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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
Bob McKenzie just reported he is being shopped around. Vrbata?
- vancouverdawg

Brandon Sutter is the equivalent of Bonino...we don't really need another one.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
Maybe Vrbata for sutter and pits adds a late second. Thatd seem fair all around
- phyllee

I would. Vrbata is a rental and only cost us money
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:51 AM ET
Maybe Vrbata for sutter and pits adds a late second. That'd seem fair all around
- phyllee

Id take that. Their second is better then ours.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 9:52 AM ET
Brandon Sutter is the equivalent of Bonino...we don't really need another one.
- LeftCoaster

21 goals playing third line minutes
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:53 AM ET
Brandon Sutter is the equivalent of Bonino...we don't really need another one.
- LeftCoaster


I'd put Bonino ahead of Sutter. Slightly but still ahead. Much nicer cap hit also.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 9:55 AM ET
21 goals playing third line minutes
- vancouverdawg

Kinda similar to what Boner scored with Anaheim. I see them in the same light & don't see how he's gonna help the team in three years when he'll be 30 years old.

I'd rather a first round pick for Vrbata. At this point I'm looking ahead, long'ish term not short term.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'd put Bonino ahead of Sutter. Slightly but still ahead. Much nicer cap hit also.
- manvanfan

Bonino looked good at the worlds and also when he was a Duck. Play him with talented wingers and not Higgins and Matthias and I am sure his numbers would improve
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:58 AM ET
21 goals playing third line minutes
- vancouverdawg

He Averaged more TOI then Bonino did.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:58 AM ET
Bonino looked good at the worlds and also when he was a Duck. Play him with talented wingers and not Higgins and Matthias and I am sure his numbers would improve
- vancouverdawg

My thoughts and hopes exactly. Bring on the kids!
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 9:59 AM ET
Kinda similar to what Boner scored with Anaheim. I see them in the same light & don't see how he's gonna help the team in three years when he'll be 30 years old.

I'd rather a first round pick for Vrbata. At this point I'm looking ahead, long'ish term not short term.

- LeftCoaster

Canucks need better wingers
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:03 AM ET
Canucks need better wingers
- vancouverdawg

He's a center? (Sutter)
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:09 AM ET
He's a center?
- LeftCoaster

I wonder if JB feels like Bo, Jared, and Cole can become the next three top centers for Van. D and Wingers are more of a concern for me right now.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 10 @ 10:12 AM ET
I wonder if JB feels like Bo, Jared, and Cole can become the next three top centers for Van. D and Wingers are more of a concern for me right now.
- manvanfan


By the time Jared makes the jump to the nhl, Vey should be pretty solid to hold the fourth line center
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:17 AM ET
He's a center? (Sutter)
- LeftCoaster

I know that. I was referring to Canucks last year had Dorsett Matthias Higgins Burrows Hansen playing second line. That is pretty sad
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
I wonder if JB feels like Bo, Jared, and Cole can become the next three top centers for Van. D and Wingers are more of a concern for me right now.
- manvanfan

Not sure? Keep picking until someone steps up to the plate and proves to be the guy you were hoping.

Prospect pool is, just ok, needs more guys on D with top four potential.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
I know that. I was referring to Canucks last year had Dorsett Matthias Higgins Burrows Hansen playing second line. That is pretty sad
- vancouverdawg

Yes
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
By the time Jared makes the jump to the nhl, Vey should be pretty solid to hold the fourth line center
- phyllee

I'm not sure Vey has a skill set for a 4th line centre role. Or a Center at all if he can't improve in the face-off dot. A third line LW maybe?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
Not sure? Keep picking until someone steps up to the plate and proves to be the guy you were hoping.

Prospect pool is, just ok, needs more guys on D with top four potential.

- LeftCoaster

ok but also improving! The D is getting old and as of right now, they don't have anyone who is stepping up.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
Yes
- LeftCoaster


I think if you put decent players with Bonino or Sutter you would get decent numbers from both.

Canucks are a soft , country club team. Until this team cleans house this is what we get
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'm not sure Vey has a skill set for a 4th line centre role. Or a Center at all if he can't improve in the face-off dot. A third line LW maybe?
- manvanfan

I would take Kenins or Sven over him as third line winger even Gaunce
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
Coyotes back in the news today, for all the wrong reasons. Just move the team already
- LeftCoaster


Gary's pet project...what an absolute joke.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
I think if you put decent players with Bonino or Sutter you would get decent numbers from both.

Canucks are a soft , country club team. Until this team cleans house this is what we get

- vancouverdawg

Looking forward to the day when there's a real change in the organization's players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
I would take Kenins or Sven over him as third line winger even Gaunce
- vancouverdawg

I'm unsure if Kenins is anymore then a 4th line energy player that scores once in a while. Vey did score 24 points last season. A decent first season. If Kenins did play the same amount he would have averaged more points though but Bo may have helped that.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
Like?
- LeftCoaster


Burrows, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Higgins

Non core, Vrbata, Matthias.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
Bonino looked good at the worlds and also when he was a Duck. Play him with talented wingers and not Higgins and Matthias and I am sure his numbers would improve
- vancouverdawg


Bonino with the right players will improve but we have to provide that somehow. When he was with Winnick and Cogliano in ANA they were considered the best third line in hockey for a period.

On Bonino/Sutter comparison. I watch Sutter here at my Arena in the CAN PRO camps all summer. Sutter is a better overall player. Bonino does have a better shot though just barely. Sutter is a way more mobile player and more well rounded IMO.

He would be a good addition here.
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