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stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
Anderson to the Sharks makes a lot of sense, Blues makse a lot of sense too. I dont think Allen and Elliott tandem is going to get them anywhere.
- DDM-Coga


Anderson doesn't fit right now with the Blues. He fits perfectly as a 2016 deadline deal.

The Blues Cap situation isn't great. It looks great now but as soon as you add Tank at his new price and Allen at an upped price plus a need to sign two D and a few forwards, it's not great. Sure you could trade Oshie and Berglund for picks to open up the cap so it's possible but I see the Blues getting Anderson at the deadline, not this summer. My early Ek rumor for the trade deadline, lol.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
Wow...really? Seeing as how Sharp's cap is practically 6 million a year, I don't think a ton of teams will be interested. Firmly believing teams know what Chicago is up against, they will not get full value for him IMO.
- PhilMcCracken



This is Stanley Negotiating 101.

Hey, I'm guessing 6-8, maybe 8-10 teams have called about Sharp. And I DO know that Florida offered a lot for a package that he headlined back in February. A LOT.

So, Stanley's starting the bidding high. It's the smart play.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
B.D. Gallof
‏@BDGallof
Per NHL source, CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp #isles

- Dunnhawkey

Those are all "ors" and not "ands". The Hawks are looking for a 1st, or A level prospect or a top six forward. The Hawks will start high and will be happy with the cap savings and whatever else they can get.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
Those f'n geniuises in Toronto don't know what fair value is. Before they acquire a Sharp, they need to dump some large piles of excrement they already own.
- RickJ


Per NHL source, CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp #isles



John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Anderson doesn't fit right now with the Blues. He fits perfectly as a 2016 deadline deal.

The Blues Cap situation isn't great. It looks great now but as soon as you add Tank at his new price and Allen at an upped price plus a need to sign two D and a few forwards, it's not great. Sure you could trade Oshie and Berglund for picks to open up the cap so it's possible but I see the Blues getting Anderson at the deadline, not this summer. My early Ek rumor for the trade deadline, lol.

- stljam


He is highly underrated, IMO, and lights out in the playoffs.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Wow...really? Seeing as how Sharp's cap is practically 6 million a year, I don't think a ton of teams will be interested. Firmly believing teams know what Chicago is up against, they will not get full value for him IMO.
- PhilMcCracken


People keep saying this, but its a false narrative. That is the case only if 1 team is interested. If two or more teams are interested, than the bid is against each other, not with the Hawks.

I believe more than one team is interested in both Sharp and Crawford, that is why I think they both will get moved.

Your scenario works more for the Bickell situation.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Those are all "ors" and not "ands". The Hawks are looking for a 1st, or A level prospect or a top six forward. The Hawks will start high and will be happy with the cap savings and whatever else they can get.
- paulr



yup
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Those are all "ors" and not "ands". The Hawks are looking for a 1st, or A level prospect or a top six forward. The Hawks will start high and will be happy with the cap savings and whatever else they can get.
- paulr


If this is true, it already makes more sense.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Yeah, but Kane has three rings, a Conn Smyth, among the league elite, makes eight figures, arguably the best hands in the game today and backs his poop up.

What's exactly has Eichel done by comparison?... NOTHING!

- As_I_See_It

I don't believe Kane had all those things before he came into the league either...
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Got a question, if indeed Sharp is dealt to the Caps and Tom Wilson happens to be 1 of the pieces coming back this way,why are some assuming that Shaw or Desi will be gone? First I would think that the Hawks would want to try to keep Kruger,Desi and Shaw all together. Secondly, Tom Wilson is a young kid which was a first round pick ,you're not talking about a club foot like John Scott here, that kid has the potential to grow into a good Hardnosed second or third line winger who potentially could score 25 a year and beat your ass if the situation arises, wouldbe a good net and corner guy.Whatbetter scenario than tobe with this coaching staff to progress his game to the next level.
You oldies like me remember the last time we got a young rawboned kid from Boston in 1981 how that worked out.not saying Wilson would score 50 ,but he would definitely add an element to the Hawks game,plus the kid CAN play.
I am thinking Kyle Baun will need time to develope and youcannever have too many guys on your team witha little size thatcan also play. We will see???

- wonthecup10


The GM should immediately be fired if he swapped Wilson for Sharp.... Wilson is going to be a beast.....
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
This is Stanley Negotiating 101.

Hey, I'm guessing 6-8, maybe 8-10 teams have called about Sharp. And I DO know that Florida offered a lot for a package that he headlined back in February. A LOT.

So, Stanley's starting the bidding high. It's the smart play.

- John Jaeckel


Let's make a friendly wager. I bet he doesn't even pull in a first or A level prospect. Teams will not be doing Chicago any favours.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'll also add this............and I expect to get some heat from it.

Crawford's F bomb again yesterday after being told to keep it clean, can't help matters. Guy beats to his own drum, but given that and his "accident" at a concert earlier this year........starts to develop a pattern. Those are off ice concerns and with a president who is VERY imagine conscience.........something to think about.

On the ice, Crawford has NO doubt PROVED what an asset he his. However, can this organization justify keeping him and dealing an additional 1-2 guys on top of Bickell and Sharp IF the cap comes in lower then anticipated? Especially if they believe in Darling and Raanta? There lies the debate that no doubt will be going on inside 1901 w Madison. Especially since 50s stock will NEVER be higher then it is RIGHT now.

- SteveRain


Hey Steve...yup CC couldn't help himself - you could just see McD (the image maker) cringe when he did it...still love the kid and he's played great but...
The cap could be around 68-69 couldn't it I remember seeing something where the players have to sign off on a 5% escrow increase or something of that nature? Someone help me out here...for it to escalate up to 71 and the players may be hesitant to do that...

Wouldn't have a problem if they brought back Nemo at a low deal to pair with Darls...don't get me wrong I think Craw has been stellar, but the hard cap is going to dictate what happens here.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
I know BD, good guy.

But either his source or Bowman is smoking crack.

- John Jaeckel


He just repeated like you and I do at times...
BD doesn't believe it either.

Premise for source is becasue it is a bad UFA mkt...But top 6 forwards on ELC's are golden...Just ask Saad.
darkman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gilberts, IL
Joined: 06.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
I don't believe Kane had all those things before he came into the league either...
- jochfr


Can't argue with that!
Maggie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 03.06.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'll also add this............and I expect to get some heat from it.

Crawford's F bomb again yesterday after being told to keep it clean, can't help matters. Guy beats to his own drum, but given that and his "accident" at a concert earlier this year........starts to develop a pattern. Those are off ice concerns and with a president who is VERY imagine conscience.........something to think about.

On the ice, Crawford has NO doubt PROVED what an asset he his. However, can this organization justify keeping him and dealing an additional 1-2 guys on top of Bickell and Sharp IF the cap comes in lower then anticipated? Especially if they believe in Darling and Raanta? There lies the debate that no doubt will be going on inside 1901 w Madison. Especially since 50s stock will NEVER be higher then it is RIGHT now.

- SteveRain


First paragraph, right on
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
If this is true, it already makes more sense.
- deadpoulet

If the Hawks were asking for all that all 29 GMs wouldn't even bother getting into a discussion for Sharp. Common sense says Bowman will start high but not anywhere near that high, or he is high.
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
People keep saying this, but its a false narrative. That is the case only if 1 team is interested. If two or more teams are interested, than the bid is against each other, not with the Hawks.

I believe more than one team is interested in both Sharp and Crawford, that is why I think they both will get moved.

Your scenario works more for the Bickell situation.

- vabeachbear


Multiple teams can be interested...sure. HIGHLY doubt they are throwing nice packages Chicago's way.....
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
This is Stanley Negotiating 101.

Hey, I'm guessing 6-8, maybe 8-10 teams have called about Sharp. And I DO know that Florida offered a lot for a package that he headlined back in February. A LOT.

So, Stanley's starting the bidding high. It's the smart play.

- John Jaeckel



Absolutely. Don't negotiate yourself down.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Those are all "ors" and not "ands". The Hawks are looking for a 1st, or A level prospect or a top six forward. The Hawks will start high and will be happy with the cap savings and whatever else they can get.
- paulr


Spot on Paul...why not ask for the moon and then get what you can with several suitors out there. See if a couple of teams are willing to engage and go from there.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Anderson doesn't fit right now with the Blues. He fits perfectly as a 2016 deadline deal.

The Blues Cap situation isn't great. It looks great now but as soon as you add Tank at his new price and Allen at an upped price plus a need to sign two D and a few forwards, it's not great. Sure you could trade Oshie and Berglund for picks to open up the cap so it's possible but I see the Blues getting Anderson at the deadline, not this summer. My early Ek rumor for the trade deadline, lol.

- stljam


If you could move Elliot out to a team that misses out on Cam Talbot (Oilers or Sabres) bring in Anderson in stead, a bit of goalie shuffle and probably a bit unrealistic, but I think Anderson Allen would be a stronger tandem.

Plus how great would it be for those 2 to be traded for one another again
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
New front office in Toronto won't be victims in the deals like the old front office in Toronto was.
- jfkst1

Shanaban and his entourage are on the clock now. I hope they can get this team on the right track because its good for the NHL. They had just better keep those idiots on the MLSE board and Larry Tannenbaum locked in a cage for about 5 years.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Multiple teams can be interested...sure. HIGHLY doubt they are throwing nice packages Chicago's way.....
- PhilMcCracken



Well those players have value. The Hawks "scraps" haven't stopped them from collecting Cups.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
McDavid=Gretzky

Eichel=Kesler
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Hey Steve...yup CC couldn't help himself - you could just see McD (the image maker) cringe when he did it...still love the kid and he's played great but...
The cap could be around 68-69 couldn't it I remember seeing something where the players have to sign off on a 5% escrow increase or something of that nature? Someone help me out here...for it to escalate up to 71 and the players may be hesitant to do that...

Wouldn't have a problem if they brought back Nemo at a low deal to pair with Darls...don't get me wrong I think Craw has been stellar, but the hard cap is going to dictate what happens here.

- DK002


Oh yeah, I saw it and then watched Crawford put his head down and veer right to his teammates not looking back.

You are correct. Escalator is what Bettman is ASSUMING will be approved to get cap up to 71 million. Bad Canadian dollar has kept the growth pretty small on HRR.

I posted this yesterday but I firmly believe Crawford is the contingency plan. They deal him, they can extend Seabrook and then start promoting a core of Sadd, Kane, Toews, Hossa, Seabrook, Keith, and Hammer. with fill in parts below.

These next few weeks are really going to shape how quickly this team can contend OR stay in contention for another cup. Lots of LARGE decisions facing Stanley. Similar to 2010 but of course.....nobody wants to paint it that way
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Let's make a friendly wager. I bet he doesn't even pull in a first or A level prospect. Teams will not be doing Chicago any favours.
- PhilMcCracken


One or the other is a possibility - getting both is unlikely.
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