You grossly under-rate how good of a player Kyle Turris is.

And yes, I think Dylan Strome tops out as a decent 2nd line center. I think if you go back and re-do this draft 10 years from now, most people will agree Strome was taken 5-7 spots too early at a minimum.
- mochoson

... and Meier 10 spots too late.

It's my drum. I'm beating it.

Well if you put it in the back of the net it's a goal and if you put it in front of the net it's not.

I would probably put this one aside and search out new windmills. They've been saying it forever. Not sure your mini uprising here is going to get much of a reaction.

Love the anger though. Keep that going.
- mayorofangrytown

meh. if i put the puck into the front of the net, it's in the net. if i put the puck on net, it's a different story. it's a waste of words.

Is there any chance whatsoever that Eichel doesn't sign in Buffalo? Just thinking if maybe all that tanking comes back to bite them in the ass.

Turris is a good player. His time in Arizona taints his current perception. Other tahn Kane he's right there with the rest of the forwards drafted that year.
- mayorofangrytown

mcdonagh was he draftedat the right spot?

I shouldn't say "bad" but maybe unspectacular. Good, yes. But remember, that entire draft class minus Kane was one of the weakest first rounds in recent memory. If this draft class is as deep as 2003, I'd prefer the Parise clone over the Turris one.
- jmatchett383

Granted.

meh. if i put the puck into the front of the net, it's in the net. if i put the puck on net, it's a different story. it's a waste of words.
- wilsonecho91

i want them to say/use breadbasket again

i want them to say/use breadbasket again
- JoeRussomanno

don't get hammarby started on waffleboard...

i guess what it boils down to is how you asses and manage risk. i can see how youre thinking in that the flyers have good d prospect pool already and wouldn't be hurt taking a forward this year. i just feel they could acquire the forward prospects later round or through free agency. in the end its just about preference/perception really. both courses have their pitfalls.
- JoeRussomanno

Prospect pool on D has zero to do with it. The lack of skill in the system does. They need help at every position, not just D. I'm taking the best player on the board with each first rounder, without regard to position.

If that means I have too many good defensemen or too many good forwards, that's a happy problem to have.

don't get hammarby started on waffleboard...
- wilsonecho91

since I'm on a strict diet these days I won't

B. Schenn, #7 and #30 for #3? Yes, no?

... and Meier 10 spots too late.

It's my drum. I'm beating it.
- mayorofangrytown

Hey man, I don't think I disagree with you, in all honesty. I think he's going to be really, really good.

mcdonagh was he draftedat the right spot?
- JoeRussomanno

In retrospect very few players are drafted in the right position. That's why they employ so many people to get it as right as possible yet still failed regularly.

I shouldn't say "bad" but maybe unspectacular. Good, yes. But remember, that entire draft class minus Kane was one of the weakest first rounds in recent memory. If this draft class is as deep as 2003, I'd prefer the Parise clone over the Turris one.
- jmatchett383

It was a weak 1st round, but the players that did come out of it, are all really good players.

kane, JVR, Turris, Voracek, couture, mcdonagh, shattenkirk, & pacioretty are all great players.

Prospect pool on D has zero to do with it. The lack of skill in the system does. They need help at every position, not just D. I'm taking the best player on the board with each first rounder, without regard to position.

If that means I have too many good defensemen or too many good forwards, that's a happy problem to have.
- Jsaquella

im not sure if I don't trust their ability to project skill or if they just can't help themselves in drafting NRG/Grit guys.

since I'm on a strict diet these days I won't
- JoeRussomanno

How's that going. I want PIZZA so bad I capitalize it.

Why? That's what Kessel will cost. I'd rather pay Kessel 8 million than pay Atkinson and Hartnell.

They have wayyyyy to much money locked up long term in to many forwards not named Johansen. They won't kiss Rychel or the 1st with guys like Dano, Wenneberg, Bjorkstrand, Milano coming in. I'd much rather pay Kessel long term than a declining Hartnell.

That being said, Columbus really wants a dman. I was just trying to think of a proposal comparable to the Nash trade, and ironically came back to Columbus.
- mochoson

Because the Jackets need defense help, not Phil Kessel. I think they're fine up front as is. Especially with the kids you mention. The defense is shallow there. If they're going to give up those assets, pry Seabrook out of Chicago, not Kessel out of Toronto

im not sure if I don't trust their ability to project skill or if they just can't help themselves in drafting NRG/Grit guys.
- JoeRussomanno

They drafted nothing but skill last year.

B. Schenn, #7 and #30 for #3? Yes, no?
- wilsonecho91

No.

In retrospect very few players are drafted in the right position. That's why they employ so many people to get it as right as possible yet still failed regularly.
- mayorofangrytown

for a guy who gave an eloquent lecture on reading comprehension and question dodging the other day, I expected a more direct answer

It was a weak 1st round, but the players that did come out of it, are all really good players.

kane, JVR, Turris, Voracek, couture, mcdonagh, shattenkirk, & pacioretty are all great players.
- benjichronic

I'll tell you Cherepanov really still bums me out.

No.
- Jsaquella

agreed.

They drafted nothing but skill last year.
- Jsaquella

Peterson was a wasted pick. Those guys you can get through waivers. Should have swung for the fences.

Bill,

Good read. The one thing that I think would have been nice to have in their would have been the fit specifically with the Flyers. Personally, I think in the top 10 in a very deep draft, you draft for organizational planning. Below the first round and certainly in the later rounds, you draft for organizational depth. Sometime if you talk to Chris P. again I'd be curious on his feelings on this. For this pick, you have to assume the player will make the team in 2 years. Most of the players talked about in the top 10 or so could and should easily reach in this time.

My point is, Lawson Crouse if he never produces would be a good player for most teams, with defense and by doing all of the little things he does well. That's not really what the Flyers need per se. If he does reach his upside, he adds 10-15 maybe even 20 goals above Raffl. But take Raffl away from G and Jake and he's not potting 20 goals, so it's not a net add.

The Flyers need to balance out the lines. If they really believe Couts is that guy and Laughton is 3C, then proceed with that plan and see if Crouse is the missing link on the 2nd line. If they have question marks about either of those two guys in an offensive role, or B Schenn, then they need to go in a different direction. Because Crouse isn't likely to make the guys around him better; he'll be the beneficiary of those kind of guys.

My point, they need to figure out who fits in the long term plans, and then proceed accordingly.

im not sure if I don't trust their ability to project skill or if they just can't help themselves in drafting NRG/Grit guys.
- JoeRussomanno

Loved what they did in the draft last year.

If that's how they go about their business this year, I'm feeling good about it.

B. Schenn, #7 and #30 for #3? Yes, no?
- wilsonecho91

Hell no!

Are you on something today?