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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
I disagree. If Martin signs a contract specifying a list of teams he would accept a trade to, then JR has every right to trade him.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Why would he do that? He's got young kids, he's not going to sign a contract that might just pack him up again.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
I disagree. If Martin signs a contract specifying a list of teams he would accept a trade to, then JR has every right to trade him.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

You can do it....but agents take note when you trade a player same year as when they sign. They will inform their other clients of what the current GM is guilty of. Trade in year 3 of 4 is more acceptable. You will probably see a ntc in first couple years and it may change to a modified thereafter. That being said if its one time and you're being offered a good package...I say do it.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
I disagree. If Martin signs a contract specifying a list of teams he would accept a trade to, then JR has every right to trade him.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

of course he can/has every right to.

he never would nor should he. agents, players, and teams take note of that. if you think we struggle to attract talent now, imagine how much we would struggle if we had that reputation.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Pens have 10.9 million dedicated to Kuni, Dupes and Scuds. I dont think any of them should be on the roster at this point. but can't change that.

IMO there are 2 holes in Malkins line needing to be filled. Kuni can't last a whole season in that role anymore. So I dont think he is a good plan B option. Say they get Semin or a comparable player and its a disaster and BB does what he does. 2nd line is garbage again. I think 71 is on a jet to Moscow if Comeau is on his line again. Its 2 wingers and an entire 3rd line needing to be replaced. Unless you can depart from DP your F will be a slight upgrade over Comeau.

- sammy87


i know it will sting, but id be willing to move DP in the right deal. hes not in the Maatta untouchable realm for me. and i agree with your premise. its not ideal. i think comeau or kunitz can be passable on malkins line, provided the other guy is quality.

if its BB, or semin and he doesnt pan out, yeah, comeau or a decrepit kunitz on the other side will be very bad.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
Pens have 10.9 million dedicated to Kuni, Dupes and Scuds. I dont think any of them should be on the roster at this point. but can't change that.

IMO there are 2 holes in Malkins line needing to be filled. Kuni can't last a whole season in that role anymore. So I dont think he is a good plan B option. Say they get Semin or a comparable player and its a disaster and BB does what he does. 2nd line is garbage again. I think 71 is on a jet to Moscow if Comeau is on his line again. Its 2 wingers and an entire 3rd line needing to be replaced. Unless you can depart from DP your F will be a slight upgrade over Comeau.

- sammy87


That's why it might be a good idea to try to get a guy like Eaves for $1.1M as a fill-in instead of Comeau. If those things occur, Eaves can fill in. He has some speed and can add scoring to 3rd/4th line if there are no injuries. He also can play PK or on 2nd PP if needed.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
role
noun

the function assumed or part played by a person or thing in a particular situation.
"she greeted us all in her various roles of mother, friend, and daughter"

*****************

roll
verb

move or cause to move in a particular direction by turning over and over on an axis.

"the bottle rolled down the table"

- YouMeAndDupuis9


At least give me some ointment if you're gonna burn me that badly. It hurts.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:30 AM ET
You are missing the point champ. Is it normal for a professional athlete to have a stroke at the age of 27? I think the person I responded to saw the light to where I was going. You on the other hand, don't.
- Oneonta Penguin

Letang had a stroke because of a previously undetected anomaly in his heart. It could happen to anyone, from any walk of life. It has been detected and he could have surgery to repair it but that will put him on the shelf for 12-18 months and he wants to wait until after his career is over. Closely monitored he has almost zero chance of anything happining again and his life and health are not in any jeopardy.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:35 AM ET
Does it rain on you everyday?
- usethe1-2-2

I know I wish he didn't spend all day commenting. It's so annoying having to skip ALL of his stupid comments. Why does he even care about this team if he hates it so much? Then again if all I ever did was try and ruin other people's day by pi$$ing on their team I would hate myself too.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:30 AM ET
You are missing the point champ. Is it normal for a professional athlete to have a stroke at the age of 27? I think the person I responded to saw the light to where I was going. You on the other hand, don't.
- Oneonta Penguin


I understand you better than you think.

No it is not normal for anyone that age to suffer a stroke be it an athlete or an average person. You continually try to drive home the point Letang is accident prone and use that as the number one reason. That was your point, champ.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:48 AM ET
How is that killing his development? He'd be playing with Cole or Lovejoy, getting 12+ minutes a night and giving him a chance to get away from other teams top forwards. He also won't stay there and injuries are bound to happen. Starting Pouliot on the bottom pairing to get his feet wet really isn't a bad idea.

I don't think you're allowed to call someone's idea horrible when you think Jackman is a top 4 defenseman

- drummer829


Where did he play this season? Why shouldn't he start there? Give him everything he can handle & see how he goes. Maatta got his chance through injuries & look at how he went, you never know the Pens might be a production line for developing D!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:28 AM ET
Latest from Vegas:

Frolik - 9/2
Semin - 12/1 hearing his price will soon be blowing right out (just like his form)
Skinner - 13/1 coming in - more talk to come e3
Eberle - 8/1 dark horse I'm hearing rattlings
Beleskey - 40/1 pricing himself out
Sharp - 4/1 JR high on him but higher on cocaine from Stoll (oops cats out of the...)
Drouin - 19/1
Rychel - 12/1
Yak - 30/1 still interest
Okposo - 80/1
Other 5/2 rumblings about a few low profile players but Analytics is preventing any trigger being pulled.

1/2 tote for a 'major' deal before end of draft day 1 - keep your eye on the moon the sun will burn (frank) out of your retina!

More to come.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:09 AM ET
Latest from Vegas:

Frolik - 9/2
Semin - 12/1 hearing his price will soon be blowing right out (just like his form)
Skinner - 13/1 coming in - more talk to come e3
Eberle - 8/1 dark horse I'm hearing rattlings
Beleskey - 40/1 pricing himself out
Sharp - 4/1 JR high on him but higher on cocaine from Stoll (oops cats out of the...)
Drouin - 19/1
Rychel - 12/1
Yak - 30/1 still interest
Okposo - 80/1
Other 5/2 rumblings about a few low profile players but Analytics is preventing any trigger being pulled.

1/2 tote for a 'major' deal before end of draft day 1 - keep your eye on the moon the sun will burn (frank) out of your retina!

More to come.

- Aussiepenguin


Put 5 on tlusty and boedker and 10 on franson. I want 20 on JR making a stupid trade again and hurting the pens
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:23 AM ET
TASS reports Sergei Plotnikov will sign with the #Penguins #KHL #NHL
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Jun 24 @ 7:26 AM ET
I dont fully believe the story. Seems like a convenient excuse. Kinda like Kuni's iron deficiency.
- sammy87


And just like Malkin's ankle injury, right ? In your mind they are all made up ?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 7:27 AM ET
TASS reports Sergei Plotnikov will sign with the #Penguins #KHL #NHL
- nh4442


He could be a solid depth forward. Doubt he can be expected to be anything more.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:47 AM ET
Put 5 on tlusty and boedker and 10 on franson. I want 20 on JR making a stupid trade again and hurting the pens
- nh4442


Sorry - your 20 HB$ cannot be taken as the 'stupid trade' tote was closed.

Although there is a 3/1 price on 'never thought he could or would be THAT (frank)IN stupid' tote.

90/1 - great trade
1000/1 - never thought he could pull that off
2500000/1 - the other GM didn't know what hit him trade.

10 HB$ on 'other' taken. No bets on D.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 24 @ 7:49 AM ET
If we can shed one of our bad contracts (kunitz,scuds,spalling), j wouldn't mind sharp at all. If you look at what these other guys are going to get, i would
rather have a proven player in Sharp. I also think Sharp's numbers were down due to the emergence of saad and the other young kids over there. His age doesn't scare me. There are other serviceable players in the nhl that aren't spring chickens and still bring a lot to their teams. I would take Sharp all day over bums like Semin. Chi isn't going to get the ransom that they're asking for either as all the other teams have the leverage. Stay calm people...
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:49 AM ET
Sorry - your 20 HB$ cannot be taken as the 'stupid trade' tote was closed.

Although there is a 3/1 price on 'never thought he could or would be THAT (frank)IN stupid' tote.

90/1 - great trade
1000/1 - never thought he could pull that off
2500000/1 - the other GM didn't know what hit him trade.

15 HB$ on 'other' taken.

- Aussiepenguin


How much will I need to bet for the "Doesn't matter what the trade is, someone on HB is gonna complain all season about it" to get a payout?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:50 AM ET
Sorry - your 20 HB$ cannot be taken as the 'stupid trade' tote was closed.

Although there is a 3/1 price on 'never thought he could or would be THAT (frank)IN stupid' tote.

90/1 - great trade
1000/1 - never thought he could pull that off
2500000/1 - the other GM didn't know what hit him trade.

10 HB$ on 'other' taken. No bets on D.

- Aussiepenguin
ok switch me to that 3/1 tote
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 7:52 AM ET
If we can shed one of our bad contracts (kunitz,scuds,spalling), j wouldn't mind sharp at all. If you look at what these other guys are going to get, i would
rather have a proven player in Sharp. I also think Sharp's numbers were down due to the emergence of saad and the other young kids over there. His age doesn't scare me. There are other serviceable players in the nhl that aren't spring chickens and still bring a lot to their teams. I would take Sharp all day over bums like Semin. Chi isn't going to get the ransom that they're asking for either as all the other teams have the leverage. Stay calm people...

- joescullz


I don't really want Sharp at all. I don't think he is any more valuable than Kunitz.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:52 AM ET
If we can shed one of our bad contracts (kunitz,scuds,spalling), j wouldn't mind sharp at all. If you look at what these other guys are going to get, i would
rather have a proven player in Sharp. I also think Sharp's numbers were down due to the emergence of saad and the other young kids over there. His age doesn't scare me. There are other serviceable players in the nhl that aren't spring chickens and still bring a lot to their teams. I would take Sharp all day over bums like Semin. Chi isn't going to get the ransom that they're asking for either as all the other teams have the leverage. Stay calm people...

- joescullz


Anything that costs us our future shouldn't be considered especially where there are question marks. Just because the FA market is crap doesn't mean we have to participate in the crap shoot. There are other avenues we should take. This time next year things will be a lot better but if we overindulge now next year won't be a possibility.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:53 AM ET
He could be a solid depth forward. Doubt he can be expected to be anything more.
- jfkst1


I know nothing about this guy and won't pretend to. According to eliteprospects he can play both wings and is a two way power forward with a good shot. Sounds basically like what I wanted Tikhinov to be but way more physical and can come in on an ELC. Sounds like the perfect depth guy with enough offensive potential to sniff the second line.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:54 AM ET
ok switch me to that 3/1 tote
- nh4442


We'll call that tote 'frank'! There's been quite a lot of interest in that!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:57 AM ET
If we can shed one of our bad contracts (kunitz,scuds,spalling), j wouldn't mind sharp at all. If you look at what these other guys are going to get, i would
rather have a proven player in Sharp. I also think Sharp's numbers were down due to the emergence of saad and the other young kids over there. His age doesn't scare me. There are other serviceable players in the nhl that aren't spring chickens and still bring a lot to their teams. I would take Sharp all day over bums like Semin. Chi isn't going to get the ransom that they're asking for either as all the other teams have the leverage. Stay calm people...

- joescullz



How about we just shed Scuds... maybe Spaling (hes still not a bad thing, just 500K or so overpayed), and call it a day?


Is JR so against calling up some cap floor teams and offering them Scuds and one of our 2016 3rds for one of their 5th round (hell, i'll take a 6th or 7th round) picks in whatever year just to dump him? I know we suck at gaining picks, but I think this usage is more than worth it.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:58 AM ET
How much will I need to bet for the "Doesn't matter what the trade is, someone on HB is gonna complain all season about it" to get a payout?
- Guile


You'll have to see Oneonta about those odds.
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