I would let them walk then and just clear salary. If Bieksa got put on waivers how many minutes would it take for Buffalo or Edmonton to claim his 2.5 mil salary?
- VANTEL

That's poor asset management, but that's what happens when your handcuffed. At least JB has experience with that part or the job.

I would like you to give examples of players that were in the AHL that were ruined by staying in the minors too long. Detroit leaves their prospects in the minors for as long as possible and they have a 24 year post season streak.
- manvanfan

Detroit does not leave their first rounders there as long as possible. They develop their long shots. How many first rounders have you ever seen that get developed until they are 23 or 24 to break into the league at 24 or 25 and become elite players??? In fact go back and look at their last 20 drafts, which first rounders besides Kronwall are top line material or top 3 D-men. They haven't had many first rounders, buuuut of the ones they have had, just as many were busts as there were that have made the nhl. Detroit has a good development system but they suck at drafting in the first round, that's probably why they trade their first rounders as often as not.

That's poor asset management, but that's what happens when your handcuffed. At least JB has experience with that part or the job.
- VanHockeyGuy

It will become more common with salary caps. Buy outs and waivers will increase if a player can't be traded.

Mike Richards last year.

Bruins are talking of moving Chara and Chi Sharpe. LA are talking of letting some Vets walk.

I know some will be done by trades but GMs will be looking at options to move players because of long term contracts and high salaries

Like Horvat, however WD was forced to give him a roster spot.
- VanHockeyGuy

And how did it work out? Did he hold his own? And improve/develop against the best players in the world? If he went back to jrs for another year there's a chance he could have regressed. I am a firm believer that you only improve by playing against better players. I don't believe you develop (frank) all by being the big fish in a small pond.

Like Horvat, however WD was forced to give him a roster spot.
- VanHockeyGuy

Kinda looked like Horvat played his way on...we know this for sure?

And how did it work out? Did he hold his own? And improve/develop against the best players in the world? If he went back to jrs for another year there's a chance he could have regressed. I am a firm believer that you only improve by playing against better players. I don't believe you develop (frank) all by being the big fish in a small pond.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I agree and I think JV should not be sent to JR next year either. 4 th line minutes

I agree and I think JV should not be sent to JR next year either. 4 th line minutes
- VANTEL

I agree and I think JV should not be sent to JR next year either. 4 th line minutes
- VANTEL

I give him a year in the AHL to get his shoulder prepared for the physical battles with the pros, other than that I think he deserves a shot.

Kinda looked like Horvat played his way on...we know this for sure?
- LordHumungous

He did, WD wanted him sent down. JB and Co thought otherwise. That's what concerns me about WD.

It will become more common with salary caps. Buy outs and waivers will increase if a player can't be traded.

Mike Richards last year.

Bruins are talking of moving Chara and Chi Sharpe. LA are talking of letting some Vets walk.

I know some will be done by trades but GMs will be looking at options to move players because of long term contracts and high salaries
- VANTEL

There's a lot of bad contracts out there in the NHL right now. I agree with you in that Benning has to start pushing older players out the door, even the Sedins….yes I said even the Sedins.

Time to get their heads in the right place and accept what we can all see. Easier said than done I know, it's a process that's gonna take some time, but he'd better start it this summer! Which he's acknowledged.

There's a lot of bad contracts out there in the NHL right now. I agree with you in that Benning has to start pushing older players out the door, even the Sedins….yes I said even the Sedins.

Time to get their heads in the right place and accept what we can all see. Easier said than done I know, it's a process that's gonna take some time, but he'd better start it this summer! Which he's acknowledged.
- LeftCoaster

Are you going to share the 'Rumor Chart' with us?

There's a lot of bad contracts out there in the NHL right now. I agree with you in that Benning has to start pushing older players out the door, even the Sedins….yes I said even the Sedins.

Time to get their heads in the right place and accept what we can all see. Easier said than done I know, it's a process that's gonna take some time, but he'd better start it this summer! Which he's acknowledged.
- LeftCoaster

Why not just make it simple? Anyone with a NTC.

Are you going to share the 'Rumor Chart' with us?
- Marwood

Spend a couple of minutes and make one yourself!

Spend a couple of minutes and make one yourself!
- VanHockeyGuy

Mrs. Marwood took the crayons away.

Are you going to share the 'Rumor Chart' with us?
- Marwood

I just looked at it. I think Ek took one from Vantels wild deal ideas about nash too Vancouver.

Are you going to share the 'Rumor Chart' with us?
- Marwood

Just ask and I'll tell ya lol

Why not just make it simple? Anyone with a NTC.
- VanHockeyGuy

Guys like Bieksa, Higgins and Hansen have a NTC and they hold value around the league, easier to move IMO.

Players like Hamhuis, who's tightly connected to the province and city might be pretty hard to move, but hopefully Benning asks anyways.

Burrows is an effective player, but he makes 4.5 million (cap hit) which would make him difficult to move IMO.

The Sedins for all intents and purposes wouldn't accept any type of trade, but I'd still explore the idea and float it to them?

Guys like Bieksa, Higgins and Hansen have a NTC and they hold value around the league, easier to move IMO.

Players like Hamhuis, who's tightly connected to the province and city might be pretty hard to move, but hopefully Benning asks anyways.

Burrows is an effective player, but he makes 4.5 million (cap hit) which would make him difficult to move IMO.

The Sedins for all intents and purposes wouldn't accept any type of trade, but I'd still explore the idea and float it to them?
- LeftCoaster

An excellent player for a team trying to get to the cap floor because his salary is only 4 and 3 over his last two years.

Guys like Bieksa, Higgins and Hansen have a NTC and they hold value around the league, easier to move IMO.

Players like Hamhuis, who's tightly connected to the province and city might be pretty hard to move, but hopefully Benning asks anyways.

Burrows is an effective player, but he makes 4.5 million (cap hit) which would make him difficult to move IMO.

The Sedins for all intents and purposes would accept any type of trade, but I'd still explore the idea and float it to them?
- LeftCoaster

Hamhuis I don't ask. Not just because of his ties(Which is a major factor) but because of his value on the blue line. He makes his line mates and his team better. He's only 32. Unless Hammer brings back a kings ransom I don't bother.

An excellent player for a team trying to get to the cap floor because his salary is only 4 and 3 over his last two years.
- manvanfan

Hello Glendale.

And how did it work out? Did he hold his own? And improve/develop against the best players in the world? If he went back to jrs for another year there's a chance he could have regressed. I am a firm believer that you only improve by playing against better players. I don't believe you develop (frank) all by being the big fish in a small pond.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I love your enthusiasm! What I don't like is that because there is one exception, that everyone is the exception. If you can't play in the NHL, you don't belong.

He did, WD wanted him sent down. JB and Co thought otherwise. That's what concerns me about WD.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think that is a BS rumour. He earned it.

I love your enthusiasm! What I don't like is that because there is one exception, that everyone is the exception. If you can't play in the NHL, you don't belong.
- manvanfan

Like Jensen. Picked in the first round, therefor.... Bust!

Hello Quebec City.
- thundachunk

Fixed

Fixed
- Marwood

Seattle