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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
OK Miss Cleo.

What position are we drafting next year? Just so we know whether we need to stockpile 1sts or not

- TheThrill

OMG This reminds me of the James Tanner blog

We'll be drafting 30th overall as we hoist the Stanley Cup!!!!
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
You can get very good players everywhere in the draft, regardless of position, as long as you scout and develop effectively.
- lumlums

We can agree as Leaf fans that no matter who they pick, they need home runs on these two picks.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
OMG This reminds me of the James Tanner blog

We'll be drafting 30th overall as we hoist the Stanley Cup!!!!

- twiztedmike




Better get loaded up on 1sts then

EDIT: There are other blogs on this site?!
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
All busts except Liepsic
- twiztedmike


Lolz
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
Thanks, buddy.

I think this is indicative of what I do around here.

I'm a calming veteran presence. I'm mentoring the younger posters.

Mike's blog is currently going a complete rebuild. We are casting off older posters like Dozzer and Tony Fernandez who are no longer producing.

But we don't want to be like an Edmonton blog, where the young kids come in and just start posting willy-nilly, without any kind of structure. Let's be honest: those kids are never going to fulfill their promise.

We need an older guy like me to show the young kids the way. To guide them to the next level of their Hockeybuzz careers.

Sure, some negative Nellies may be upset by my $7 million a year contract, but they always miss the point: it's not just about fancy stats. I'm doing so much more.

- Atomic Wedgie


Guess who has a NTC!!!!!!!??? If you need me, I'll be at the cottage. See you at training camp, female doges.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
Thanks Leafman.

I don't ever play sound at work so I forget that the bad language is also an issue

- Aetherial

N.p. I didn't notice until Wedgie told me.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
Guess who has a NTC!!!!!!!??? If you need me, I'll be at the cottage. See you at training camp, female doges.
- 1979AD


make sure you skate at least 10 times
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
You can get very good players everywhere in the draft, regardless of position, as long as you scout and develop effectively.
- lumlums

Ummm no. You can't get good players in the later rounds if there isn't any good players in the later rounds. You make it sound like draft position isn't important. There's maybe 1 player per year picked way late that becomes something. They don't become something solely because the team knew how to develop them.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
We can agree as Leaf fans that no matter who they pick, they need home runs on these two picks.
- LeafMan

yes but there's always the hope that both will be incredible busts.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
yes but there's always the hope that both will be incredible busts.
- dt99999

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
yes but there's always the hope that both will be incredible busts.
- dt99999

Hence "as Leaf fans" DT
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
We can agree as Leaf fans that no matter who they pick, they need home runs on these two picks.
- LeafMan


Absolutely. I'd love to see them add another pick if possible and grab Barzal, My personal $0.02 puts him as being one of the potential steals of the draft. There's lots of other very intriguing prospects there that really could turn into very solid NHLers... I'm excited for the new direction anyway
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
Absolutely. I'd love to see them add another pick if possible and grab Barzal, My personal $0.02 puts him as being one of the potential steals of the draft. There's lots of other very intriguing prospects there that really could turn into very solid NHLers... I'm excited for the new direction anyway
- lumlums

BTW is your name Andrew?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
Ummm no. You can't get good players in the later rounds if there isn't any good players in the later rounds. You make it sound like draft position isn't important. There's maybe 1 player per year picked way late that becomes something. They don't become something solely because the team knew how to develop them.
- Jeropotato

When the drafts are this deep, it is the same percentage? Interesting to see going back to another very deep draft.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
Absolutely. I'd love to see them add another pick if possible and grab Barzal, My personal $0.02 puts him as being one of the potential steals of the draft. There's lots of other very intriguing prospects there that really could turn into very solid NHLers... I'm excited for the new direction anyway
- lumlums

Yea, really liking Barzal, too.

Marner, Barzal, and Nylander would be a pretty damned nice start to the forward side of the rebuilding process.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
laughs the guy who's team drafted their superstar Dman in the second round
- TheThrill



I didn't even read the post, btw.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
Ummm no. You can't get good players in the later rounds if there isn't any good players in the later rounds. You make it sound like draft position isn't important. There's maybe 1 player per year picked way late that becomes something. They don't become something solely because the team knew how to develop them.
- Jeropotato


I can see how you would feel this way, being an Oilers fan. They haven't drafted anything worthwhile in later rounds.

However, plenty of good players get drafted late, or some not at all. Just this past year we had Johnny Hockey, Mark Stone and Tyler Johnson who all fit the description. There's guys like Nyquist on Detroit as well. I'm not feeling like looking it up, but there's definitely a good amount of players who are drafted late and become important pieces
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
Hence "as Leaf fans" DD
- LeafMan



I don't know if any of you are ready to handle success.


it's safer for everyone if you remain miserable.




I'm sorry (I'm not) but it has to be that way.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
Ummm no. You can't get good players in the later rounds if there isn't any good players in the later rounds. You make it sound like draft position isn't important. There's maybe 1 player per year picked way late that becomes something. They don't become something solely because the team knew how to develop them.
- Jeropotato


But if you view it as relative to their draft position, then you absolutely can. Nobody expects a 7th round pick to turn into a superstar, but if you can take someone in the 7th and turn them into a full-time NHLer, then you've done your job. I've been impressed with the track record of Thommie Bergman (our Euro scout) who has identified some decent players with those later round (4-7) picks in recent history...
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm going to call you D-brow then... sound good?
- lumlums

Sure thing D-bag.

TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET


I didn't even read the post, btw.

- hscesq


I knew I made that typo dammit. I was Russian rushin'.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
When the drafts are this deep, it is the same percentage? Interesting to see going back to another very deep draft.
- LeafMan

Whoa....this is a deep draft...meaning you can probably get a top line player between 20 and 30....doesn't mean it's loaded with Alfreddsons in the 4th round.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
When the drafts are this deep, it is the same percentage? Interesting to see going back to another very deep draft.
- LeafMan

How do we quantify "deep"?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET


I didn't even read the post, btw.

- hscesq

I believe that.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
But if you view it as relative to their draft position, then you absolutely can. Nobody expects a 7th round pick to turn into a superstar, but if you can take someone in the 7th and turn them into a full-time NHLer, then you've done your job. I've been impressed with the track record of Thommie Bergman (our Euro scout) who has identified some decent players with those later round (4-7) picks in recent history...
- lumlums

Such as?


Also...if you turn a 7th rounder into an NHLer but miss on your 4th, 5th and 6th round picks....did you do your job then?
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