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DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 8 @ 10:28 PM ET
You think they would want some of Myers' celery?
- TheSabresTaco


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SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:28 PM ET
I have a feeling TM will swing a trade for Craig Anderson, out of Ottawa.

His recent comments clearly opened the door to that idea of a veteran overseeing the grooming a young keeper.


I just hope that such a deal doesn't require #21 overall. That be the case, I'd just assume sign Nuiverth as a UFA, & keeping the pick.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:29 PM ET
He might be a cap casualty, especially if they win the Cup this year.
- buffalofan19

Not sure teams want the term on his deal at his age
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:30 PM ET
I have a feeling TM will swing a trade for Craig Anderson, out of Ottawa.

His recent comments clearly opened the door to that idea of a veteran overseeing the grooming a young keeper.


I just hope that such a deal doesn't require #21 overall. That be the case, I'd just assume sign Nuiverth as a UFA, & keeping the pick.

- SuperCat



They'd have to get that guy first, the combined assets to get both might be a bit much.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:31 PM ET
Not sure teams want the term on his deal at his age
- sbroads24


I'd love it if Buffalo took it on. They have the room to do it. His contract will be up in a while, but they won't have to pay him much, and Chicago gets stiffed with the retirement penalty if he does hang them up.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:32 PM ET
He went 20+ straight playoff games without a goal
- sbroads24


1) he's never really been that much of a goal scorer. His scoring is secondary to what he provides. Of course, that's a crazy high # and they do want at least some secondary scoring from him, but it also doesn't mean he isn't doing all the other things he's counted on for

2) how many did Crosby go? He's actually counted on to score goals. It's a more appropriate criticism IMO
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
I have a feeling TM will swing a trade for Craig Anderson, out of Ottawa.

His recent comments clearly opened the door to that idea of a veteran overseeing the grooming a young keeper.


I just hope that such a deal doesn't require #21 overall. That be the case, I'd just assume sign Nuiverth as a UFA, & keeping the pick.



...tho an Anderson/Nuiverth 60/40 split could be interesting.

- SuperCat


I don't think that's necessarily true. I think what he said was that he was really open to any option, whether that be it a young goalie to grow with the team or a veteran stop gap.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
1) he's never really been that much of a goal scorer. His scoring is secondary to what he provides. Of course, that's a crazy high # and they do want at least some secondary scoring from him, but it also doesn't mean he isn't doing all the other things he's counted on for

2) how many did Crosby go? He's actually counted on to score goals. It's a more appropriate criticism IMO

- jdfitz77



If you're going to pay a guy $5.2 million a year, he had better score far more than one goal every 20 playoff games. Otherwise, it's money poorly spent you matter how you slice it.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:35 PM ET
I'd love it if Buffalo took it on. They have the room to do it. His contract will be up in a while, but they won't have to pay him much, and Chicago gets stiffed with the retirement penalty if he does hang them up.
- buffalofan19



don't we get hit with it as well or is it just the team trading him away. Wouldn't shock me if he only played 2 more years, final 4 years pay a salary of 1 mil, cap circumventing mother(frank)ers
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:35 PM ET
They'd have to get that guy first, the combined assets to get both might be a bit much.
- Sabresfan-365





An Anderson/Nuiverth 60/40 split could be interesting.

You don't burn Anderson out, and still promote Nuiverth's development.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:36 PM ET
1) he's never really been that much of a goal scorer. His scoring is secondary to what he provides. Of course, that's a crazy high # and they do want at least some secondary scoring from him, but it also doesn't mean he isn't doing all the other things he's counted on for

2) how many did Crosby go? He's actually counted on to score goals. It's a more appropriate criticism IMO

- jdfitz77

Crosby has 13 points in his last 18 playoff games, and it's by far the worst stretch of his career.

Callahan has 6 points in 26 playoff games over the past two years.

They are universes apart. We might as well compare Mike Weber to Duncan Keith
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:36 PM ET
An Anderson/Nuiverth 60/40 split could be interesting.


You don't burn Anderson out, and still accelerate Nuiverth's development.

- SuperCat



Neuvirth is 27, at this point what you see is what you get he wouldn't need developing or mentoring from a vet goalie.
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:40 PM ET
Neuvirth is 27, at this point what you see is what you get he wouldn't need developing or mentoring from a vet goalie.
- Sabresfan-365



What you see, maybe be what u get...

BUT NOBODY'S BARLEY SEEN HIM PLAY?!! He hasn't had the chance!


For what it's worth, Nuiverth looked good for the Sabres down the stretch last season.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 8 @ 10:42 PM ET
What you see, maybe be what u get...

BUT NOBODY'S BARLEY SEEN HIM PLAY?!! He hasn't had the chance!


But (for what it's worth) he looked good for the Sabres down the stretch.

- SuperCat


He's played in 168 games, he's had his chance with a few teams. He'd be a decent short term option if they can't find a long term solution this summer but he's probably not your number 1 on a great team.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 8 @ 10:43 PM ET
He's played in 168 games, he's had his chance with a few teams. He'd be a decent short term option if they can't find a long term solution this summer but he's probably not your number 1 on a great team.
- Sabresfan-365



He's the one guy I wouldn't mind seeing come back.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 8 @ 10:49 PM ET
He's the one guy I wouldn't mind seeing come back.
- buffalofan19


I wouldn't mind it either, just don't think he should be the #1 going forward. I'm curious to see what they do with Johnson.
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.06.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:52 PM ET
I do think that Hodgson & Grigorenko will both be decent NHLers...
But they're not really "Murray type" guys
And if Grigorenko can't switch to wing, then he's just stuck behind our obvious top3 centers
And while I don't doubt Hodgson can be a consistent 20 goal guy in this league, I do question whether he'll ever be good enough defensively.

I just don't see either fitting in here long term

- jdfitz77


Has Reinhart done anything beyond what Grigo has done to become an "obvious" top center for this team?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 8 @ 11:35 PM ET
Has Reinhart done anything beyond what Grigo has done to become an "obvious" top center for this team?
- JCSabs06



He was drafted #2 overall for a reason.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 9 @ 1:02 AM ET
Gregernko, Psysyk and a fist for Ryan O'Riley
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 9 @ 1:13 AM ET
tampa stinks
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 9 @ 1:13 AM ET
Has Reinhart done anything beyond what Grigo has done to become an "obvious" top center for this team?
- JCSabs06



Seriously?
Reinhart may not be proven at the nhl level yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't obviously the plan to be our #2 center
It's possible he doesn't work out, of course
But he's shown nothing yet to make any of us (or Murray) think that way

Would u say the same about Eichel?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 9 @ 1:22 AM ET
they won't move him, but shaw is the guy I want from the hawks

foligno,girgens, shaw would be hell for a third line

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 9 @ 1:23 AM ET
Gregernko, Psysyk and a fist for Ryan O'Riley
- CaptainRivet

hawks in 5
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 9 @ 1:23 AM ET
Reinhart stinks
- homiedclown

seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 9 @ 1:24 AM ET
Has Reinhart done anything beyond what Grigo has done to become an "obvious" top center for this team?
- JCSabs06


You mean aside from being 3 years behind him in draft/development?
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