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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
Definitely if Roy is there at 21 we take him. If not, take Carlo there.
- adambuffalo

http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/

real good chance carlo is there at 31
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
Yep - this would be a solid top 4 picks (if we keep them all)

#2 Eichel
#21 Roy
#31 Blackwood or Samsonov (though Samsonov may be gone)
#51 Greenway

Alternatively, Trade #21, 31 and 51 for around #10 or 11 and:

#10 or 11 Werenski or Zboril

- turbo044



2 - Eichel
21 - Bittner
31 - Kylington
51 - Spencer

Trade a 4th rd pick this and 3rd next year for a goalie in NHL. Someone will bite on that offer.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
maybe but probably unlikely- I was going on McKenzie's rankings and he had Zbotil at #13. Werenski is the one I'd covet to move up for though
- turbo044

I really think the sharks grab him at 9
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:11 PM ET
I like Brock Boeser at pick 31
- homiedclown


Very solid choice - quite a sniper, decent size. AND RW is a desperate need for us.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
We still need Jeremy Roy in that mix, plays in the style of Ryan Suter. Once we get that kinda guy into the system, I think we'll be ok for a long time.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
Yep - this would be a solid top 4 picks (if we keep them all)

#2 Eichel
#21 Roy
#31 Blackwood or Samsonov (though Samsonov may be gone)
#51 Greenway

Alternatively, Trade #21, 31 and 51 for around #10 or 11 and:

#10 or 11 Werenski or Zboril

- turbo044


I don think the need is so great at D to move up. Granted Werenski is pretty close to nhl ready. There are a handful Of D men you can get late 1st to mid 2nd. So even trading back for a few extra pick wouldnt be a bad idea.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
2 - Eichel
21 - Bittner
31 - Kylington
51 - Spencer

Trade a 4th rd pick this and 3rd next year for a goalie in NHL. Someone will bite on that offer.

- ImThatGuy


Don't like Bittner with #21 - we need RW currently, not LW and I think there will be better players at 21 than him.

Kylington at 31 is great risk/reward if he last to 31

Spencer at 51 would be excellent too
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
With our later picks I say we take Sebastian Aho and Sebastian Aho, just because. Two guys, different countries, different positions.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
Don't like Bittner with #21 - we need RW currently, not LW and I think there will be better players at 21 than him.

Kylington at 31 is great risk/reward if he last to 31

Spencer at 51 would be excellent too

- turbo044


LW has very little quality depth. Once Matt Moulson is gone, we need a top 6 to step right in.

I'd say draft a top 6 LW, trade for a young RW.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:33 PM ET
With our later picks I say we take Sebastian Aho and Sebastian Aho, just because. Two guys, different countries, different positions.
- adambuffalo


I've been on board with that idea since September. It'd be marvelous.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:34 PM ET
We still need Jeremy Roy in that mix, plays in the style of Ryan Suter. Once we get that kinda guy into the system, I think we'll be ok for a long time.
- TheSabresTaco


I like Zboril the most out of the Top 10 dmen. I think hes the steal of the 1st round if you can get him
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:37 PM ET
Don't like Bittner with #21 - we need RW currently, not LW and I think there will be better players at 21 than him.

Kylington at 31 is great risk/reward if he last to 31

Spencer at 51 would be excellent too

- turbo044


We need top end forwards. At any position.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Wouldn't be surprised to see picks traded for next year's draft. More picks for a draft in Buffalo, plus more shots at a top 3 pick.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
Wouldn't be surprised to see picks traded for next year's draft. More picks for a draft in Buffalo, plus more shots at a top 3 pick.
- adambuffalo


I think this si about 0% in the mind of Murray. I wouldnt doubt if we traded our 1st next year
SabresNation11
Joined: 04.04.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
Props Michael, great article as always. Really excited about watching the development of our young guys Ristolainen, Zadorov, McCabe, Pysyk, and Ruhwedel. Especially Ristolainen, hopefully he joins the conversation of all those top defensemen in the league you mentioned in the beginning of the article in the near future. Also, Zack Bogosian is still young and could develop more offensively, either way still a solid top four guy. Zadorov has a high ceiling and hopefully ends up on the top pairing with Ristolainen down the road. Leaving McCabe and Pysyk slotting into the 4 and 5 spots.

As for Ruwedel, I'm under the impression his contract has a clause stating he must clear waivers this year if he's going to be sent down to Rochester. Not sure if that is correct? Weber is on his last leg here and this will most likely be his last year. Hopefully Gorges has a better year and can hold down the fort for a couple seasons until the young guys can take over full time. Keep drafting and developing so when we make cup runs in the future we have the depth and don't have the same issues as 2005-06 season.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
I think this si about 0% in the mind of Murray. I wouldnt doubt if we traded our 1st next year
- hubie


I completely disagree. I think Terry Pegula is letting the hockey guys do there thing, but trading next year's 1st is where he would step in. No owner would allow that to happen.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
I completely disagree. I think Terry Pegula is letting the hockey guys do there thing, but trading next year's 1st is where he would step in. No owner would allow that to happen.
- adambuffalo


For a top flight guy who can turn this franschise into a winner. No question he would deal the pick.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
does coho have a partial nmc?

I have to think a team close to the floor would take a shot on him

the blues had interest at the deadline last year, maybe eat some of the cap, and trade him there for a player they want to unload

hell trade him straight up for jaybow

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
does coho have a partial nmc?

I have to think a team close to the floor would take a shot on him

the blues had interest at the deadline last year, maybe eat some of the cap, and trade him there for a player they want to unload

hell trade him straight up for jaybow

- homiedclown



Not according to this.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/299

Even if he did, it hasn't kicked in as (unless they changed the rules) he needs to be in his UFA years of the contract.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
does coho have a partial nmc?

I have to think a team close to the floor would take a shot on him

the blues had interest at the deadline last year, maybe eat some of the cap, and trade him there for a player they want to unload

hell trade him straight up for jaybow

- homiedclown


Judging by his skating last lyear id say he has a full no movement clause..... HEY OH
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Judging by his skating last lyear id say he has a full no movement clause..... HEY OH
- hubie

bigpoppa720
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
does coho have a partial nmc?

I have to think a team close to the floor would take a shot on him

the blues had interest at the deadline last year, maybe eat some of the cap, and trade him there for a player they want to unload

hell trade him straight up for jaybow

- homiedclown


Two trades and a signing suggestion (I know wont happen);
1. Sabres send Hodgson, Baptiste & 2015 NYI 1st to Toronto (Yuck) for Kessel & 3 million each of the last three years of his contract.
2. Sabres send Moulson, Grigorenko, Pysyk to Colorado for O'Reilly & 2015 3rd.
3. Sign Mike Green or Paul Martin

Then; LW Kane C Eichel RW Kessel
LW Gurgensons C O'Reilly RW Ennis
LW Foligno C Reinhart RW Gionta
LW Deslaurier C Larson RW Varone/McCormick

Gets rid of hodgson, limits cost on Kessel in later years and gets us top line RW
Gets rid of Moulson contract that I think is overkill, and gets that mid 20 player for Grigorenko who wont have position. Losing Pysyk and Baptiste I don't like but you have replacements in McCabe & Bailey/Fasching.
Martin/Green replace pysyk which I would take right now.
Just some ideas.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
Two trades and a signing suggestion (I know wont happen);
1. Sabres send Hodgson, Baptiste & 2015 NYI 1st to Toronto (Yuck) for Kessel & 3 million each of the last three years of his contract.
2. Sabres send Moulson, Grigorenko, Pysyk to Colorado for O'Reilly & 2015 3rd.
3. Sign Mike Green or Paul Martin

Then; LW Kane C Eichel RW Kessel
LW Gurgensons C O'Reilly RW Ennis
LW Foligno C Reinhart RW Gionta
LW Deslaurier C Larson RW Varone/McCormick

Gets rid of hodgson, limits cost on Kessel in later years and gets us top line RW
Gets rid of Moulson contract that I think is overkill, and gets that mid 20 player for Grigorenko who wont have position. Losing Pysyk and Baptiste I don't like but you have replacements in McCabe & Bailey/Fasching.
Martin/Green replace pysyk which I would take right now.
Just some ideas.

- bigpoppa720


Pass. x a lot
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
Two trades and a signing suggestion (I know wont happen);
1. Sabres send Hodgson, Baptiste & 2015 NYI 1st to Toronto (Yuck) for Kessel & 3 million each of the last three years of his contract.
2. Sabres send Moulson, Grigorenko, Pysyk to Colorado for O'Reilly & 2015 3rd.
3. Sign Mike Green or Paul Martin

Then; LW Kane C Eichel RW Kessel
LW Gurgensons C O'Reilly RW Ennis
LW Foligno C Reinhart RW Gionta
LW Deslaurier C Larson RW Varone/McCormick

Gets rid of hodgson, limits cost on Kessel in later years and gets us top line RW
Gets rid of Moulson contract that I think is overkill, and gets that mid 20 player for Grigorenko who wont have position. Losing Pysyk and Baptiste I don't like but you have replacements in McCabe & Bailey/Fasching.
Martin/Green replace pysyk which I would take right now.
Just some ideas.

- bigpoppa720



#1. No thank you. There is no place for Kessel here. We don't need someone like him on a young rebuilding team to set a bad example for our young guys.

#2 I'd do that

#3 Don't need either of those guys for the amount they will demand in FA. They would not line up in our time frame.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 1:47 PM ET
I completely disagree. I think Terry Pegula is letting the hockey guys do there thing, but trading next year's 1st is where he would step in. No owner would allow that to happen.
- adambuffalo

New Jersey did it when they acquired Schneider and the fans seemed pretty happy.
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