CanucksArmy ‏@CanucksArmy · 1m1 minute ago
If @CliffRonning7 says the Canucks need Barzal *thumbs up emoji* then that's good enough for us.

Agree
- LeftCoaster

Even if Benning is somehow able to trade up in the draft, I hope he takes a defenceman.

Friedman: "I think there will be a lot of trading. I really do."

He is referring to the draft. Can't wait!!

Lack and Forsling. Neither of who will be on the Canucks next year most likely.
- CubanBuffet

That's simply not enough for the amount of time he's been employed as the Head European scout.

Even if Benning is somehow able to trade up in the draft, I hope he takes a defenceman.
- CubanBuffet

Love this kids speed and IQ but it's extremely unrealistic to think he'll be a Canuck pick.

And yes we need a high-end defenseman for sure!!

Friedman: "I think there will be a lot of trading. I really do."

He is referring to the draft. Can't wait!!
- Marwood

Me too!! I hate the Hawks but I hope they sweep the Bolts which will start the off-season business.

That's simply not enough for the amount of time he's been employed as the Head European scout.
- LeftCoaster

I don't disagree, although it's impossible to know how much of it is incompetence and how much is management deciding not to draft the players that he recommends.

- seriously though...what has he done other than Hansen and Edler over the past ten years? Sweet (frank) all...that's what.
- LeftCoaster

To be fair, outside of Rodin I don't think they've really spent any high picks on Swedes.

I don't disagree, although it's impossible to know how much of it is incompetence and how much is management deciding not to draft the players that he recommends.
- CubanBuffet

True...

http://canucksarmy.com/20...cks-top-defense-prospects

I just doubt Juice will waive, I wasn't suggesting trading down, just acquiring more than one 2nd rounder.
- belcherbd

I like the two teams you mentioned, he went to college in Ohio and Ottawa is close to home, both of those teams could be playoff teams next year as well if things go their way so he could potentially be convinced. Both of them need a d-man as well. And CBJ management has a hard-on for guys with the gritty/intangibles rep.

True...
- LeftCoaster

Do we have anyone scouting the KHL? With the rubble crashing and the league struggling to pay its players we might be able to take advantage.

I just doubt Juice will waive, I wasn't suggesting trading down, just acquiring more than one 2nd rounder.
- belcherbd

I think that he would waive but the list of teams that he would waive for would probably leave a lot to be desired.

Do we have anyone scouting the KHL? With the rubble crashing and the league struggling to pay its players we might be able to take advantage.
- CubanBuffet

One Russian scout, Sergei Chibisov.

One Russian scout, Sergei Chibisov.
- LeftCoaster

Never heard of him. That's not a good sign.

- seriously though...what has he done other than Hansen and Edler over the past ten years? Sweet (frank) all...that's what.
- LeftCoaster

I have a hard to making a judging one scout over the other as we have no idea how the conversations go, so I am not defending Delorme or any of the staff.

That said the nucks have picked 16 guys in the last 10 years out of Europe. Only one of those has been in the 2nd, 3 in the 3rd and the rest 5th or higher.

Getting 2 very good NHLers, a number of guys who have had good careers in Europe and a few who still have a chance when you are picking 5th round or later most the time out of 16 isn't that bad in my mind.

I think if you compared 16 players taken from NA around those picks you would see a similar success rate.

Hansen 287th overall
Edler 91 overall
Bliznak 205 overall
Simek 167 overall
Shirokov 163
Rahimi 82
Kablukov 146
Froshaug 161
Andersson 143
Rodin 53
Iilahti 175
Tommernes 210
Westerholm 180
Blomstrand 120
Cederholm 145
Forsling 126
Tryamkin 66

Never heard of him. That's not a good sign.
- CubanBuffet

I don't want lazy Russians anyway.

One Russian scout, Sergei Chibisov.
- LeftCoaster

That dude has a sweet job, doesn't have to do poop knowing the team never takes Russians.

This is reportedly footage of him when Benning asked him about Tryamkin at the draft table last June:

I don't want lazy Russians anyway.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Never heard of him. That's not a good sign.
- CubanBuffet

Ron Delorme: 1990 - Present
Thomas Gradin: 1994 - Present
Sergei Chibisov: 1995 - Present
Jack McCartan: 1990 - 2006
Ken Slater: 1990 - 2005
Jim Eagle: 1994? - 2008
Barry Dean: 2000 - Present
Mario Marois: 2001 - Present
Tim Lenardon: 2000 - 2008
Ed McColgan: 1990 - 1998
Ray Miron: 1994? - 1998
Dave Morrison: 2000 - 2004
Daryl Stanley: 2000 - 2004
Jack Birch: 1994? - 1999
Harold Snepsts: 2006 - Present
Branislav Pulis: 2005 - 2008
Gary Lupul: 2004 - 2007
John McMorrow: 2004 - 2006
Mike McHugh: 2000 - 2003
Noel Price: 1994? - 1998
Mike Backman: 1995 - 1997
Ross Mahoney: 1994? - 1996
Al McDonald: 1994? - 1996
Brian Chapman: 2008 - Present
Frank Kollar: 2008 - Present
Rick Lee: 1997 - 1998
Jim Pavlenko: 1990 - 1994
Raymond Payne: 2008 - Present
Harkie Singh: 2008 - Present
Paul Guay: 2004 - 2004
Shawn Dineen: 1999 - 1999
Mats Dahlberg: 1994? - 1994
Paul MacIntosh: 1990 - 1993?
Scott Carter: 1990 - 1993?

I don't want lazy Russians anyway.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I could give a shlt where our players come from. If our scouts aren't turning over every stone possible to try and find players then they aren't doing their jobs.

Lack and Forsling. Neither of who will be on the Canucks next year most likely.
- CubanBuffet

Considering they traded Forsling to Chicago, I would say he is a very outside chance to make the Canucks next year.

I like the two teams you mentioned, he went to college in Ohio and Ottawa is close to home, both of those teams could be playoff teams next year as well if things go their way so he could potentially be convinced. Both of them need a d-man as well. And CBJ management has a hard-on for guys with the gritty/intangibles rep.
- Nucker101

Those were my thoughts exactly, but it's still just a wish and a prayer, I have a feeling we see a very similar team next fall. We will be sold on the youth movement of Baertschi, Clendening, Markstrom, Corrado as new additions.

I have a hard to making a judging one scout over the other as we have no idea how the conversations go, so I am not defending Delorme or any of the staff.

That said the nucks have picked 16 guys in the last 10 years out of Europe. Only one of those has been in the 2nd, 3 in the 3rd and the rest 5th or higher.

Getting 2 very good NHLers, a number of guys who have had good careers in Europe and a few who still have a chance when you are picking 5th round or later most the time out of 16 isn't that bad in my mind.

I think if you compared 16 players taken from NA around those picks you would see a similar success rate.

Hansen 287th overall
Edler 91 overall
Bliznak 205 overall
Simek 167 overall
Shirokov 163
Rahimi 82
Kablukov 146
Froshaug 161
Andersson 143
Rodin 53
Iilahti 175
Tommernes 210
Westerholm 180
Blomstrand 120
Cederholm 145
Forsling 126
Tryamkin 66
- belcherbd

Not good enough! Look at the other teams that HAVE drafted well in Europe and find an "IN". Never settle or this crap above is what you get.

- Nucker101

That lazy f@ck.

Those were my thoughts exactly, but it's still just a wish and a prayer, I have a feeling we see a very similar team next fall. We will be sold on the youth movement of Baertschi, Clendening, Markstrom, Corrado as new additions.
- belcherbd

You're probably right. Gun to my head, I expect Lack to be traded for a pick at the draft and that's about it. Hope I'm wrong.