Anderson is a great goalie and seems to get even better the more clutch the situation becomes. He's getting older but hasn't shown it yet, like Miller has for example. I still remember his 50+ save performance for the Avs v SJ some years back. I swear about half of those 50 were from prime shooting positions (in the slot, point-blankers, etc).

If he's on the block he should net a solid return. Lehner shouldn't net more that a 2nd, which is the same valuation I'd give Lack.
- AlexF

Anderson is definitely signed at a more reasonable cap hit.

It all depends if the interested club wants 3 more years or a more short term solution. Ottawa's situation in goal is very similar to ours.

I saw in the other thread someone say that the sedins "will" not be traded. Fair enough. I thinks it's more that they CAN'T be traded. There's be no interest in 35 year old players in a decline making 7 million/year that need to play with eachother to be decent & are only 1 dimensional players to boot.

I saw in the other thread someone say that the sedins "will" not be traded. Fair enough. I thinks it's more that they CAN'T be traded. There's be no interest in 35 year old players in a decline making 7 million/year that need to play with eachother to be decent & are only 1 dimensional players to boot.
- I-own_da-Northwest

We're stuck with the Sedins. The best we can hope for is Horvat and Virtanen progress at the same remarkable clip as Gaudreau and Monahan. Then we can play the pair of them as top liners allowing the Sedins to play 2nd line minutes (and hopefully against 2nd line opposition), which should make this team pretty damn good all of a sudden IMO. Likely won't happen though.

I saw in the other thread someone say that the sedins "will" not be traded. Fair enough. I thinks it's more that they CAN'T be traded. There's be no interest in 35 year old players in a decline making 7 million/year that need to play with eachother to be decent & are only 1 dimensional players to boot.
- I-own_da-Northwest

So many things wrong with this post...
Yes, going from above a point per game to a point per game is declining, but by no means will they plummet to 30 point players. Second, they have proved they don't need each other at various points throughout their career (Hank's MVP season?), its just stupid to split them knowing how great they can play together. And to your last point, 1 dimensional? They aren't going to win the Selke or have the most hits, but you don't need to worry about their defensive game in the slightest. It is rare they are out of position or get burned on a play. The ONLY thing blocking a trade is them and potentially the combined cap hit, but I'm sure 29 other teams would try their best to make space for them

The Sedins were in the top 20 in scoring were they not. Pretty Damn amazing they are not and have never been the issue. The r3st of the team is what is lacking. Build a good defensive team with some two way dmen and watch how good well be

We're stuck with the Sedins. The best we can hope for is Horvat and Virtanen progress at the same remarkable clip as Gaudreau and Monahan. Then we can play the pair of them as top liners allowing the Sedins to play 2nd line minutes (and hopefully against 2nd line opposition), which should make this team pretty damn good all of a sudden IMO. Likely won't happen though.
- AlexF

No, I think you're right. I think we'll probably have 7-10 years of suffering ahead. Gillis had no succession plan. It was always project players and a tweek to win now.

The Sedins were in the top 20 in scoring were they not. Pretty Damn amazing they are not and have never been the issue. The r3st of the team is what is lacking. Build a good defensive team with some two way dmen and watch how good well be
- The_Kuze

Daniel tied for 8th, Hank tied for 10th, totally dragging the team down

So many things wrong with this post...
Yes, going from above a point per game to a point per game is declining, but by no means will they plummet to 30 point players. Second, they have proved they don't need each other at various points throughout their career (Hank's MVP season?), its just stupid to split them knowing how great they can play together. And to your last point, 1 dimensional? They aren't going to win the Selke or have the most hits, but you don't need to worry about their defensive game in the slightest. It is rare they are out of position or get burned on a play. The ONLY thing blocking a trade is them and potentially the combined cap hit, but I'm sure 29 other teams would try their best to make space for them
- WhiteLie

I get it, you remember what the Sedins were like 4-8 seasons ago. But I'm a Canuck fan first and foremost. Have you ever watched them on the defensive side of things when they don't have the puck? The thing is they're so good with it they rarely cough it up. But it's a nightmare watching them in their zone without the puck.

Daniel tied for 8th, Hank tied for 10th, totally dragging the team down
- WhiteLie

I bet you expect 100-120 point bounce back years for each of them.

No, I think you're right. I think we'll probably have 7-10 years of suffering ahead. Gillis had no succession plan. It was always project players and a tweek to win now.
- I-own_da-Northwest

7-10 years? lol Even if the sedins left in 3 years you think it would take us 4-7 years to turn things around to where we are now? That would mean none of our current prospects step up and we keep finishing too high to draft a higher pick? No ufa signings, no trades and no development would produce the above scenario. 5% chance of that happening.

Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff
#Canucks with 1 pick in first 3 rounds of draft yet interviewed 65/120 kids combine. Sounds like a GM who plans on having a few more picks

31 for Lack. Let's do it!!

Go!
- mhp

Lack to SJ for Dillon

We're stuck with the Sedins. The best we can hope for is Horvat and Virtanen progress at the same remarkable clip as Gaudreau and Monahan. Then we can play the pair of them as top liners allowing the Sedins to play 2nd line minutes (and hopefully against 2nd line opposition), which should make this team pretty damn good all of a sudden IMO. Likely won't happen though.
- AlexF

Oh it could very well happen, but we'll still have the same defense.

Lack to SJ for Dillon
- VANTEL

You would actually trade him within the conference?

7-10 years? lol Even if the sedins left in 3 years you think it would take us 4-7 years to turn things around to where we are now? That would mean none of our current prospects step up and we keep finishing too high to draft a higher pick? No ufa signings, no trades and no development would produce the above scenario. 5% chance of that happening.
- anavar

Depends what you define as "suffering". I would say a lot of Canuck fans are doing just that with this team, and that's with a team that made the playoffs. This city wants a cup or, at least, some deep playoff runs to cheer about. Constantly losing in the 1st round doesn't give anyone the warm and fuzzies and this team has begun to specialize in it.

So with that in mind how long will it take this team to turn into an ANA, CHI, etc.? Might be a while.

7-10 years? lol Even if the sedins left in 3 years you think it would take us 4-7 years to turn things around to where we are now? That would mean none of our current prospects step up and we keep finishing too high to draft a higher pick? No ufa signings, no trades and no development would produce the above scenario. 5% chance of that happening.
- anavar

Well our last 15 years should be some indication of our previous drafting/developing.

In the last 15 drafts what do we currently have playing in our roster? Bieksa, Hansen, Horvat?

95% chance of being elite.

Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff
#Canucks with 1 pick in first 3 rounds of draft yet interviewed 65/120 kids combine. Sounds like a GM who plans on having a few more picks
- AlexF

Benning is not a good liar . His answers were mostly honest but there was a lot of lip service. Minutes ago he did reiterate he is going for speed , skill and grit. He sure hinted around making room available . He came out and said this year Markstrom COrrado and Clendenning are all NHL ready players this year. He was very impressed with JV . Grenier was most improved and ready to jump , he also said Shink and Gaunce were ready. That's a lost of spots to open up

You would actually trade him within the conference?
- mhp

Yes

Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff
#Canucks with 1 pick in first 3 rounds of draft yet interviewed 65/120 kids combine. Sounds like a GM who plans on having a few more picks
- AlexF

JB's recent signings haven't garnered him much love from the fan base, lets see if a guy that seems known for his scouting can make some trades to recoup some picks and draft some gems.

watch him make some moves that involve accumulating picks for next draft.

Benning is not a good liar . His answers were mostly honest but there was a lot of lip service. Minutes ago he did reiterate he is going for speed , skill and grit. He sure hinted around making room available . He came out and said this year Markstrom COrrado and Clendenning are all NHL ready players this year. He was very impressed with JV . Grenier was most improved and ready to jump , he also said Shink and Gaunce were ready. That's a lost of spots to open up
- VANTEL

Moves will be made. Just hoping there isn't some perverse sense of loyalty to the core and he just mixes up the supporting cast.

I get it, you remember what the Sedins were like 4-8 seasons ago. But I'm a Canuck fan first and foremost. Have you ever watched them on the defensive side of things when they don't have the puck? The thing is they're so good with it they rarely cough it up. But it's a nightmare watching them in their zone without the puck.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Yeah I have watched them, many times. I am not sure how the Sedin's are the disaster in their own zone? Being solid defensively as a forward is pretty simple, winger covers the point, weak side slides into high slot while the center supports the D down low. If anything, its playing with Bieska, Sbisa etc. thats causing the "nightmare" youre watching. I get it, you think they all need to be feisty, physical players like Kesler to be good defensive forwards while others can just be solid

I bet you expect 100-120 point bounce back years for each of them.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Nope butI would be pretty surprised if they ever drop below 70 points in a season before their contracts expire

We're stuck with the Sedins. The best we can hope for is Horvat and Virtanen progress at the same remarkable clip as Gaudreau and Monahan. Then we can play the pair of them as top liners allowing the Sedins to play 2nd line minutes (and hopefully against 2nd line opposition), which should make this team pretty damn good all of a sudden IMO. Likely won't happen though.
- AlexF

Someone said give them two more years to make the transition easier. It is thos two years that instead of drafting a player like Kane and Toews with the top three pick we will get mid draft players like Jensen and Gaunce.

I really don't get why fans don't want to go after high draft picks for three years

Benning is not a good liar . His answers were mostly honest but there was a lot of lip service. Minutes ago he did reiterate he is going for speed , skill and grit. He sure hinted around making room available . He came out and said this year Markstrom COrrado and Clendenning are all NHL ready players this year. He was very impressed with JV . Grenier was most improved and ready to jump , he also said Shink and Gaunce were ready. That's a lost of spots to open up
- VANTEL

I've been out of the loop for a while but if he stated publicly that all of those players were NHL ready then he'd only be saying it to boost their confidence and let them know that spots are available for the guys that show him they're ready. For a young guy that's plenty to go for motivation before camp and a heck of a lot more motivation than on teams whose rosters are pretty much already set for next season.

There's no way he'd actually bring all those guys up even if he could, unless his intention was to transform this team into a bottom feeder. Which might be their desired trajectory at this point for all I know. Rogers would be half full most nights though...for years.

Nope butI would be pretty surprised if they ever drop below 70 points in a season before their contracts expire
- WhiteLie

Again by those two producing and no one else helping we will draft 15-30 every year they are here