Reinhart centered Max Domi and Anthony Duclair during the World Jr’s, trade him to Coyotes for their 3rd overall selection! Draft Hanifin? (or see what other teams are willing to deal for the selection?

Just thoughts, I like Reinhart
- Irish 14

I like Hanifin...
But why trade Reinhart?
I love him as our 2C and Girgensons as our 3C
Gives us great depth down the middle, which is important
And unless it was a great deal, I'd also hang onto Larsson BC he can slot into a top9 center spot if/when there's injuries

I like Zadorov & McCabe, so I guess I don't feel there's a huge need at LH defense
Plus, a guy like Kylington could be available at 21, and there's guys available in next years draft as well (I expect us to pick in the top10)

I guess it depends if there's someone at that spot Murray really likes?
I'm very confident that Hodgson will rebound this season, esp if he end up being the other top6 RW
And Grigorenko hasn't lived up to expectations, but by all accounts hes been getting better every year, even if it's baby steps

I'd prob hang onto both for this season, BC I don't think their trade value can get worse
Plus, there's so many teams in Cap trouble that will be forced to trade guys at below market value, and that will also drive down what we could get for our guys

If the right deal is there, cool... Trade them
But I'm not in a hurry to give them away for pennies on the dollar either
- jdfitz77

Agreed on keeping them. If they both start putting up numbers like expected ... why trade them? Will we get another player in return thats better ?

what about Arizona's high second (#32) in a deep 2015 draft?
- Michael Pachla

I like Samsanov there. Goalies slip, especially in a talent rich year. Fucale slipped. Demko slipped. Samsanov will slip.

Reinhart centered Max Domi and Anthony Duclair during the World Jr’s, trade him to Coyotes for their 3rd overall selection! Draft Hanifin? (or see what other teams are willing to deal for the selection?

Just thoughts, I like Reinhart
- Irish 14

Trade Reinhart plus 2nd to Yotes get 3rd pick contingent on

Trade pick 3(Hanifen), Girgensons, Ristolainen, and Brooklyn's 1st rd pick no 21...throw in Hodgson if they'll take him and acquire 1st overall pick
Sabres get Mcdavid and Eichel. Rebuild done

Sabres so deep at center could even throw Grigerenko into the pot
and still have McDavid Eichel and Larsson as top 3 C
Still Have Zadurov, Bognosian, Pysyk, McCabe in D pipeline

Will be hard to lose Girgensons and especially Ristolainen but imagine McEichel on the Sabres

Trade Reinhart plus 2nd to Yotes get 3rd pick contingent on

Trade pick 3(Hanifen), Girgensons, Ristolainen, and Brooklyn's 1st rd pick no 21...throw in Hodgson if they'll take him and acquire 1st overall pick
Sabres get Mcdavid and Eichel. Rebuild done

Sabres so deep at center could even throw Grigerenko into the pot
and still have McDavid Eichel and Larsson as top 3 C
Still Have Zadurov, Bognosian, Pysyk, McCabe in D pipeline

Will be hard to lose Girgensons and especially Ristolainen but imagine McEichel on the Sabres
- doctordizzle

First of all, I don't see Edmonton doing this.

Second of all, I don't like the idea of doing it at all.

Didn't you suggest this before? Not trying to be a richard cranium but I remember this post from someone...
- jochfr

Is this an automatic censor?

First of all, I don't see Edmonton doing this.

Second of all, I don't like the idea of doing it at all.
- HonkFortheGoose

I agree w the Edm part. Just a delusion.

But by rejecting both sides..maybe it's actually a fair deal

I would do that in a heartbeat for Buffalo

Reinhart centered Max Domi and Anthony Duclair during the World Jr’s, trade him to Coyotes for their 3rd overall selection! Draft Hanifin? (or see what other teams are willing to deal for the selection?

Just thoughts, I like Reinhart
- Irish 14

I don't see a single reason to do this trade. Reinhart will have much more value to this team than Hanifin.

Trade Reinhart plus 2nd to Yotes get 3rd pick contingent on

Trade pick 3(Hanifen), Girgensons, Ristolainen, and Brooklyn's 1st rd pick no 21...throw in Hodgson if they'll take him and acquire 1st overall pick
Sabres get Mcdavid and Eichel. Rebuild done

Sabres so deep at center could even throw Grigerenko into the pot
and still have McDavid Eichel and Larsson as top 3 C
Still Have Zadurov, Bognosian, Pysyk, McCabe in D pipeline

Will be hard to lose Girgensons and especially Ristolainen but imagine McEichel on the Sabres
- doctordizzle

I agree w the Edm part. Just a delusion.

But by rejecting both sides..maybe it's actually a fair deal

I would do that in a heartbeat for Buffalo
- doctordizzle

No. This obliterates Buffalo. You know what we'd look like? Imagine putting Crosby and Malkin on last year's Sabres team. Replace Ennis and Girgensons with AHL scrubs. That's what our team would look like. (frank)ing gross.

No. This obliterates Buffalo. You know what we'd look like? Imagine putting Crosby and Malkin on last year's Sabres team. Replace Ennis and Girgensons with AHL scrubs. That's what our team would look like. (frank)ing gross.
- TheSabresTaco

If McEichel weren't hanging in the balance, I'd trade places with that hypothetical team 7 days a week and twice on Tuesday.

If McEichel weren't hanging in the balance, I'd trade places with that hypothetical team 7 days a week and twice on Tuesday.
- buffalofan19

That team would lead us right to 9th place. I'll pass on being the next decade's leafs, thanks.

No. This obliterates Buffalo. You know what we'd look like? Imagine putting Crosby and Malkin on last year's Sabres team. Replace Ennis and Girgensons with AHL scrubs. That's what our team would look like. (frank)ing gross.
- TheSabresTaco

No way taco Sabres would be in better position...(btw just had a taco and actually mixed beef w chicken)

Sabres would still have Kane, Ennis, Moulson, Larsson, Grigerenko and of course Mat Ellis

Anyhow Pens don't have a force like Kane. Sabres would still be young and easily add to the mix and with draw of playing with McDavid and Eichel

And last I checked Crosby plus Malkin plus Blysma was a cup and several 100 point seasons

No way taco Sabres would be in better position...(btw just had a taco and actually mixed beef w chicken)

Sabres would still have Kane, Ennis, Moulson, Larsson, Grigerenko and of course Mat Ellis

Anyhow Pens don't have a force like Kane. Sabres would still be young and easily add to the mix and with draw of playing with McDavid and Eichel

And last I checked Crosby plus Malkin plus Blysma was a cup and several 100 point seasons
- doctordizzle

Matt Ellis is actually a UFA right now, so you don't know that. I also might cause myself some sort of physical harm if I ever see him on the Sabres roster ever again.

No way taco Sabres would be in better position...(btw just had a taco and actually mixed beef w chicken)

Sabres would still have Kane, Ennis, Moulson, Larsson, Grigerenko and of course Mat Ellis

Anyhow Pens don't have a force like Kane. Sabres would still be young and easily add to the mix and with draw of playing with McDavid and Eichel

And last I checked Crosby plus Malkin plus Blysma was a cup and several 100 point seasons
- doctordizzle

Your depth perception isn't very strong if you think that the three of them were the sole reason they won a cup in 2009. They had a very balanced team with a lot of secondary talent. Their bottom 6 is absolute poop right now, and those two couldn't get their team over 100 points or past the first round this year or first 2 round past 5 years. People over rate that team every year and by the end of the year, people look like chumps. They're an above average if not plain average team with two franchise talents. I'll pass on that offer, every time.

Matt Ellis is actually a UFA right now, so you don't know that. I also might cause myself some sort of physical harm if I ever see him on the Sabres roster ever again.
- HonkFortheGoose

MFE will heal your wounds.

Projected lineup...

Kane - Eichel - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart - ?
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauriers - Larsson - (Kaleta)?

If they have a plan to go after Ryan O'Reilly in a trade, or someone like Toffoli/Saad with an RFA offer sheet, then by all means trade Hodgson and Grigorenko.

But, if they cannot find another top-6 forward, that is under 25 like Murray wants, then they need to hope Hodgson or Grigorenko can step up and take that top-6 RW spot.

I'd like to see them bring in Marcus Sorenson for that 4th line RW spot...and bring Shane Prince home to keep developing in Rochester for a year or two.

No clue why they want to re-sign Kaleta though, I don't want him there. He's made of glass, and has only played 82 games combined in 3 years. It's time to move on, or send him to Rochester to protect and mentor the kids. But, I rather see them get someone else, or let someone like Schaller try and take that spot.

MFE will heal your wounds.
- TheSabresTaco

If they trade Girgs. Everyone in a 20 mile radius is in fear for their life.

Matt Ellis is actually a UFA right now, so you don't know that. I also might cause myself some sort of physical harm if I ever see him on the Sabres roster ever again.
- HonkFortheGoose

Was joking about Ellis

Matt Ellis is actually a UFA right now, so you don't know that. I also might cause myself some sort of physical harm if I ever see him on the Sabres roster ever again.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yes. It's either Rochester or he's moving on elsewhere.

No way will Murray want him taking minutes, of ANY kind, from someone who actually has an NHL future and belongs on the Sabres. That's not Matt Ellis, at all.

Projected lineup...

Kane - Eichel - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart - ?
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauriers - Larsson - (Kaleta)?

If they have a plan to go after Ryan O'Reilly in a trade, or someone like Toffoli/Saad with an RFA offer sheet, then by all means trade Hodgson and Grigorenko.

But, if they cannot find another top-6 forward, that is under 25 like Murray wants, then they need to hope Hodgson or Grigorenko can step up and take that top-6 RW spot.

I'd like to see them bring in Marcus Sorenson for that 4th line RW spot...and bring Shane Prince home to keep developing in Rochester for a year or two.

No clue why they want to re-sign Kaleta though, I don't want him there. He's made of glass, and has only played 82 games combined in 3 years. It's time to move on, or send him to Rochester to protect and mentor the kids. But, I rather see them get someone else, or let someone like Schaller try and take that spot.
- DJshnooks

Garth, I would say no way to O'Reilly

But heck yes to Toffoli although Kings will find a way to match

Garth, I would say no way to O'Reilly

But heck yes to Toffoli although Kings will find a way to match
- doctordizzle

I would love O'Reilly, "big, heavy, fast." Dude is 24 years old and a beast.

They could easily find a way to steal Toffoli, Kings have some cap issues...a 6 year deal worth $6M/year might be hard to squeeze in, especially if they want to keep Sekera, and/or Williams. (Idk if he's worth that, yet, though.)

But, I have zero doubts that Murray will attempt and probably get an RFA somewhere.

I'm in Chicago right now (my girlfriend is here on business). Definitely going to go to bar to watch the game tonight it should be a blast! I'm sitting up at the Signature Lounge, which is the highest bar in the city and can see the United Center from here.

Trade Reinhart plus 2nd to Yotes get 3rd pick contingent on

Trade pick 3(Hanifen), Girgensons, Ristolainen, and Brooklyn's 1st rd pick no 21...throw in Hodgson if they'll take him and acquire 1st overall pick
Sabres get Mcdavid and Eichel. Rebuild done

Sabres so deep at center could even throw Grigerenko into the pot
and still have McDavid Eichel and Larsson as top 3 C
Still Have Zadurov, Bognosian, Pysyk, McCabe in D pipeline

Will be hard to lose Girgensons and especially Ristolainen but imagine McEichel on the Sabres
- doctordizzle

Sabres Trade:
Reinhart - Great 2C
#31
Girgensons - Great 3C, captain
Ristolainen - First pairing D
#21

Oilers Trade:
McDavid

I will ignore the obvious answer of the Oilers have zero need to ever do this trade, but I'll just look at the value of it.

The value is decent. But in taking McDavid and Eichel, you have the next Crosby-Malkin pair. You lose a top defenseman, swap out a 2c, you lose a much more talented 3C and two quality prospects. Who says Reinhart can't produce 70 points in a season in his prime? How much are we really losing but not doing some ridiculous hypothetical offer. This is a path that returns mediocrity to Buffalo for several more years.

In case you haven't noticed, our "pipeline" of defenseman is all but trickling at this point. Losing a top pairing D, which are hard enough to find as it is, and replacing him with McCabe is not healthy. That leaves Ruhwedel, Florentino and Martin as the only guys who could even potentially play for the Sabres in the future. Losing those picks which may in fact be used to bring in a quality prospect between 18-24 would also hurt our overall structure.

And finally, sure, you've got great production from McEichel. Let's make sure we rush to 9th place, continue to draft in the 10-13 spot and limp along the next 5-10 years repairing the damage that was completely unnecessary to cause in the first place.

That, sir, is why I don't get (frank)ing ridiculous.

Your depth perception isn't very strong if you think that the three of them were the sole reason they won a cup in 2009. They had a very balanced team with a lot of secondary talent. Their bottom 6 is absolute poop right now, and those two couldn't get their team over 100 points or past the first round this year or first 2 round past 5 years. People over rate that team every year and by the end of the year, people look like chumps. They're an above average if not plain average team with two franchise talents. I'll pass on that offer, every time.
- TheSabresTaco

And the Sabres would suddenly stop adding tallons?

You got McDavid Eichel Kane Ennis Zadurov Pysk Bognosian
What a fn core

Obviously you would continue to add pieces

Not comparable to Toronto at all... Quick who's their top 2 centers again?

Obviously not gonna happen but would be sick
That said Sabres future looks sick as it is