Kari faced top lines more than bozak. Fact.
- burn

Unbelievable.

relax. we're not talking about Nik Lidstrom or Scott Neidermayer here.
- DoubleDown

What were Lidstrom and Niedermayer when they were 21 years old?


Lidstrom was in Sweden and Niedermayer was really good but that has nothing to do with the fact that Rielly is one of most exciting young d-men the Leafs have ever had

Kari faced top lines more than bozak. Fact.
- burn

Funny thing is you were the one ranting on about people arguing when facts are given.

Seriously stop saying this. It's not supported by facts.
- KesselRules

Yes it is. Faceoffs do not outweigh offensive or defensive ability.

Yes it is. Faceoffs do not outweigh offensive or defensive ability.
- burn

We're arguing about whose better in faceoff. Stop bringing other poop in.

YOU ARE WRONG.

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak

Are you dense?

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak

Here's stats that ignores Kadri padding his opponents stats and Bozaks decreasing his opponents.
- KesselRules

No he's not. The difference in face offs is far to small to justify him being out on the ice being a drain everywhere else.
- burn

The Goat will be that prototypical FO/defensive guy for us in another couple years, for a lot less than 4.2 milly

- burn

It's obvious you don't like facts.

Funny thing is you were the one ranting on about people arguing when facts are given.
- KesselRules

Did French not post facts?

What were Lidstrom and Niedermayer when they were 21 years old?

- t_leafs21

is this for real?

Are you dense?

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak

Here's stats that ignores Kadri padding his opponents stats and Bozaks decreasing his opponents.
- KesselRules

thats a weighted FO stat.. and yes Bozak had tougher matchups in regards to Faceoffs
Although very slightly

Kadri 49.8
Bozak 50.2

And he did much better than Kadri when taking slightly tougher face off matchups

Others are also talking about overall QoC (not specifically FO)
so there both are right..kinda

For what in return?
- As_I_See_It

Hmmm... this years 1st and 3rd , Kuznetzov, Bowey, next year 2nd, another mid-round or middling prospect, and throw in Laich and whomever to make it palatable salary wise...

Did French not post facts?
- burn

Yea and re butted it by posting facts without kadri padding his opponents stats.

You choose to believe the one that supports your view when it's not the true picture.

We're arguing about whose better in faceoff. Stop bringing other poop in.

YOU ARE WRONG.

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak
- KesselRules

Actually, this shows that Kadri took a lot of faceoffs against #1 centers...

We're arguing about whose better in faceoff. Stop bringing other poop in.

YOU ARE WRONG.

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak
- KesselRules

Bozak is better fo, no one said otherwise we're saying that those fo do not make him valuable.

Try to keep up before you start tossi g insults

thats a weighted FO stat.. and yes Bozak had tougher matchups in regards to Faceoffs
Although very slightly

Kadri 49.8
Bozak 50.2

And he did much better than Kadri when taking slightly tougher face off matchups

Others are also talking about overall QoC (not specifically FO)
so there both are right..kinda
- senstroll

But according to Burn Kadri is better. When there's a 4% difference when they are facing similar competition.

Yea and re butted it by posting facts without kadri padding his opponents stats.

You choose to believe the one that supports your view when it's not the true picture.
- KesselRules

What?

fk off I didnt insult anybody except you...right now
- jimi james

you're something else

Bozak is better fo, no one said otherwise we're saying that those fo do not make him valuable.

Try to keep up before you start tossi g insults
- burn

No we're not. Stop changing the subject. I only rebutting the notion that Bozak was worse on face offs. (which YOU got pissy about)

You keeps arguing that he was better.

Stop trying to save face now.

But according to Burn Kadri is better. When there's a 4% difference when they are facing similar competition.
- KesselRules

Nobody thinks Kadri is better at faceoffs than Bozak


We just think Bozak (frank)ing sucks. That's all

Kadri is a better player. Try and argue that all you want, but you will be wrong.

is this for real?
- Pecafan Fan

I say that Rielly is a franchise calibre d-man that should be signed long term and you say, "He's not Lidstrom or Niedermayer"


You're a goof

But according to Burn Kadri is better. When there's a 4% difference when they are facing similar competition.
- KesselRules

Do you have reading issues? Can you post where I said he was better face offs?

Kadri is a better player, bizarre is better at one thing fo.

you're something else
- DoubleDown

Yes, a carrot.

you're something else
- DoubleDown

and you are nothing
so lick my bootstraps female dog

No we're not. Stop changing the subject. I only rebutting the notion that Bozak was worse on face offs. (which YOU got pissy about)

You keeps arguing that he was better.

Stop trying to save face now.
- KesselRules

Wtf are you talking about. Never once said Kari was better fo.

Omg