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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:09 PM ET
There are compliance buy outs x2

Unlimited regular buyouts

- VANTEL


And compliance buy outs were expired last summer regardless of if a team used them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:09 PM ET
And compliance buy outs were expired last summer regardless of if a team used them.
- belcherbd

Yes
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:11 PM ET
I could possibly see #51, if we decide to go that route. Hard part is, there is a few free agent options out there as well.

I just saw Darren Dreger tweet that Buffalo is pushing for a Cam Talbot trade at the moment (along with CGY,FLA,EDM,and DAL). I think it would be best for the Canucks to wait out this little fiasco and see what they can really value their young goaltenders in the market.

Plus, whoever loses out on Talbot should be sure quick to give y'all a call.

- Sabre_Tooth

If talbot does get that $16 from edm, lack will get a late first early 2nd for sure. similar stats and Talbot had the(by a massive margin) better team.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:12 PM ET
It is a concern. In every interview Benning says we will get bigger grittier faster and more skilled. It is not only one thing .
- VANTEL


Interesting that while Benning has preached size and grit, the only player he has acquired of that ilk outside of the draft has been Dorsett.

Clendenning, Baertschi, Vey, Vrbata don't fit that mold.

edit. Pedan would fit the mold I guess.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
If talbot does get that $16 from edm, lack will get a late first early 2nd for sure. similar stats and Talbot had the(by a massive margin) better team.
- Retinalz

If you are not getting 31-35 with Lack it will be Markstrom going.

Lack will be packaged for a good deal
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
Beiksa has two fights this year?
- VANTEL


The Bieksa love didn't start this year.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
It is a concern. In every interview Benning says we will get bigger grittier faster and more skilled. It is not only one thing .
- VANTEL


That is literally everything.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
Interesting that while Benning has preached size and grit, the only player he has acquired of that ilk outside of the draft has been Dorsett.

Clendenning, Baertschi, Vey, Vrbata don't fit that mold.

edit. Pedan would fit the mold I guess.

- belcherbd

Bennings eyes were opened in the playoffs last year. All those trades were prior
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:15 PM ET
Maybe I'm biased, but you Canuck fans sure don't give Miller enough credit. Yea it was unfortunate he went down with an injury late, but for watching him for years in Buffalo, you have one of the hardest working team player goalies in the league! The fight just doesn't stop in that guy.

P.S. I wouldn't mind taking Lack from you guys, but with the goalie market how it is right now I've got no clue what GMTM is deciding to do.

- Sabre_Tooth

This base is highly divided when it comes to Miller. Its not all of us. Miller issue is battle between a bunch of us regular posters.
I'm Jeb Bush and I approved this message.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
If talbot does get that $16 from edm, lack will get a late first early 2nd for sure. similar stats and Talbot had the(by a massive margin) better team.
- Retinalz


The difference being that NYR don't need to trade Talbot but Van needs to trade a goalie.

If lack gets a late first early 2nd I doubt many will be upset, unfortunately it is far from guaranteed in a supposedly deep draft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
The Bieksa love didn't start this year.
- AlexF

I'm old school

Fire AV

Trade Bieksa

Sit Luongo

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
That is literally everything.
- AlexF

Except Horvat and Tanev
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
This base is highly divided when it comes to Miller. Its not all of us. Miller issue is battle between a bunch of us regular posters.
I'm Jeb Bush and I approved this message.

- thundachunk

Most people are using this logic. Same stats go with the younger cheaper.

There is no market for Miller so I have settled in and accepted RM
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
This base is highly divided when it comes to Miller. Its not all of us. Miller issue is battle between a bunch of us regular posters.
I'm Jeb Bush and I approved this message.

- thundachunk

Most people are using this logic. Same stats go with the younger cheaper.

There is no market for Miller so I have settled in and accepted RM
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:19 PM ET
Ferland destroyed the Canucks
- VANTEL

I know its moot but if Kassian wasn't hurt I think we see a very different outcome concerning Ferklund.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:21 PM ET
I know its moot but if Kassian wasn't hurt I think we see a very different outcome concerning Ferklund.
- thundachunk

Can't rely on a guy injured and healthy scratched that many games
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
Most people are using this logic. Same stats go with the younger cheaper.

There is no market for Miller so I have settled in and accepted RM

- VANTEL

2 more years is such a short window the Miller deal is a total non issue for me. He is a great goalie.

I think everyone is so focused on what to do with Eddie they are over looking Markstroms new value. I wouldn't be surprised if our goalie situation remained the same minus markstrom. Eddie will get his money and Miller will move on in 2 years time. next season we will see Miller as a constant starter and the year after he will be back up.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:24 PM ET
Can't rely on a guy injured and healthy scratched that many games
- VANTEL

Very true.
Kassian> Lucic
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
Very true.
Kassian> Lucic

- thundachunk

SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:29 PM ET
Maybe I'm biased, but you Canuck fans sure don't give Miller enough credit. Yea it was unfortunate he went down with an injury late, but for watching him for years in Buffalo, you have one of the hardest working team player goalies in the league! The fight just doesn't stop in that guy.

P.S. I wouldn't mind taking Lack from you guys, but with the goalie market how it is right now I've got no clue what GMTM is deciding to do.

- Sabre_Tooth


Its not that we're saying he's bad. Its that for what our team is, which is a rebuild in process. Miller is not a goalie we need to nor want because he has a high cap hit and is a veteran who is most likely looking to make the playoffs and fight for a stanley cup. Canucks as a team is not built for such a thing especially with our old core that every team in the league seems to have figured out. Ex Sedins play the board and pass to the slot for the tip in goal.

Canucks are done until the Sedins retire
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
If TO isn't #1 then this list need to come with *. As in *"fanbase" is defined as being 60 years old or older and a hockey fan throughout.

Really don't think anyone under 60 years old is reveling in those 13 cup wins, or the one from '67, unless you're Sensnucksnocup of course.

- AlexF

Fixed.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
Has Benning stated anywhere what his targeted goal is for next season (playoffs, re-set, re-build, etc)?
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
Has Benning stated anywhere what his targeted goal is for next season (playoffs, re-set, re-build, etc)?
- AlexF


Nope
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
Has Benning stated anywhere what his targeted goal is for next season (playoffs, re-set, re-build, etc)?
- AlexF

Playoffs.
Ownership wants playoffs.
Every year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
Has Benning stated anywhere what his targeted goal is for next season (playoffs, re-set, re-build, etc)?
- AlexF

His interviews are all over the map.

He uses we want to be competitive a lot .

He wants to get bigger younger faster stronger and more skilled but has not asked anyone to waive

He wants more draft picks but they haven't discussed trades yet
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