (via trade)

No one drafted by Canucks.

- VanHockeyGuy


Gaunce, Corrado and Grenier played pretty big roles. Shinkaruk and Virtanen were more like role players although Virtanen got some decent minutes in the last couple of games.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
That's pretty well all we will hear about until after the Canucks Management announce they have finished their team meetings.

Watch for this...



- VanHockeyGuy


You a Dan Brown fan or something?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Just want to throw this out there - Did anyone else hear that almost ALL the players in their exit interviews last year, asked for a #1 goalie. They wanted management to bring in a true #1 and thus the reason for miller. They didnt want to run with Lack and Markstrom.
- anavar


I heard about this, but who reported it? Also, players are probably better suited to just playing and not running the team. Otherwise all draft picks and prospects would get traded for veteran help.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 1:19 PM ET


These guys have no NHL game?

- CubanBuffet


Hey but their in the AHL finals, and it's on TV. And the NHL team sucks!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
You a Dan Brown fan or something?
- CubanBuffet

Catholic extremist.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
Green coaches an exciting style of hockey. He has really changed it over time and has become a really good coach.
- thundachunk


Green is a really good coach. The Griffins probably had more firepower than the Comets yet Utica's team play and system along with Markstrom's goaltending overcame that.
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