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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 9 @ 7:49 PM ET




According to TSN the Coyotes may be willing to trade the 3rd overall pick.

{To Coyotes} --- Luca Sbisa

{To Vancouver} --- 3rd overall pick in 2015
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 9 @ 7:51 PM ET
According to TSN the Coyotes may be willing to trade the 3rd overall pick.

{To Coyotes} --- Luca Sbisa

{To Vancouver} --- 3rd overall pick in 2015

- classic321


Seems legit. They're just getting a first round pick further along in development. It would be doing them a favour, really.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 7:58 PM ET
I'm not saying you specifically.
- golfingsince


I wonder who then
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 7:59 PM ET
According to TSN the Coyotes may be willing to trade one piece of poop for another

{To Coyotes} --- Luca Sbisa

{To Vancouver} --- Mike Smith

- classic321



Interesting
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 9 @ 8:03 PM ET
Interesting
- Nucker101



I'm pretty sure their is no rule that states you aren't allowed to have 3 backup goaltenders on the bench.

Canucks were the first to make a goalie their captain, now they can be the first to dress 4 goaltenders.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 9 @ 8:03 PM ET
I'm not sure, but what I do know is that Luongo was and still is a flat out better goalie and was an upgrade for many teams. How many teams is Miller a legit upgrade for? And is the upgrade for that team worth the 6M cap hit?
- Nucker101


I hardly even see why the term "stuck with " applies to a player with only 2 years on his contract.... unless the only purpose is to exaggerate. Miller will be gone before I throw away that jar at the back of my fridge with the one mushy pickle left in it. I think it has a pickle...it's too cloudy to see now.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:03 PM ET
I'm pretty sure their is no rule that states you aren't allowed to have 3 backup goaltenders on the bench.

Canucks were the first to make a goalie their captain, now they can be the first to dress 4 goaltenders.

- classic321


Smith would probably be our powerplay QB...also a great diver.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:04 PM ET
I hardly even see why the term "stuck with " applies to a player with only 2 years on his contract.... unless the only purpose is to exaggerate. Miller will be gone before I throw away that jar at the back of my fridge with the one mushy pickle left in it. I think it has a pickle...it's too cloudy to see now.

- boonerbuck


So we spent 6M on a player that we're just waiting on to finally leave? Sounds like money well spent and a player that will be in high demand around the league. Basically like Sbisa, we're banking on a sucker to give us anything of value. What does that tell you about the contracts we're handing out?
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 9 @ 8:07 PM ET


This is what I would prefer, but it won't do anything about replenishing our draft picks.

- CubanBuffet

What would be better a second round pick or Markstrom being promoted and taught the ropes for the future
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 9 @ 8:08 PM ET
According to TSN the Coyotes may be willing to trade the 3rd overall pick.

{To Coyotes} --- Luca Sbisa

{To Vancouver} --- 3rd overall pick in 2015

- classic321

They need to add
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 9 @ 8:13 PM ET
The market will dictate their move. If the trade values are even in the same ballpark you have to keep Lack, otherwise it's open for debate.
- Nucker101

If it is close even a late second rounder Markstrom gets moved
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:15 PM ET
If it is close even a late second rounder Markstrom gets moved
- vancouverdawg

Agreed, and I'd be pretty happy with that even as a Markstrom fan. Lack has proven to be a solid goalie in the NHL so the 15-20 spots in the 2nd round aren't worth giving him up instead unless a really good prospect somehow falls and is available at #31.
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jun 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
According to TSN the Coyotes may be willing to trade the 3rd overall pick.

{To Coyotes} --- Ryan Miller

{To Vancouver} --- Mike Smith

- classic321


Because i think Miller's contract is too short we need some stability in net.plus this will bring us until Demko is ready to take over then we trade both Lack and Markstrom for Draft picks and sign a cheap backup short term, someone like Budaj, Greiss, Ellis, Harding or bring back Labarbera Plus we can't get rid of The Pizza Man, Nucker might cry
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
Because i think Miller's contract is too short we need some stability in net.plus this will bring us until Demko is ready to take over then we trade both Lack and Markstrom for Draft picks and sign a cheap backup short term, someone like Budaj, Greiss, Ellis, Harding or bring back Labarbera Plus we can't get rid of The Pizza Man, Nucker might cry
- GloveHandStrong


The day Sbisa is traded or let go will be like my version of winning the Stanley Cup
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
The day Sbisa is traded or let go will be like my version of winning the Stanley Cup
- Nucker101

But his potential that we signed him for!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
But his potential that we signed him for!
- Retinalz


"Like he's physical and skates good and stuff. And like we locked up his UFA years and protected ourselves for when we lose Hamhuis and Bieksa"


Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 8:33 PM ET
"Like he's physical and skates good and stuff. And like we locked up his UFA years and protected ourselves for when we lose Hamhuis and Bieksa"



- Nucker101

When he is our 8th best Dman next year, playing #1 Dman minutes,you'll be singing a different tune!
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
The day Sbisa is traded or let go will be like my version of winning the Stanley Cup
- Nucker101


a-fecking-men
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jun 9 @ 8:35 PM ET
also this was a pretty interesting story on the Comets:
http://www.uticaod.com/ar...9/NEWS/150609409/?Start=1
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:35 PM ET
When he is our 8th best Dman next year, playing #1 Dman minutes,you'll be singing a different tune!
- Retinalz




This could be Jim's way of doing a subtle tank. Wasted money on Miller/Sbisa. Vrbata signing (frank)ed him over but he can makeup for it by trading him for a late 1st. If he moves Hamhuis and Lack now and keeps Bieksa, he'll be set up nicely
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jun 9 @ 8:36 PM ET
The day Sbisa is traded or let go will be like my version of winning the Stanley Cup
- Nucker101



you still might cry....... tears of joy
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:39 PM ET
you still might cry....... tears of joy
- GloveHandStrong

It'll be better than having a threesome with Ryan Kesler and Kate Upton
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 9 @ 8:40 PM ET
The market will dictate their move. If the trade values are even in the same ballpark you have to keep Lack, otherwise it's open for debate.
- Nucker101


Lack is gone unless the return for Markstrom is markedly better, even if it's equal, the younger goalie will stay. Lack won't resign for less than starter money (4-6 mil) and won't accept being a backup. Markstrom at least is an RFA and will be cheaper to sign and groom. Miller will not be going until the TDL of his last year on his deal unless he asks specifically for a trade.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 9 @ 8:40 PM ET
So we spent 6M on a player that we're just waiting on to finally leave? Sounds like money well spent and a player that will be in high demand around the league. Basically like Sbisa, we're banking on a sucker to give us anything of value. What does that tell you about the contracts we're handing out?
- Nucker101


It tells me this team isnt looking at the short term.... nor am I. I don't really care if it's money well spent over the next 2 or 3 years while we go through a transitional period... in fact, over achieving through this period will only work against us. The owner cares less about his money than you do. Stop being embarrassed on how he spends it.

We just got rid of a GM who was handing out 5 and 6 years contracts like it was the starting point on any negotiation. I'm more worried about who we have in the system that will improve on the plugs we have on D after the next 3 years.

Miller. Who cares. It was a solution to a vulnerability. Over achieving is one thing but then there is also a disaster potentially with seats already empty. The new GM comes in and plays it safe. Lack had shown he could be over played quickly and Markstrom still hadnt shown he could handle a start since the Canucks acquired him. He brought in a legit #1 on a short term contract. It was money wisely spent at the time. Hind sight is 50/50... but it's not a contract that can be called a blunder. I think more GM's in Jims place take this contract at that moment than not, all things being equal.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
It'll be better than having a threesome with Ryan Kesler and Upton Sinclair
- Nucker101



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