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Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
Saw this guy team and just had to post it. It is not mine and he has an all Russian 2nd line. It is not what you would expect.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/5879

- mmonana120



Needs about another 2.5 mil in the defense, 1 for Franson, and up to 1.5 for Cole. He kept cap space which is good... and damn that is a scary 3rd line.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
Saw this guy team and just had to post it. It is not mine and he has an all Russian 2nd line. It is not what you would expect.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/5879

- mmonana120


I especially like the fact that if the Russian kids games don't translate.... Perron and Dupes are available to jump up a line. Don't think that gets us Oshie. And doubt Winnik is coming back but other than that.... solid.

EDIT: Above all the greatest positive on this lineups is that Craig Adams isn't penciled in at 13th forward!

EDIT EDIT: Can I get an AMEN?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
That Oshie trade would be a steal. I definitely think Franson will cost more. Same with Soderberg, but the money would be there. That would be a great offseason.
- jfkst1


It's actually possible if the Blues are serious about moving Pat and/or David. With the potential signings of two top 9 KHL defectors, I'd trade Sutter, Bennett, and Harrington for Oshie in a hear beat.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:13 PM ET
I especially like the fact that if the Russian kids games don't translate.... Perron and Dupes are available to jump up a line. Don't think that gets us Oshie. And doubt Winnik is coming back but other than that.... solid.
- stowerkraut



At the cap space he has... Keep Spaling to center the 4th line.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:15 PM ET
It's actually possible if the Blues are serious about moving Pat and/or David. With the potential signings of two top 9 KHL defectors, I'd trade Sutter, Bennett, and Harrington for Oshie in a hear beat.
- Victoro311


Not that those players have been lights out... don't you think thats a bit much for an underwhelming Oshie?
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
Needs about another 2.5 mil in the defense, 1 for Franson, and up to 1.5 for Cole. He kept cap space which is good... and damn that is a scary 3rd line.
- Guile




Agreed. That may be the best semi real roster posted yet. That team would be a legit contender. Even if can't get Oshie, have Perron for Sids wing and can make trade at deadline if need another wing.

Anyone have a scout report on Tikonov, don't know much about him.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
It's actually possible if the Blues are serious about moving Pat and/or David. With the potential signings of two top 9 KHL defectors, I'd trade Sutter, Bennett, and Harrington for Oshie in a hear beat.
- Victoro311


How about that for Skinner instead please
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
Not that those players have been lights out... don't you think thats a bit much for an underwhelming Oshie?
- nelson911


Yeah I think we could get him without Sutter + BB/Harrington. Maybe add one of our thirds to sweeten the deal.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
Yeah I think we could get him without Sutter + BB/Harrington. Maybe add one of our thirds to sweeten the deal.
- BourbonCounty


Well then obviously you make that trade. Who'd you rather move between Beau and Harrington? There's pluses and minuses for both.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
See that's what I'm saying. Like let him touch American soil before he's hailed as anything great. Yeesh.
- Panthers88


You obviously haven't seen the Wingers they have given Malkin in the past.. aging Fedetenko, Max Talbot, Blake Comeau, Nick Spaling... no one is hailing him as anything great, but it could work out extremely well, there is no reason not to be optimistic with a low risk, high reward move such as this.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
It's actually possible if the Blues are serious about moving Pat and/or David. With the potential signings of two top 9 KHL defectors, I'd trade Sutter, Bennett, and Harrington for Oshie in a hear beat.
- Victoro311


I just can't see STL biting on that... they are deep with relatively productive centers and young dmen. I see them needing goaltending (especially after that Minny series loss) and a stud 1C (which is why many link Geno here).... IMO naturally
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
Not that those players have been lights out... don't you think thats a bit much for an underwhelming Oshie?
- nelson911


Oshie isn't a superstar that some people make him out to be, but that is very underwhelming return for him. A return that makes no sense for STL at all.

Bennett has no value right now; STL needs defensemen ready to play and many here don't think Harrington is ready to be among the top six here, on a team that is worse defensively and then there is our whipping boy. There is zero reason for STL to make that deal.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
How about that for Skinner instead please
- BINGO!


I like Oshie way more than Skinner.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
Players aren't always tied to previous performances, but TJ Oshie has been invisible for his playoff career.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Oshie isn't a superstar that some people make him out to be, but that is very underwhelming return for him. A return that makes no sense for STL at all.
- Oneonta Penguin


Agreed. Oshie is a legit all-around solid top 6 forward in his prime on a good contract. STL would have to love Suckturd and have already traded at least Backes and probably Berglund/Lehtera to make this deal.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
How about that for Skinner instead please
- BINGO!



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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
I like Oshie way more than Skinner.
- jfkst1


I know you do.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Oshie isn't a superstar that some people make him out to be, but that is very underwhelming return for him. A return that makes no sense for STL at all.
- Oneonta Penguin

Yea probably.... but it doesn't mean the Pens can't split that up and get a better return for themselves than just him.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yeah I think we could get him without Sutter + BB/Harrington. Maybe add one of our thirds to sweeten the deal.
- BourbonCounty


A 3rd round pick doesn't sweeten any deal for a legit top 6 forward...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Oshie isn't a superstar that some people make him out to be, but that is very underwhelming return for him. A return that makes no sense for STL at all.
- Oneonta Penguin


It hinges on them wanting to move one of their current centers for it to make sense and even then you're right it's underwhelming. That's why I said I'd do it in a heart beat.
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:30 PM ET
From Pens Labyrith,

"Plotkinov is 6’2 and weighs 200 lbs. He plays a pretty tough game and uses his size effectively, and is known for his play around the net. From all of the scouting reports I can find, he’s essentially a Russian version of Patric Hornqvist that’s a bit more punishing away from the net. Who wouldn’t be excited about that?"

Please let that be accurate!
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Agreed. Oshie is a legit all-around solid top 6 forward in his prime on a good contract. STL would have to love Suckturd and have already traded at least Backes and probably Berglund/Lehtera to make this deal.
- jfkst1


STL has an abundance of centers. Letera is a ugh after this year, but played very well last year ... Berg is better than Sutter and isn't a pending ufa (albeit has an equally unappealing cap hit). If Backes is moved, its probably for defensive help I'd imagine and Sutter doesn't replace Backes.

That idea doesn't fit STL, but hey, if they are dumb enough to fall for it, I'd pull the trigger quickly.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
STL has an abundance of centers. Letera is a ugh after this year, but played very well last year ... Berg is better than Sutter and isn't a pending ufa (albeit has an equally unappealing cap hit). If Backes is moved, its probably for defensive help I'd imagine and Sutter doesn't replace Backes.

That idea doesn't fit STL, but hey, if they are dumb enough to fall for it, I'd pull the trigger quickly.

- Oneonta Penguin


They were dumb enough to trade Cold for Bortuzo and Perron for Magnus Paijarvi.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
They were dumb enough to trade Cold for Bortuzo and Perron for Magnus Paijarvi.
- Victoro311



Perron was nothing more than a salary dump they had to make. They got a second round pick too in that deal. It's not like Perron has done anything of note since.

A lot of people here were female doging about Pittsburgh trading Borts for Cole due to losing all the grit on the blueline. At the time, it wasn't thought of as a bad deal for STL. Now, with the way Cole looked for us, it looks bad.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
From Pens Labyrith,

"Plotkinov is 6’2 and weighs 200 lbs. He plays a pretty tough game and uses his size effectively, and is known for his play around the net. From all of the scouting reports I can find, he’s essentially a Russian version of Patric Hornqvist that’s a bit more punishing away from the net. Who wouldn’t be excited about that?"

Please let that be accurate!

- mmonana120

As I said previously: another Hörnqvist/Kunitz type. His goals seem to be around the cage pretty often.
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