give them one/two more years to help with the transition of some of the younger players and then give them the option if they want to go somewhere to try to win a cup. It's their call as far as i'm concerned. They've earned it with their play and their contributions to the community. Best Canucks ever.... maybe not the most exciting, but the best.
- Mungo

Ya it's a tough decision and I know it'll never happen, but trading them would bring you a bunch of youth that'd accelerate the process.

Much like the Hawks, I think you need a core group of guys within five years of each of each other to build that team that can compete year after year.

Colorado and Edmonton have that if they can fix their defense.

How the (frank) is Iguodala The Finals MVP?!?!?

So brutal.
- As_I_See_It

His free throws were so impressive they had to give it to him.

Ya it's a tough decision and I know it'll never happen, but trading them would bring you a bunch of youth that'd accelerate the process.

Much like the Hawks, I think you need a core group of guys within five years of each of each other to build that team that can compete year after year.

Colorado and Edmonton have that if they can fix their defense.
- LeftCoaster

The only way I see both Sedins traded is in the final year of their contract at TDL to a contending team to give them a chance to win the cup. At TDL in the last year the cap for both sedins will be about 3.5 and will be doable for some teams if we take in salary. I think we can expect a return similar to what Calgary got for Iggy.

The only way I see both Sedins traded is in the final year of their contract at TDL to a contending team to give them a chance to win the cup. At TDL in the last year the cap for both sedins will be about 3.5 and will be doable for some teams if we take in salary. I think we can expect a return similar to what Calgary got for Iggy.
- Linden_4_Capt

except for each twin.

The only way I see both Sedins traded is in the final year of their contract at TDL to a contending team to give them a chance to win the cup. At TDL in the last year the cap for both sedins will be about 3.5 and will be doable for some teams if we take in salary. I think we can expect a return similar to what Calgary got for Iggy.
- Linden_4_Capt

The sad thing is they got next to nothing for Jarome. None of those pieces have ever played for the Flames and that was three years ago.

except for each twin.
- Retinalz

Pittsburgh's first round selection at the 2013 NHL Entry Draft (28th Morgan Klimchuk) and college prospects Kenneth Agostino and Ben Hanowski.

except for each twin.
- Retinalz

Does it matter? The return for Iggy was nothing of value. My point is that it will be doing a favour to the Sedins by sending them to a team that can win them a ring as a thankyou for all of the years of dedicated service. We have had similar trades in history. Look at Rob Blake, Bourke,....
I think as fans we will be disappointed with the returns. Any contending team will be at Cap and to take on 3-3.5 in cap hit will require salary dump and low picks and b prospects.

Does it matter? The return for Iggy was nothing of value. My point is that it will be doing a favour to the Sedins by sending them to a team that can win them a ring as a thankyou for all of the years of dedicated service. We have had similar trades in history. Look at Rob Blake, Bourke,....
I think as fans we will be disappointed with the returns. Any contending team will be at Cap and to take on 3-3.5 in cap hit will require salary dump and low picks and b prospects.
- Linden_4_Capt

If they were traded now to say play behind John Tavares as a second line, they could have a real chance at a Cup now, plus, the return would be good as they have tons of youth on their team.

give them one/two more years to help with the transition of some of the younger players and then give them the option if they want to go somewhere to try to win a cup. It's their call as far as i'm concerned. They've earned it with their play and their contributions to the community. Best Canucks ever.... maybe not the most exciting, but the best.
- Mungo

It won't be enough and it's to late already. We'll probably end up like what the leafs are now, for a few years(bottom 3-8 team in the league) for 5-7 years. Because we have absolutely no vets worth high value in trades any more. So we're gonna have to stink the joint up before we get better.

His free throws were so impressive they had to give it to him.
- Scooby_Doo

I think it was more to do with the comment from Lebron. I am the best player in the world and I know it. Giving him the MVP would have just validated that point. League needs to prove that they are bigger then just 1 player. But then maybe the league was really impressed with Iguidala's ppg and his ability to stop Lebron.

If they were traded now to say play behind John Tavares as a second line, they could have a real chance at a Cup now, plus, the return would be good as they have tons of youth on their team.
- LeftCoaster

The question is do you really believe that Islanders are poised to win it all? Will the Sedins believe that Islanders will give them the best chance to win it all? I don't believe so .I think it will be to a team like Pit, Chi, Ana...
Imagine a Chi team of Toews, Kane Danny Hank, Hossa, Keith, Seabs...it would be insane.
Or Sedins in Anaheim behind Getz and Perry with Kesler riding shotgun.
My point is that we as fans looks at the teams that will give us the most value and has somewhat of a shot to make the dance and go far but the trading teams and Sedins will look at that team that will give them the absolute best shot at winning it all. And those teams are all going to be cap teams with no space and will have to dump salary and wont give up much to take the sedins.

The sad thing is they got next to nothing for Jarome. None of those pieces have ever played for the Flames and that was three years ago.
- LeftCoaster

They got what they deserved for refusing to move on. You can only kick the can for so long.

Pittsburgh's first round selection at the 2013 NHL Entry Draft (28th Morgan Klimchuk) and college prospects Kenneth Agostino and Ben Hanowski.


- LeftCoaster

Tearing it up at a local pub somewhere...

The question is do you really believe that Islanders are poised to win it all? Will the Sedins believe that Islanders will give them the best chance to win it all? I don't believe so .I think it will be to a team like Pit, Chi, Ana...
Imagine a Chi team of Toews, Kane Danny Hank, Hossa, Keith, Seabs...it would be insane.
Or Sedins in Anaheim behind Getz and Perry with Kesler riding shotgun.
My point is that we as fans looks at the teams that will give us the most value and has somewhat of a shot to make the dance and go far but the trading teams and Sedins will look at that team that will give them the absolute best shot at winning it all. And those teams are all going to be cap teams with no space and will have to dump salary and wont give up much to take the sedins.
- Linden_4_Capt

I do think the Islanders are right there knocking at the door, especially with the twins. They've got a franchise center and a bunch of depth behind him plus decent goaltending and some good defence as well.

Obviously there are other fits, that was just one I was thinking of that came to me first. They've also got the cap space to pull it off, just over 14 million and they're obviously going to be sending money back our way if they did something like that.

But….all for not, as they're never getting traded.

I do think the Islanders are right there knocking at the door, especially with the twins. They've got a franchise center and a bunch of depth behind him plus decent goaltending and some good defence as well.

Obviously there are other fits, that was just one I was thinking of that came to me first. They've also got the cap space to pull it off, just over 14 million and they're obviously going to be sending money back our way if they did something like that.

But….all for not, as they're never getting traded.
- LeftCoaster

I was just about to say something along these lines. I think Silently Halak had a great year 38 W's, 6 shutouts, 2.43Gaa was pretty decent.

I think we retain huge salary as well if the Sedins were to go. But I don't see that happening. I do see us being a bottom feeder for 5-10 years though after them, miller, Hamhuis, bieksa are gone. Because gillis never had a succession plan and we don't really have true 3rd liners, let alone a second line that's challenging the sedins to become a first line when the sedins are in their twilight years.

I was thinking, dangerous I know, why couldn't the Canucks maintain their dominance after 2011. Looking back, it's right there in front of me.

The twins were already 30 years old, Burrows was 29, Samuelsson was 33, etc. etc. the team was already old.

When the Hawks started winning Toews, Kane, Keith & Seabrook were in their early to mid 20's. This makes me wanna trade the twins (never happen I know) to re-build the team.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. We also weren't able to replace key players like Malhotra and Ehrhoff.

Gillis also allowed the group to get a little stale. Most teams who end up winning the Stanley Cup have a little turnover at some point to keep things fresh. The Canucks never did.

Also, Cody Hodgson.

Tearing it up at a local pub somewhere...
- rugdnit

Kassian

Pittsburgh's first round selection at the 2013 NHL Entry Draft (28th Morgan Klimchuk) and college prospects Kenneth Agostino and Ben Hanowski.


- LeftCoaster

Same age as cassels ...similar numbers this year

Players make half the money. Period.

If revenues skyrocket unexpectedly one season the players will be paid more. Like a reverse escrow.

The players keep voting to raise the cap simply because it's towing the company line and helps the union (although it doesn't really). But raising the cap each year serves to do nothing but hurt every player currently under contract as the more the cap raises, the more they lose in escrow.

Too bad hockey players don't go to college like other athletes so they could learn some f*cking math.
- KB3Point0

Players are paid 57% of revenue which creates the cap and if the revenue skyrocketed the cap would go up and UFA's would be able to make more money but players who were already signed are not going to get more.

Escrow as it is right now with revenue going down takes money from players contracts that are already signed.

The example that I used earlier was the Sedin's contract, they made 14 million between the two of them last year but because of escrow they will receive ~12 million.
In years that revenue goes up they don't get "reverse escrow" and receive a bonus, but the cap will go up allowing UFA's to potentially get more.

Lack for Edmonton's 2016 first? Maybe they'll pay more if they don't have to pay right away. I want that pick.

Lack for Edmonton's 2016 first? Maybe they'll pay more if they don't have to pay right away. I want that pick.
- CubanBuffet

Goalie market sucks man, Lack aint getting a 1st. And who knows what kind of an impact Mcdavid will have that could very likely be a 15th overall.

All things considered I'd rather try my damndest to move The old guy before giving up the up and comer.

And if were left with an unproven Markstrom in two years we COULD be screwed.

Goalie market sucks man, Lack aint getting a 1st. And who knows what kind of an impact Mcdavid will have that could very likely be a 15th overall.

All things considered I'd rather try my damndest to move The old guy before giving up the up and comer.

And if were left with an unproven Markstrom in two years we COULD be screwed.
- vancity787

If the cap is barely going up. I don't see the value of some of the guys we want gone to be very high. Will get fleeced like Boston did for boychuk. I'd rather get rid of just one big contract with fair value and then get rid of the rest as teams com come calling throughout the year.

The question is do you really believe that Islanders are poised to win it all? Will the Sedins believe that Islanders will give them the best chance to win it all? I don't believe so .I think it will be to a team like Pit, Chi, Ana...
Imagine a Chi team of Toews, Kane Danny Hank, Hossa, Keith, Seabs...it would be insane.
Or Sedins in Anaheim behind Getz and Perry with Kesler riding shotgun.
My point is that we as fans looks at the teams that will give us the most value and has somewhat of a shot to make the dance and go far but the trading teams and Sedins will look at that team that will give them the absolute best shot at winning it all. And those teams are all going to be cap teams with no space and will have to dump salary and wont give up much to take the sedins.
- Linden_4_Capt

Big key to moving them. I dont think it'll ever happen, and I am ok with them staying if management can bring in players to reduce their role from 1st to 2nd and even 3rd line specialists to finish their careers

Sedins will not be traded.

Sedins will not be traded.
- pker2theend

This.