We can agree as Leaf fans that no matter who they pick, they need home runs on these two picks.
- LeafMan

Agreed

But if you view it as relative to their draft position, then you absolutely can. Nobody expects a 7th round pick to turn into a superstar, but if you can take someone in the 7th and turn them into a full-time NHLer, then you've done your job. I've been impressed with the track record of Thommie Bergman (our Euro scout) who has identified some decent players with those later round (4-7) picks in recent history...
- lumlums

Sums up my point better than I did

I believe that.
- LeafMan

Thank you. I appreciate your support.

How do we quantify "deep"?
- hscesq

Lots of scouts and hockey insiders say it is a deep draft, I have no idea how deep it goes though.

But if you view it as relative to their draft position, then you absolutely can. Nobody expects a 7th round pick to turn into a superstar, but if you can take someone in the 7th and turn them into a full-time NHLer, then you've done your job. I've been impressed with the track record of Thommie Bergman (our Euro scout) who has identified some decent players with those later round (4-7) picks in recent history...
- lumlums

What are you, some kind of doctor?

If we could somehow get another pick I'd love Hanifin, Zacha, Harkins in the first. Would be awesome.

How do we quantify "deep"?
- hscesq

More players with likely NHL careers than usual? More high end talent later in the 1st round than usual?

new blog everyone

How do we quantify "deep"?
- hscesq

We measure by balls

new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo

prove it

Sure thing Dr-bag.
- Schenn-Sational!

Cool. Cool cool cool

Lots of scouts and hockey insiders say it is a deep draft, I have no idea how deep it goes though.
- LeafMan

You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes

When the drafts are this deep, it is the same percentage? Interesting to see going back to another very deep draft.
- LeafMan

This draft expected to be a deepp draft class is mainly because of:

- 1 franchise player
- 1 super #1 C
- 3-5 that are equal/better than 1st picks other drafts
- 6-20 all 'top10' pick potential, and 20-40 being 'first round' material.

I am not sure the whole draft class (round 2-7) is considered to be better quality as other years?

What are you, some kind of doctor?
- hscesq

Some kind... not the real kind, but still some kind...

If we could somehow get another pick I'd love Hanifin, Zacha, Harkins in the first. Would be awesome.
- iTOLDu

If we get another top-10 pick, I'd love Marner & Barzal. If we get a mid-round pick... I wouldn't mind Roy or Erikson Ek

If we could somehow get another pick I'd love Hanifin, Zacha, Harkins in the first. Would be awesome.
- iTOLDu

I'd love for the Leafs to grab Hanifin at #4 and Harkins at 24..

If they get another high first rd pick, and get Barzal... I think we'd be well on our way to respectability again.

This draft expected to be a deepp draft class is mainly because of:

- 1 franchise player
- 1 super #1 C
- 3-5 that are equal/better than 1st picks other drafts
- 6-20 all 'top10' pick potential, and 20-40 being 'first round' material.

I am not sure the whole draft class (round 2-7) is considered to be better quality as other years?
- MaximusAurelius

Reported

If we get another top-10 pick, I'd love Marner & Barzal. If we get a mid-round pick... I wouldn't mind Roy or Erikson Ek
- Schenn-Sational!

It's like Christmas until we open up the present.

This draft expected to be a deepp draft class is mainly because of:

- 1 franchise player
- 1 super #1 C
- 3-5 that are equal/better than 1st picks other drafts
- 6-20 all 'top10' pick potential, and 20-40 being 'first round' material.

I am not sure the whole draft class (round 2-7) is considered to be better quality as other years?
- MaximusAurelius

if you've got 40 picks worth of 1st round material, you can expect the more average players that you'd see in other drafts get pushed down, so you'll have 2nd round talent in the 3rd, 3rd round talent in the 4th, etc.

Skill isn't a 0 sum commodity... so just because you have a talented group at the top, doesn't mean you're going to see less talent later on.

It's like Christmas until we open up the present.
- LeafMan

bold prediction:

nothing will happen trade-wise, we'll draft marner and a decent looking prospect at 24 that will take the Percy route, where most people forget he exists, and people will say teh Leafs aren't actually rebuilding anymore, because they got Babcock.

bold prediction:

nothing will happen trade-wise, we'll draft marner and a decent looking prospect at 24 that will take the Percy route, where most people forget he exists, and people will say teh Leafs aren't actually rebuilding anymore, because they got Babcock.
- Schenn-Sational!

Very shallow and silly way to draft if you ask me... what do appearances have to do with it?

if you've got 40 picks worth of 1st round material, you can expect the more average players that you'd see in other drafts get pushed down, so you'll have 2nd round talent in the 3rd, 3rd round talent in the 4th, etc.

Skill isn't a 0 sum commodity... so just because you have a talented group at the top, doesn't mean you're going to see less talent later on.
- Schenn-Sational!

Unless there was something special in the tap water in 1996, there is not a reason to believe 'all players' are better. I understand your reasoning, but it might as well be that there are 'just' 10-20players better than 'usual' and rest are 'as always' (so a drop after the 'extra' 20)

This draft expected to be a deepp draft class is mainly because of:

- 1 franchise player
- 1 super #1 C
- 3-5 that are equal/better than 1st picks other drafts
- 6-20 all 'top10' pick potential, and 20-40 being 'first round' material.

I am not sure the whole draft class (round 2-7) is considered to be better quality as other years?
- MaximusAurelius

bold predictions man... bold predictions...







oh well... see you in 4

I think the 4 sweaty bands guys in the attic with him has adversely affected him.


- LeafMan

pickled eggs and licorice will do that to you.

This draft expected to be a deepp draft class is mainly because of:

- 1 franchise player
- 1 super #1 C
- 3-5 that are equal/better than 1st picks other drafts
- 6-20 all 'top10' pick potential, and 20-40 being 'first round' material.

I am not sure the whole draft class (round 2-7) is considered to be better quality as other years?
- MaximusAurelius

The 3rd part ( about the 3-5)....not how it is at all. Go back to 2003 , the greatest draft class of all time and tell me that's true.