Dave Davis ‏@DaveDavisHockey
Eichel measured 7.1% body fat and had the top result of all participants in 5 of the tests. His 26.18 vertical jump was scary good.
- metzeric

Well a vertical jump sure comes in handy during those tight games.

Why would they take Moulson? Maybe it's just ennis, 21 and 31. If people think that's too much for a proven 40 goal scorer, you're nuts.
- ImNoTroll

Nash had a huge year. His playoff and contract (cap hit) are the issue. Why you might not get full value for him.

Perhaps he goes to a team like CGY? who have a number of early picks in this years draft and some decent youth on the horizon. Or maybe a ARI or FLA. The panthers have lots of prospects to dangle and can afford the cap hit.

6 year age difference. $3 million cap hit difference. Not to mention Nash's contract goes until he is 35.

The Sabres just finished their tear down. Now they are rebuilding. Why move assets to acquire a player that won't be here to help the team when they are ready? Ennis in 3 years will be more valuable to the Sabres than Nash would be in 3 years.
- Stripes77

Bringing in a player such as Nash helps to ensure the sabres they are truly fighting for a playoff spot in 2 years. They drafted the players they need to win a cup, keep them, let them go, and surround them with other elite pieces. Nash isn't the best all around player, but he is an elite goal scorer. They need one of those on the roster.

Having someone who would be 32 when the sabres start getting serious about making the playoffs is not a bad thing. And having someone locked up until their 35 isn't a bad thing, if it was 39, or 40, that would be another story.


Two questions with ennis, is a small price to pay to land that established of a player.

Nash had a huge year. His playoff and contract (cap hit) are the issue. Why you might not get full value for him.

Perhaps he goes to a team like CGY? who have a number of early picks in this years draft and some decent youth on the horizon. Or maybe a ARI or FLA. The panthers have lots of prospects to dangle and can afford the cap hit.
- storm88

I'm not a Rangers fan.

Bringing in a player such as Nash helps to ensure the sabres they are truly fighting for a playoff spot in 2 years. They drafted the players they need to win a cup, keep them, let them go, and surround them with other elite pieces. Nash isn't the best all around player, but he is an elite goal scorer. They need one of those on the roster.

Having someone who would be 32 when the sabres start getting serious about making the playoffs is not a bad thing. And having someone locked up until their 35 isn't a bad thing, if it was 39, or 40, that would be another story.


Two questions with ennis, is a small price to pay to land that established of a player.
- ImNoTroll

It's a huge price to pay for someone who won't be nearly as useful when we become cup contenders.

Bringing in a player such as Nash helps to ensure the sabres they are truly fighting for a playoff spot in 2 years. They drafted the players they need to win a cup, keep them, let them go, and surround them with other elite pieces. Nash isn't the best all around player, but he is an elite goal scorer. They need one of those on the roster.

Having someone who would be 32 when the sabres start getting serious about making the playoffs is not a bad thing. And having someone locked up until their 35 isn't a bad thing, if it was 39, or 40, that would be another story.


Two questions with ennis, is a small price to pay to land that established of a player.
- ImNoTroll

It is when that person counts for $8 million against your cap and when production falls off right around the age he is now. Remember this season he produced but last year he didn't even get 40 points.

On top of that he plays LW. They need RWers not LWers.

http://www.sbnation.com/l...-captain-from-selling-his

Oh tampa...

It is when that person counts for $8 million against your cap and when production falls off right around the age he is now. Remember this season he produced but last year he didn't even get 40 points.

On top of that he plays LW. They need RWers not LWers.
- Stripes77

He's just as comfortable at RW. He's said it himself

He's just as comfortable at RW. He's said it himself
- sbroads24

Exactly. And we have no RWs.

It's a huge price to pay for someone who won't be nearly as useful when we become cup contenders.
- Herzeleid

By the time we are fighting for the cup, players of his style aew still productive at that age.

Exactly. And we have no RWs.
- ImNoTroll

Ennis is a top 6 RW.

I would take Nash in a heartbeat, and generally think we would be contending by his 3rd year here, which at that point he'd still be a 30 goal scorer who could be our version of Hossa when we compete for a cup.

By the time we are fighting for the cup, players of his style aew still productive at that age.
- ImNoTroll

And players like Ennis in their prime are more productive and cheaper, for longer, and you keep a 1st and basically another 1st.

He's just as comfortable at RW. He's said it himself
- sbroads24

E. Kane-Eichel-Nash
ROR-Reinhart-Ennis
Foligno-Girgens-Gionta
Don't Know-Don't Care-Does it Matter


that's a damn fine group up front

Sprinkle in a decent D man to round out the top 4 with Risto, Bogo, and Pysyk

The sabres are trying to move out of rebuilding, picks at this point can be moved. Their main core is so young. Ennis is going on 26 this year and has only had career highs in the 40s.
I know you pay attention to the draft. I would stay statistical one of those two players at those picks would develop into something. It really isn't much, and I think it gets the Rangers listening.
- ImNoTroll

It's clear you're highly undervaluing Ennis though

He's just as comfortable at RW. He's said it himself
- sbroads24

He didn't play RW this year.

He did play some RW last year...He might say he is comfortable but his stats say otherwise

E. Kane-Eichel-Nash
ROR-Reinhart-Ennis
Foligno-Girgens-Gionta
Don't Know-Don't Care-Does it Matter


that's a damn fine group up front

Sprinkle in a decent D man to round out the top 4 with Risto, Bogo, and Pysyk
- homiedclown

Please make it happen!!!

It's even more redicioulous that he wanted Joe Thornton or Patrick Marleau over him. Older, almost as expensive, and have accomplished nothing in the playoffs during a longer period of time.
- ImNoTroll

Why because you don't agree with me

Nobody wants to pay ROR 7 mill a year well guess what, that will be the going rate for a player like him so people should come to terms with it. No matter if the Sabres pay it or not, it will happen.
- SABRES 89

I agree. That will be the going rate for a guy like him. There's no need to for the Buffalo Sabres to do something that stupid. Let some other team do that.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/6/8740809/the-lightning-are-trying-to-keep-an-army-captain-from-selling-his

Oh tampa...
- Stripes77

Sounds like they want all the tickets to be sold through the Ticketmaster Exchange instead of Stubhub or some other "unauthorized" dealer.

I agree. That will be the going rate for a guy like him. There's no need to for the Buffalo Sabres to do something that stupid. Let some other team do that.
- buffalofan19

$6m per at 6 years and I will be okay with it

$7m scares me

Sounds like they want all the tickets to be sold through the Ticketmaster Exchange instead of Stubhub or some other "unauthorized" dealer.
- buffalofan19

Still that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

If I paid for my ticket I should be able to sell that ticket the way I want to unless its already written in their season ticket contract (which its not because he was doing it during the regular season)

I dont get the nash hate. Sometimes great teams can shut him down but hes a nightmare to match up against.

$6m per at 6 years and I will be okay with it

$7m scares me
- Stripes77

Like I said, if Patrice Bergeron never hit $7 million a year, Ryan O'Reilly definitely doesn't, inflation or no inflation.

A player like O'Reilly is a luxury, not a necessity. Hopefully, the Avalanche extend him and end the conversation altogether.

The thing with Rick Nash is that he's only under contract for 3 more years. With this kind of cap room, the only issue is how much you have to give up. Given that we are dealing with Glen Sather here, I'm not so sure it's as much as people think.

Still that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

If I paid for my ticket I should be able to sell that ticket the way I want to unless its already written in their season ticket contract (which its not because he was doing it during the regular season)
- Stripes77

Depends on what the fine print says when you signed for your season tickets. More and more pro sports teams are making it harder to use other secondary markets. The Sabres don't have this issue because they have a deal with Stubhub to be their resale partner since Tickets.com doesn't have one. And that's where most people go. The Lightning use Ticketmaster (I know because I still get emails from them for buying tickets through them for a game back in 2011), who has their own resale value. The key in this article is that they don't like the secondary markets he's using. If Ticketmaster crossed its i's and dotted its t's, they may have a leg to stand on. I don't know how the policies are updated.

As far as doing it in the regular season, they may have looked the other way. The tickets weren't that expensive, so losing out on the transaction fee wasn't too big of a deal. When you're talking about losing out on a fee of up to 10 or 15 percent on a $500 plus ticket, it becomes an issue worth pursuing.

Depends on what the fine print says when you signed for your season tickets. More and more pro sports teams are making it harder to use other secondary markets. The Sabres don't have this issue because they have a deal with Stubhub to be their resale partner since Tickets.com doesn't have one. And that's where most people go. The Lightning use Ticketmaster (I know because I still get emails from them for buying tickets through them for a game back in 2011), who has their own resale value. The key in this article is that they don't like the secondary markets he's using. If Ticketmaster crossed its i's and dotted its t's, they may have a leg to stand on. I don't know how the policies are updated.

As far as doing it in the regular season, they may have looked the other way. The tickets weren't that expensive, so losing out on the transaction fee wasn't too big of a deal. When you're talking about losing out on a fee of up to 10 or 15 percent on a $500 plus ticket, it becomes an issue worth pursuing.
- buffalofan19

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ket-policy-191253767.html

Here’s the thing: There is absolutely nothing in Dhillon’s agreement as a season-ticket holder that prevents him from selling his tickets on the secondary market, as he did during the regular season. Lightning CEO Tod Leiweke told the Times that it just prefers its fans to try “once, twice, three times to sell to Lightning fans” before putting the tickets on the market.

After the Times got wind of the story, the team quickly relented and Dhillon was allowed to print, transfer or sell his tickets online again.

Yup Tampa...still doing it wrong